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  1. It is stated in many references that the body converts w3 into EPA/DHA
    "inefficiently" but they never say how efficient the conversion is.
    Can any one lead me to some answers?
    regards
    andrew vecsey
    http://geocities.com/andrewvecsey/omega3.html

  2. "andrewvecsey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It is stated in many references that the body converts w3 into EPA/DHA
    "inefficiently" but they never say how efficient the conversion is.
    Can any one lead me to some answers?
    regards
    andrew vecsey
    http://geocities.com/andrewvecsey/omega3.html

    From the first abstract (ALNA is alpha-linolenic acid, the omega-3 in flax
    oil; DHA is the longer chained omega-3 in fish oil):

    "Since the capacity of adult males to convert ALNA to DHA was either very
    low or absent, uptake of pre-formed DHA from the diet may be critical for
    maintaining adequate membrane DHA concentrations in these individuals."

    Young men, ALA to DHA, 0%. (first abstract)
    Young women, ALA to DHA, 9%. (second abstract)
    The third abstract considers the effect of other fatty acid intake on conversion.

    Br J Nutr 2002 Oct;88(4):355-64

    Eicosapentaenoic and docosapentaenoic acids are the principal products of
    alpha-linolenic acid metabolism in young men*.

    Burdge GC, Jones AE, Wootton SA.

    Institute of Human Nutrition, Level C, West Wing, Southampton General
    Hospital, Tremona Road, Southampton, SO16 6YD, UK.

    The capacity for conversion of alpha-linolenic acid (ALNA) to n-3 long-chain
    polyunsaturated fatty acids was investigated in young men. Emulsified
    [U-13C]ALNA was administered orally with a mixed meal to six subjects
    consuming their habitual diet. Approximately 33 % of administered [13C]ALNA
    was recovered as 13CO2 on breath over the first 24 h. [13C]ALNA was
    mobilised from enterocytes primarily as chylomicron triacylglycerol (TAG),
    while [13C]ALNA incorporation into plasma phosphatidylcholine (PC) occurred
    later, probably by the liver. The time scale of conversion of [13C]ALNA to
    eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosapentaenoic acid (DPA) suggested that
    the liver was the principal site of ALNA desaturation and elongation,
    although there was some indication of EPA and DPA synthesis by enterocytes.
    [13C]EPA and [13C]DPA concentrations were greater in plasma PC than TAG, and
    were present in the circulation for up to 7 and 14 d, respectively. There
    was no apparent 13C enrichment of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) in plasma PC,
    TAG or non-esterified fatty acids at any time point measured up to 21 d.
    This pattern of 13C n-3 fatty acid labelling suggests inhibition or
    restriction of DHA synthesis downstream of DPA. [13C]ALNA, [13C]EPA and
    [13C]DPA were incorporated into erythrocyte PC, but not
    phosphatidylethanolamine, suggesting uptake of intact plasma PC molecules
    from lipoproteins into erythrocyte membranes. Since the capacity of adult
    males to convert ALNA to DHA was either very low or absent, uptake of
    pre-formed DHA from the diet may be critical for maintaining adequate
    membrane DHA concentrations in these individuals.

    Br J Nutr 2002 Oct;88(4):411-421

    Conversion of alpha-linolenic acid to eicosapentaenoic, docosapentaenoic and
    docosahexaenoic acids in young women.

    Burdge GC, Wootton SA.

    Institute of Human Nutrition, University of Southampton, Southampton, UK.

    The extent to which women of reproductive age are able to convert the n-3
    fatty acid alpha-linolenic acid (ALNA) to eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA),
    docosapentaenoic acid (DPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) was investigated
    in vivo by measuring the concentrations of labelled fatty acids in plasma
    for 21 d following the ingestion of [U-13C]ALNA (700 mg). [13C]ALNA
    excursion was greatest in cholesteryl ester (CE) (224 (sem 70) &mgr;mol/l
    over 21 d) compared with triacylglycerol (9-fold), non-esterified fatty
    acids (37-fold) and phosphatidylcholine (PC, 7-fold). EPA excursion was
    similar in both PC (42 (sem 8) &mgr;mol/l) and CE (42 (sem 9) &mgr;mol/l)
    over 21 d. In contrast both [13C]DPA and [13C]DHA were detected
    predominately in PC (18 (sem 4) and 27 (sem 7) &mgr;mol/l over 21 d,
    respectively). Estimated net fractional ALNA inter-conversion was EPA 21 %,
    DPA 6 % and DHA 9 %. Approximately 22 % of administered [13C]ALNA was
    recovered as 13CO2 on breath over the first 24 h of the study. These results
    suggest differential partitioning of ALNA, EPA and DHA between plasma lipid
    classes, which may facilitate targeting of individual n-3 fatty acids to
    specific tissues. Comparison with previous studies suggests that women may
    possess a greater capacity for ALNA conversion than men. Such metabolic
    capacity may be important for meeting the demands of the fetus and neonate
    for DHA during pregnancy and lactation. Differences in DHA status between
    women both in the non-pregnant state and in pregnancy may reflect variations
    in metabolic capacity for DHA synthesis.

    Int J Vitam Nutr Res 1998;68(3):159-73

    Can adults adequately convert alpha-linolenic acid (18:3n-3) to
    eicosapentaenoic acid (20:5n-3) and docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3)?

    Gerster H.

    Vitamin Research Department, F. Hoffman-Roche Ltd, Basel, Switzerland.

    A diet including 2-3 portions of fatty fish per week, which corresponds to
    the intake of 1.25 g EPA (20:5n-3) + DHA (22:6n-3) per day, has been
    officially recommended on the basis of epidemiological findings showing a
    beneficial role of these n-3 long-chain PUFA in the prevention of
    cardiovascular and inflammatory diseases. The parent fatty acid ALA
    (18:3n-3), found in vegetable oils such as flaxseed or rapeseed oil, is used
    by the human organism partly as a source of energy, partly as a precursor of
    the metabolites, but the degree of conversion appears to be unreliable and
    restricted. More specifically, most studies in humans have shown that
    whereas a certain, though restricted, conversion of high doses of ALA to EPA
    occurs, conversion to DHA is severely restricted. The use of ALA labelled
    with radioisotopes suggested that with a background diet high in saturated
    fat conversion to long-chain metabolites is approximately 6% for EPA and
    3.8% for DHA. With a diet rich in n-6 PUFA, conversion is reduced by 40 to
    50%. It is thus reasonable to observe an n-6/n-3 PUFA ratio not exceeding
    4-6. Restricted conversion to DHA may be critical since evidence has been
    increasing that this long-chain metabolite has an autonomous function, e.g.
    in the brain, retina and spermatozoa where it is the most prominent fatty
    acid. In neonates deficiency is associated with visual impairment,
    abnormalities in the electroretinogram and delayed cognitive development. In
    adults the potential role of DHA in neurological function still needs to be
    investigated in depth. Regarding cardiovascular risk factors DHA has been
    shown to reduce triglyceride concentrations. These findings indicate that
    future attention will have to focus on the adequate provision of DHA which
    can reliably be achieved only with the supply of the preformed long-chain
    metabolite.

  3. "Larry Hoover" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "andrewvecsey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It is stated in many references that the body converts w3 into
    EPA/DHA
    "inefficiently" but they never say how efficient the conversion
    is.
    Can any one lead me to some answers?
    regards
    andrew vecsey
    http://geocities.com/andrewvecsey/omega3.html

    From the first abstract (ALNA is alpha-linolenic acid, the omega-3
    in flax
    oil; DHA is the longer chained omega-3 in fish oil):

    "Since the capacity of adult males to convert ALNA to DHA was
    either very
    low or absent, uptake of pre-formed DHA from the diet may be
    critical for
    maintaining adequate membrane DHA concentrations in these
    individuals."

    Young men, ALA to DHA, 0%. (first abstract)
    Young women, ALA to DHA, 9%. (second abstract)
    The third abstract considers the effect of other fatty acid intake
    on conversion.

    Br J Nutr 2002 Oct;88(4):355-64

    Eicosapentaenoic and docosapentaenoic acids are the principal
    products of
    alpha-linolenic acid metabolism in young men*.

    Burdge GC, Jones AE, Wootton SA.

    Institute of Human Nutrition, Level C, West Wing, Southampton
    General
    Hospital, Tremona Road, Southampton, SO16 6YD, UK.

    The capacity for conversion of alpha-linolenic acid (ALNA) to n-3
    long-chain
    polyunsaturated fatty acids was investigated in young men.
    Emulsified
    [U-13C]ALNA was administered orally with a mixed meal to six
    subjects
    consuming their habitual diet. Approximately 33 % of administered
    [13C]ALNA
    was recovered as 13CO2 on breath over the first 24 h. [13C]ALNA
    was
    mobilised from enterocytes primarily as chylomicron
    triacylglycerol (TAG),
    while [13C]ALNA incorporation into plasma phosphatidylcholine (PC)
    occurred
    later, probably by the liver. The time scale of conversion of
    [13C]ALNA to
    eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosapentaenoic acid (DPA)
    suggested that
    the liver was the principal site of ALNA desaturation and
    elongation,
    although there was some indication of EPA and DPA synthesis by
    enterocytes.
    [13C]EPA and [13C]DPA concentrations were greater in plasma PC
    than TAG, and
    were present in the circulation for up to 7 and 14 d,
    respectively. There
    was no apparent 13C enrichment of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) in
    plasma PC,
    TAG or non-esterified fatty acids at any time point measured up to
    21 d.
    This pattern of 13C n-3 fatty acid labelling suggests inhibition
    or
    restriction of DHA synthesis downstream of DPA. [13C]ALNA,
    [13C]EPA and
    [13C]DPA were incorporated into erythrocyte PC, but not
    phosphatidylethanolamine, suggesting uptake of intact plasma PC
    molecules
    from lipoproteins into erythrocyte membranes. Since the capacity
    of adult
    males to convert ALNA to DHA was either very low or absent, uptake
    of
    pre-formed DHA from the diet may be critical for maintaining
    adequate
    membrane DHA concentrations in these individuals.

    Br J Nutr 2002 Oct;88(4):411-421

    Conversion of alpha-linolenic acid to eicosapentaenoic,
    docosapentaenoic and
    docosahexaenoic acids in young women.

    Burdge GC, Wootton SA.

    Institute of Human Nutrition, University of Southampton,
    Southampton, UK.

    The extent to which women of reproductive age are able to convert
    the n-3
    fatty acid alpha-linolenic acid (ALNA) to eicosapentaenoic acid
    (EPA),
    docosapentaenoic acid (DPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) was
    investigated
    in vivo by measuring the concentrations of labelled fatty acids in
    plasma
    for 21 d following the ingestion of [U-13C]ALNA (700 mg).
    [13C]ALNA
    excursion was greatest in cholesteryl ester (CE) (224 (sem 70)
    &mgr;mol/l
    over 21 d) compared with triacylglycerol (9-fold), non-esterified
    fatty
    acids (37-fold) and phosphatidylcholine (PC, 7-fold). EPA
    excursion was
    similar in both PC (42 (sem 8) &mgr;mol/l) and CE (42 (sem 9)
    &mgr;mol/l)
    over 21 d. In contrast both [13C]DPA and [13C]DHA were detected
    predominately in PC (18 (sem 4) and 27 (sem 7) &mgr;mol/l over 21
    d,
    respectively). Estimated net fractional ALNA inter-conversion was
    EPA 21 %,
    DPA 6 % and DHA 9 %. Approximately 22 % of administered [13C]ALNA
    was
    recovered as 13CO2 on breath over the first 24 h of the study.
    These results
    suggest differential partitioning of ALNA, EPA and DHA between
    plasma lipid
    classes, which may facilitate targeting of individual n-3 fatty
    acids to
    specific tissues. Comparison with previous studies suggests that
    women may
    possess a greater capacity for ALNA conversion than men. Such
    metabolic
    capacity may be important for meeting the demands of the fetus and
    neonate
    for DHA during pregnancy and lactation. Differences in DHA status
    between
    women both in the non-pregnant state and in pregnancy may reflect
    variations
    in metabolic capacity for DHA synthesis.

    Int J Vitam Nutr Res 1998;68(3):159-73

    Can adults adequately convert alpha-linolenic acid (18:3n-3) to
    eicosapentaenoic acid (20:5n-3) and docosahexaenoic acid
    (22:6n-3)?

    Gerster H.

    Vitamin Research Department, F. Hoffman-Roche Ltd, Basel,
    Switzerland.

    A diet including 2-3 portions of fatty fish per week, which
    corresponds to
    the intake of 1.25 g EPA (20:5n-3) + DHA (22:6n-3) per day, has
    been
    officially recommended on the basis of epidemiological findings
    showing a
    beneficial role of these n-3 long-chain PUFA in the prevention of
    cardiovascular and inflammatory diseases. The parent fatty acid
    ALA
    (18:3n-3), found in vegetable oils such as flaxseed or rapeseed
    oil, is used
    by the human organism partly as a source of energy, partly as a
    precursor of
    the metabolites, but the degree of conversion appears to be
    unreliable and
    restricted. More specifically, most studies in humans have shown
    that
    whereas a certain, though restricted, conversion of high doses of
    ALA to EPA
    occurs, conversion to DHA is severely restricted. The use of ALA
    labelled
    with radioisotopes suggested that with a background diet high in
    saturated
    fat conversion to long-chain metabolites is approximately 6% for
    EPA and
    3.8% for DHA. With a diet rich in n-6 PUFA, conversion is reduced
    by 40 to
    50%. It is thus reasonable to observe an n-6/n-3 PUFA ratio not
    exceeding
    4-6. Restricted conversion to DHA may be critical since evidence
    has been
    increasing that this long-chain metabolite has an autonomous
    function, e.g.
    in the brain, retina and spermatozoa where it is the most
    prominent fatty
    acid. In neonates deficiency is associated with visual impairment,
    abnormalities in the electroretinogram and delayed cognitive
    development. In
    adults the potential role of DHA in neurological function still
    needs to be
    investigated in depth. Regarding cardiovascular risk factors DHA
    has been
    shown to reduce triglyceride concentrations. These findings
    indicate that
    future attention will have to focus on the adequate provision of
    DHA which
    can reliably be achieved only with the supply of the preformed
    long-chain
    metabolite.


    Thanks for an excellent response to an important question.
    The following reference illustrates the metabolic 'competition'
    between omega 3 and omega 6 PUFA which greatly influences the
    process.
    http://www.fatsoflife.com/intro_7.html

    MikeV

  4. Thanks for your detailed answer. I suppose one can interpret the
    results many different ways. I would like to maintain my confidance
    that a healthy body designed to produce DHA from ALA would do so
    whenever it needed, even at a low efficiency. I would like to
    interpret the results "Young men, ALA to DHA, 0%. (first abstract)" as
    that it was not 0% efficiency, but instead that for these young men,
    their bodies did not need at the time of the tests to convert any ALA
    to DHA, because it had enough DHA. It would be disappointing, but
    revealing to hear that these young men were suffering fron DHA
    deficiency at the time of the test.
    regards
    andrew

    "Larry Hoover" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "andrewvecsey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It is stated in many references that the body converts w3 into EPA/DHA
    "inefficiently" but they never say how efficient the conversion is.
    Can any one lead me to some answers?
    regards
    andrew vecsey
    http://geocities.com/andrewvecsey/omega3.html

    From the first abstract (ALNA is alpha-linolenic acid, the omega-3 in flax
    oil; DHA is the longer chained omega-3 in fish oil):

    "Since the capacity of adult males to convert ALNA to DHA was either very
    low or absent, uptake of pre-formed DHA from the diet may be critical for
    maintaining adequate membrane DHA concentrations in these individuals."

    Young men, ALA to DHA, 0%. (first abstract)
    Young women, ALA to DHA, 9%. (second abstract)
    The third abstract considers the effect of other fatty acid intake on conversion.

    Br J Nutr 2002 Oct;88(4):355-64

    Eicosapentaenoic and docosapentaenoic acids are the principal products of
    alpha-linolenic acid metabolism in young men*.

    Burdge GC, Jones AE, Wootton SA.

    Institute of Human Nutrition, Level C, West Wing, Southampton General
    Hospital, Tremona Road, Southampton, SO16 6YD, UK.

    The capacity for conversion of alpha-linolenic acid (ALNA) to n-3 long-chain
    polyunsaturated fatty acids was investigated in young men. Emulsified
    [U-13C]ALNA was administered orally with a mixed meal to six subjects
    consuming their habitual diet. Approximately 33 % of administered [13C]ALNA
    was recovered as 13CO2 on breath over the first 24 h. [13C]ALNA was
    mobilised from enterocytes primarily as chylomicron triacylglycerol (TAG),
    while [13C]ALNA incorporation into plasma phosphatidylcholine (PC) occurred
    later, probably by the liver. The time scale of conversion of [13C]ALNA to
    eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosapentaenoic acid (DPA) suggested that
    the liver was the principal site of ALNA desaturation and elongation,
    although there was some indication of EPA and DPA synthesis by enterocytes.
    [13C]EPA and [13C]DPA concentrations were greater in plasma PC than TAG, and
    were present in the circulation for up to 7 and 14 d, respectively. There
    was no apparent 13C enrichment of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) in plasma PC,
    TAG or non-esterified fatty acids at any time point measured up to 21 d.
    This pattern of 13C n-3 fatty acid labelling suggests inhibition or
    restriction of DHA synthesis downstream of DPA. [13C]ALNA, [13C]EPA and
    [13C]DPA were incorporated into erythrocyte PC, but not
    phosphatidylethanolamine, suggesting uptake of intact plasma PC molecules
    from lipoproteins into erythrocyte membranes. Since the capacity of adult
    males to convert ALNA to DHA was either very low or absent, uptake of
    pre-formed DHA from the diet may be critical for maintaining adequate
    membrane DHA concentrations in these individuals.

    Br J Nutr 2002 Oct;88(4):411-421

    Conversion of alpha-linolenic acid to eicosapentaenoic, docosapentaenoic and
    docosahexaenoic acids in young women.

    Burdge GC, Wootton SA.

    Institute of Human Nutrition, University of Southampton, Southampton, UK.

    The extent to which women of reproductive age are able to convert the n-3
    fatty acid alpha-linolenic acid (ALNA) to eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA),
    docosapentaenoic acid (DPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) was investigated
    in vivo by measuring the concentrations of labelled fatty acids in plasma
    for 21 d following the ingestion of [U-13C]ALNA (700 mg). [13C]ALNA
    excursion was greatest in cholesteryl ester (CE) (224 (sem 70) &mgr;mol/l
    over 21 d) compared with triacylglycerol (9-fold), non-esterified fatty
    acids (37-fold) and phosphatidylcholine (PC, 7-fold). EPA excursion was
    similar in both PC (42 (sem 8) &mgr;mol/l) and CE (42 (sem 9) &mgr;mol/l)
    over 21 d. In contrast both [13C]DPA and [13C]DHA were detected
    predominately in PC (18 (sem 4) and 27 (sem 7) &mgr;mol/l over 21 d,
    respectively). Estimated net fractional ALNA inter-conversion was EPA 21 %,
    DPA 6 % and DHA 9 %. Approximately 22 % of administered [13C]ALNA was
    recovered as 13CO2 on breath over the first 24 h of the study. These results
    suggest differential partitioning of ALNA, EPA and DHA between plasma lipid
    classes, which may facilitate targeting of individual n-3 fatty acids to
    specific tissues. Comparison with previous studies suggests that women may
    possess a greater capacity for ALNA conversion than men. Such metabolic
    capacity may be important for meeting the demands of the fetus and neonate
    for DHA during pregnancy and lactation. Differences in DHA status between
    women both in the non-pregnant state and in pregnancy may reflect variations
    in metabolic capacity for DHA synthesis.

    Int J Vitam Nutr Res 1998;68(3):159-73

    Can adults adequately convert alpha-linolenic acid (18:3n-3) to
    eicosapentaenoic acid (20:5n-3) and docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3)?

    Gerster H.

    Vitamin Research Department, F. Hoffman-Roche Ltd, Basel, Switzerland.

    A diet including 2-3 portions of fatty fish per week, which corresponds to
    the intake of 1.25 g EPA (20:5n-3) + DHA (22:6n-3) per day, has been
    officially recommended on the basis of epidemiological findings showing a
    beneficial role of these n-3 long-chain PUFA in the prevention of
    cardiovascular and inflammatory diseases. The parent fatty acid ALA
    (18:3n-3), found in vegetable oils such as flaxseed or rapeseed oil, is used
    by the human organism partly as a source of energy, partly as a precursor of
    the metabolites, but the degree of conversion appears to be unreliable and
    restricted. More specifically, most studies in humans have shown that
    whereas a certain, though restricted, conversion of high doses of ALA to EPA
    occurs, conversion to DHA is severely restricted. The use of ALA labelled
    with radioisotopes suggested that with a background diet high in saturated
    fat conversion to long-chain metabolites is approximately 6% for EPA and
    3.8% for DHA. With a diet rich in n-6 PUFA, conversion is reduced by 40 to
    50%. It is thus reasonable to observe an n-6/n-3 PUFA ratio not exceeding
    4-6. Restricted conversion to DHA may be critical since evidence has been
    increasing that this long-chain metabolite has an autonomous function, e.g.
    in the brain, retina and spermatozoa where it is the most prominent fatty
    acid. In neonates deficiency is associated with visual impairment,
    abnormalities in the electroretinogram and delayed cognitive development. In
    adults the potential role of DHA in neurological function still needs to be
    investigated in depth. Regarding cardiovascular risk factors DHA has been
    shown to reduce triglyceride concentrations. These findings indicate that
    future attention will have to focus on the adequate provision of DHA which
    can reliably be achieved only with the supply of the preformed long-chain
    metabolite.

  5. On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:27:07 -0500, "Larry Hoover"
    <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:


    "andrewvecsey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It is stated in many references that the body converts w3 into EPA/DHA
    "inefficiently" but they never say how efficient the conversion is.
    Can any one lead me to some answers?
    regards
    andrew vecsey
    http://geocities.com/andrewvecsey/omega3.html

    From the first abstract (ALNA is alpha-linolenic acid, the omega-3 in flax
    oil; DHA is the longer chained omega-3 in fish oil):

    "Since the capacity of adult males to convert ALNA to DHA was either very
    low or absent, uptake of pre-formed DHA from the diet may be critical for
    maintaining adequate membrane DHA concentrations in these individuals."

    Young men, ALA to DHA, 0%. (first abstract)
    Young women, ALA to DHA, 9%. (second abstract)
    The third abstract considers the effect of other fatty acid intake on conversion.

    Br J Nutr 2002 Oct;88(4):355-64

    Eicosapentaenoic and docosapentaenoic acids are the principal products of
    alpha-linolenic acid metabolism in young men*.

    Burdge GC, Jones AE, Wootton SA.

    Institute of Human Nutrition, Level C, West Wing, Southampton General
    Hospital, Tremona Road, Southampton, SO16 6YD, UK.

    The capacity for conversion of alpha-linolenic acid (ALNA) to n-3 long-chain
    polyunsaturated fatty acids was investigated in young men. Emulsified
    [U-13C]ALNA was administered orally with a mixed meal to six subjects
    consuming their habitual diet. Approximately 33 % of administered [13C]ALNA
    was recovered as 13CO2 on breath over the first 24 h. [13C]ALNA was
    mobilised from enterocytes primarily as chylomicron triacylglycerol (TAG),
    while [13C]ALNA incorporation into plasma phosphatidylcholine (PC) occurred
    later, probably by the liver. The time scale of conversion of [13C]ALNA to
    eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosapentaenoic acid (DPA) suggested that
    the liver was the principal site of ALNA desaturation and elongation,
    although there was some indication of EPA and DPA synthesis by enterocytes.
    [13C]EPA and [13C]DPA concentrations were greater in plasma PC than TAG, and
    were present in the circulation for up to 7 and 14 d, respectively. There
    was no apparent 13C enrichment of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) in plasma PC,
    TAG or non-esterified fatty acids at any time point measured up to 21 d.
    This pattern of 13C n-3 fatty acid labelling suggests inhibition or
    restriction of DHA synthesis downstream of DPA. [13C]ALNA, [13C]EPA and
    [13C]DPA were incorporated into erythrocyte PC, but not
    phosphatidylethanolamine, suggesting uptake of intact plasma PC molecules
    from lipoproteins into erythrocyte membranes. Since the capacity of adult
    males to convert ALNA to DHA was either very low or absent, uptake of
    pre-formed DHA from the diet may be critical for maintaining adequate
    membrane DHA concentrations in these individuals.

    Br J Nutr 2002 Oct;88(4):411-421

    Conversion of alpha-linolenic acid to eicosapentaenoic, docosapentaenoic and
    docosahexaenoic acids in young women.

    Burdge GC, Wootton SA.

    Institute of Human Nutrition, University of Southampton, Southampton, UK.

    The extent to which women of reproductive age are able to convert the n-3
    fatty acid alpha-linolenic acid (ALNA) to eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA),
    docosapentaenoic acid (DPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) was investigated
    in vivo by measuring the concentrations of labelled fatty acids in plasma
    for 21 d following the ingestion of [U-13C]ALNA (700 mg). [13C]ALNA
    excursion was greatest in cholesteryl ester (CE) (224 (sem 70) &mgr;mol/l
    over 21 d) compared with triacylglycerol (9-fold), non-esterified fatty
    acids (37-fold) and phosphatidylcholine (PC, 7-fold). EPA excursion was
    similar in both PC (42 (sem 8) &mgr;mol/l) and CE (42 (sem 9) &mgr;mol/l)
    over 21 d. In contrast both [13C]DPA and [13C]DHA were detected
    predominately in PC (18 (sem 4) and 27 (sem 7) &mgr;mol/l over 21 d,
    respectively). Estimated net fractional ALNA inter-conversion was EPA 21 %,
    DPA 6 % and DHA 9 %. Approximately 22 % of administered [13C]ALNA was
    recovered as 13CO2 on breath over the first 24 h of the study. These results
    suggest differential partitioning of ALNA, EPA and DHA between plasma lipid
    classes, which may facilitate targeting of individual n-3 fatty acids to
    specific tissues. Comparison with previous studies suggests that women may
    possess a greater capacity for ALNA conversion than men. Such metabolic
    capacity may be important for meeting the demands of the fetus and neonate
    for DHA during pregnancy and lactation. Differences in DHA status between
    women both in the non-pregnant state and in pregnancy may reflect variations
    in metabolic capacity for DHA synthesis.

    Int J Vitam Nutr Res 1998;68(3):159-73

    Can adults adequately convert alpha-linolenic acid (18:3n-3) to
    eicosapentaenoic acid (20:5n-3) and docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3)?

    Gerster H.

    Vitamin Research Department, F. Hoffman-Roche Ltd, Basel, Switzerland.

    A diet including 2-3 portions of fatty fish per week, which corresponds to
    the intake of 1.25 g EPA (20:5n-3) + DHA (22:6n-3) per day, has been
    officially recommended on the basis of epidemiological findings showing a
    beneficial role of these n-3 long-chain PUFA in the prevention of
    cardiovascular and inflammatory diseases. The parent fatty acid ALA
    (18:3n-3), found in vegetable oils such as flaxseed or rapeseed oil, is used
    by the human organism partly as a source of energy, partly as a precursor of
    the metabolites, but the degree of conversion appears to be unreliable and
    restricted. More specifically, most studies in humans have shown that
    whereas a certain, though restricted, conversion of high doses of ALA to EPA
    occurs, conversion to DHA is severely restricted. The use of ALA labelled
    with radioisotopes suggested that with a background diet high in saturated
    fat conversion to long-chain metabolites is approximately 6% for EPA and
    3.8% for DHA. With a diet rich in n-6 PUFA, conversion is reduced by 40 to
    50%. It is thus reasonable to observe an n-6/n-3 PUFA ratio not exceeding
    4-6. Restricted conversion to DHA may be critical since evidence has been
    increasing that this long-chain metabolite has an autonomous function, e.g.
    in the brain, retina and spermatozoa where it is the most prominent fatty
    acid. In neonates deficiency is associated with visual impairment,
    abnormalities in the electroretinogram and delayed cognitive development. In
    adults the potential role of DHA in neurological function still needs to be
    investigated in depth. Regarding cardiovascular risk factors DHA has been
    shown to reduce triglyceride concentrations. These findings indicate that
    future attention will have to focus on the adequate provision of DHA which
    can reliably be achieved only with the supply of the preformed long-chain
    metabolite.

    Yes, thanks for a fascinating response. I'm wondering what the bottom
    line is here. I keep hearing about EFAs (essential fatty acids) and
    can't seem to find a consistent definition of these.

    The studies you quote seem to indicate that fish oils are essential to
    health, and some EFAs cannot be derived from vegetable sources. Is
    this how you read it? If you eat only fats from a little lean meat, a
    little low fat cheese, and vegetable sources (avocado, grains and nuts
    - not refined oils, but the whole food) and your fat intake is say 20%
    of your calorie intake, will you likely get sufficient EFAs for good
    health? I'd really appreciate your comments on this, thanks.

  6. "Dunne E. Dawe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:27:07 -0500, "Larry Hoover"
    <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, thanks for a fascinating response. I'm wondering what the
    bottom
    line is here. I keep hearing about EFAs (essential fatty acids)
    and
    can't seem to find a consistent definition of these.

    The studies you quote seem to indicate that fish oils are
    essential to
    health, and some EFAs cannot be derived from vegetable sources. Is
    this how you read it? If you eat only fats from a little lean
    meat, a
    little low fat cheese, and vegetable sources (avocado, grains and
    nuts
    - not refined oils, but the whole food) and your fat intake is say
    20%
    of your calorie intake, will you likely get sufficient EFAs for
    good
    health? I'd really appreciate your comments on this, thanks.

    This is a good review, I believe, listing 226 refs. This should
    satisfy even a Mooshe. :-)

    http://www.st-hs.com/TMA_Forum/PUFA%20-%20Calvani%20Benatti%20-%20Feb%202K3.pdf

    MikeV

  7. On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:53:46 GMT, "MikeV" <[email hidden]>
    posted:

    Quoted message said:


    "Dunne E. Dawe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:27:07 -0500, "Larry Hoover"
    <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, thanks for a fascinating response. I'm wondering what the
    bottom
    line is here. I keep hearing about EFAs (essential fatty acids)
    and
    can't seem to find a consistent definition of these.

    The studies you quote seem to indicate that fish oils are
    essential to
    health, and some EFAs cannot be derived from vegetable sources. Is
    this how you read it? If you eat only fats from a little lean
    meat, a
    little low fat cheese, and vegetable sources (avocado, grains and
    nuts
    - not refined oils, but the whole food) and your fat intake is say
    20%
    of your calorie intake, will you likely get sufficient EFAs for
    good
    health? I'd really appreciate your comments on this, thanks.

    This is a good review, I believe, listing 226 refs. This should
    satisfy even a Mooshe. :-)

    http://www.st-hs.com/TMA_Forum/PUFA%20-%20Calvani%20Benatti%20-%20Feb%202K3.pdf

    Thanks Mike. I've printed it out to study it thoroughly.
    Lots to learn! Great stuff!
    By the way, what's a Mooshe? Is that an American term?

  8. "Dunne E. Dawe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:53:46 GMT, "MikeV"
    <[email hidden]>
    posted:

    Quoted message said:


    "Dunne E. Dawe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:27:07 -0500, "Larry Hoover"
    <[email hidden]> posted:

    >

    I'd really appreciate your comments on this, thanks.

    This is a good review, I believe, listing 226 refs. This should
    satisfy even a Mooshe. :-)

    http://www.st-hs.com/TMA_Forum/PUFA%20-%20Calvani%20Benatti%20-%20Feb%202K3.pdf

    Thanks Mike. I've printed it out to study it thoroughly.
    Lots to learn! Great stuff!
    By the way, what's a Mooshe? Is that an American term?

    An Aussie not familiar with the Mooshe... ... ? I'd have to say that
    this is roughly the equivalent of not knowing "Walting Matilda".

    'The Mooshe' was a fabled but elusive "swagperson" who roamed the
    outback and the news-groups around the turn of the century. (even
    her/his gender was uncertain and frequently debated).
    Almost never missed a chance to leave his mark, frequently derisive,
    on other posters' generally inadequate posts.
    Probably of Pommish origin. Definitely not your typical laid-back
    Aussie.
    Rumored to have been been an illegitimate off-spring of an itinerant
    Oxford Don.
    Style: Casting pearls to the masses.
    Key words: Traditional; succinct; pedantic; simplistic;
    authoritative; deluded; glycemic.

    Search the google 'groups' for 'mooshe' along with almost any
    scientific topic. You'll find her/him! :-)

    HTH
    MikeV

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