taxing runners?

rick++ said:

Some people in Boulder Colorado are upset about a racing tax:
http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2004/11/15/news/news01.txt
Boulder is considered one of the best places in the US to run
due to scenery, climate, and altitude.
Boulder is also one of the most leftist cities in the US.

Whether there should be tax is one thing, but if ya don't
like "leftist" Boulder, don't run there. Maybe you should
run in Orange, CA, one of the most right wing cities in
the US. They don't have similarly attractive open space
and trails...

Boulder is _also_ one of the few city/counties around that
has the sort of open space, trails, parks, and scenery
preserved for recreational activities like running and hiking
and climbing that other residents in "rightist" run places
can only dream about. If you want the "best," you have to
pay for it.

Be it a red city or a blue city, this is just another example of filthy,
slimy greedy politicians trying to screw people out of more money so
they, the politicians, can hire and/or give out contracts to more of
their supporters to insure they get reelected.

Even the dumbest tax collector should be able to tell the difference
between an admission charge to view an event, and an entry fee to
participate in an event.

Tom Phillips said:

rick++ said:

Some people in Boulder Colorado are upset about a racing tax:
http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2004/11/15/news/news01.txt
Boulder is considered one of the best places in the US to run
due to scenery, climate, and altitude.
Boulder is also one of the most leftist cities in the US.

Whether there should be tax is one thing, but if ya don't
like "leftist" Boulder, don't run there. Maybe you should
run in Orange, CA, one of the most right wing cities in
the US. They don't have similarly attractive open space
and trails...

Boulder is _also_ one of the few city/counties around that
has the sort of open space, trails, parks, and scenery
preserved for recreational activities like running and hiking
and climbing that other residents in "rightist" run places
can only dream about. If you want the "best," you have to
pay for it.

Bumper said:

Be it a red city or a blue city, this is just another example of filthy,
slimy greedy politicians trying to screw people out of more money so
they, the politicians, can hire and/or give out contracts to more of
their supporters to insure they get reelected.

Even the dumbest tax collector should be able to tell the difference
between an admission charge to view an event, and an entry fee to
participate in an event.

And you live there, right?

Individual tax issues are one thing. Even the dumbest
"rightist" or libertarian knows taxes are necessary.
But making partisan-dumb ass political statements are
something else. Don't like "leftist" Boulder? Simple:
don't go/run/live there. Don't want ya anyway...

BTW, the right wing morons may have won the white house,
but here in CO the _dems_ took the state. Oh gee, what
rick+++ do now? Move to Orange County? -- I'll buy his
bus fare...

Quoted message said:

Tom Phillips said:

rick++ said:

Some people in Boulder Colorado are upset about a racing tax:
http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2004/11/15/news/news01.txt
Boulder is considered one of the best places in the US to run
due to scenery, climate, and altitude.
Boulder is also one of the most leftist cities in the US.

Whether there should be tax is one thing, but if ya don't
like "leftist" Boulder, don't run there. Maybe you should
run in Orange, CA, one of the most right wing cities in
the US. They don't have similarly attractive open space
and trails...

Boulder is _also_ one of the few city/counties around that
has the sort of open space, trails, parks, and scenery
preserved for recreational activities like running and hiking
and climbing that other residents in "rightist" run places
can only dream about. If you want the "best," you have to
pay for it.

Gosh Tom you are dumb as a brick. Not only can't you read, but you must
not have studied much "real world" politics recently.

I'll type this real slow so maybe you can understand it.

There is no difference between a democrat and a republican. Once elected
they go to work to get reelected. How? By spending our money. Well it
use to be our money.

Where I live is immaterial. If a large number of people decide not to
come to "your" community to run a race, and spend their money on all of
the related expenses because it now costs a hundred dollars more than
the week before because a politician thinks they have found a way to
squeeze a little more blood out the turnip, everyone loses.

Last time I looked all the national networks had colored Colorado red
for Bush. So I guess you will be the one leaving "your" great state.

So take your name calling, typical left wing "I'm gonna tell you where,
what, how, when and who you gonna do, 'cause only us liberals know
what's best for everybody else" and shove it up your ass.

By the way, who died and appointed you the gate keeper?

Tom Phillips said:

Bumper said:

Be it a red city or a blue city, this is just another example of filthy,
slimy greedy politicians trying to screw people out of more money so
they, the politicians, can hire and/or give out contracts to more of
their supporters to insure they get reelected.

Even the dumbest tax collector should be able to tell the difference
between an admission charge to view an event, and an entry fee to
participate in an event.

And you live there, right?

Individual tax issues are one thing. Even the dumbest
"rightist" or libertarian knows taxes are necessary.
But making partisan-dumb ass political statements are
something else. Don't like "leftist" Boulder? Simple:
don't go/run/live there. Don't want ya anyway...

BTW, the right wing morons may have won the white house,
but here in CO the _dems_ took the state. Oh gee, what
rick+++ do now? Move to Orange County? -- I'll buy his
bus fare...

Quoted message said:

Tom Phillips said:

rick++ wrote:
>
> Some people in Boulder Colorado are upset about a racing tax:
> http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2004/11/15/news/news01.txt
> Boulder is considered one of the best places in the US to run
> due to scenery, climate, and altitude.
> Boulder is also one of the most leftist cities in the US.

Whether there should be tax is one thing, but if ya don't
like "leftist" Boulder, don't run there. Maybe you should
run in Orange, CA, one of the most right wing cities in
the US. They don't have similarly attractive open space
and trails...

Boulder is _also_ one of the few city/counties around that
has the sort of open space, trails, parks, and scenery
preserved for recreational activities like running and hiking
and climbing that other residents in "rightist" run places
can only dream about. If you want the "best," you have to
pay for it.

Bumper said:

Gosh Tom you are dumb as a brick. Not only can't you read, but you must
not have studied much "real world" politics recently.

Gosh, try using your _real_ name if you want any credibility,
bumphead...

Quoted message said:

I'll type this real slow so maybe you can understand it.

Well, I can type _fast_. Guess you can't.

Quoted message said:

There is no difference between a democrat and a republican.

Ah, yes there is, dumbshit. You and Ralph Nader should grow
up and then shut up. It's the right wing of the republican
party (who also are fond of demonizing Boulder and any other
Americans they disagree with) who are weakening air and water
quality standards, refuse to accept global warming _even_
though the polar ice cap and glaciers world wide are melting,
and think Dubya is on a mission from "God" to convert the
world to Jerry Falwell rewrite the US Constitution from
"goverment by and for the people" to "government by and for
the CEO." A significant diff if ya ask me, and I'm neither
dem or repub.

At least the _democrats_ under Clinton actually did what
the republicans always [censored] about: namely, balance the
federal budget. And guess what? Under the republican
congress government spending is higher than it's ever
been. Boulder? Who cares about Boulder taxes and politics?
The way Boulder manages and balances the environment and
quality of life should be a model for the entire nation.
Don't like it, go fricking run in Pittsburgh...

Quoted message said:

Once elected
they go to work to get reelected. How? By spending our money. Well it
use to be our money.

Taxes are as old as prostitution. Get over it...

Quoted message said:

Where I live is immaterial.

Ah, just as I thought. Where _you_ live isn't Boulder.
So shut up...

Quoted message said:

If a large number of people decide not to
come to "your" community to run a race, and spend their money on all of
the related expenses because it now costs a hundred dollars more than
the week before because a politician thinks they have found a way to
squeeze a little more blood out the turnip, everyone loses.

Get an education. _NOTHING_ stops people from coming to
beautiful CO. And just why is that? Because some (like
Boulder _elected_ officials representing the populance,
as opposoed to rick+++) make sure there still a something
"beautiful" to come and visit besides shopping malls. BTW,
CO also has quite substantial statewide tourism taxes. Big
fricking deal. Don't like it, stay home.

Quoted message said:

Last time I looked all the national networks had colored Colorado red
for Bush. So I guess you will be the one leaving "your" great state.

What you know about CO politics you could stick in a
thimble. In other words, people don't care about stupid
social conservative "gay marriage" issues here...

Quoted message said:

So take your name calling, typical left wing

How typical of the hypocritcal right. _I_ didn't
start political namecalling in the name of running.
rick+++ Nor am I "leftist," "rightist" or any other
political animal. Rick doesn't live in Boulder...

Quoted message said:

"I'm gonna tell you where,
what, how, when and who you gonna do, 'cause only us liberals know
what's best for everybody else" and shove it up your ass.

By the way, who died and appointed you the gate keeper?

Let me know when you come here. I'll show you the gate 🙂

Quoted message said:

Tom Phillips said:

Bumper said:

Be it a red city or a blue city, this is just another example of filthy,
slimy greedy politicians trying to screw people out of more money so
they, the politicians, can hire and/or give out contracts to more of
their supporters to insure they get reelected.

Even the dumbest tax collector should be able to tell the difference
between an admission charge to view an event, and an entry fee to
participate in an event.

And you live there, right?

Individual tax issues are one thing. Even the dumbest
"rightist" or libertarian knows taxes are necessary.
But making partisan-dumb ass political statements are
something else. Don't like "leftist" Boulder? Simple:
don't go/run/live there. Don't want ya anyway...

BTW, the right wing morons may have won the white house,
but here in CO the _dems_ took the state. Oh gee, what
rick+++ do now? Move to Orange County? -- I'll buy his
bus fare...

Quoted message said:

Tom Phillips <[email hidden]> wrote:

> rick++ wrote:
> >
> > Some people in Boulder Colorado are upset about a racing tax:
> > http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2004/11/15/news/news01.txt
> > Boulder is considered one of the best places in the US to run
> > due to scenery, climate, and altitude.
> > Boulder is also one of the most leftist cities in the US.
>
> Whether there should be tax is one thing, but if ya don't
> like "leftist" Boulder, don't run there. Maybe you should
> run in Orange, CA, one of the most right wing cities in
> the US. They don't have similarly attractive open space
> and trails...
>
> Boulder is _also_ one of the few city/counties around that
> has the sort of open space, trails, parks, and scenery
> preserved for recreational activities like running and hiking
> and climbing that other residents in "rightist" run places
> can only dream about. If you want the "best," you have to
> pay for it.

[email hidden] (rick++) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Some people in Boulder Colorado are upset about a racing tax:
http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2004/11/15/news/news01.txt
Boulder is considered one of the best places in the US to run
due to scenery, climate, and altitude.
Boulder is also one of the most leftist cities in the US.

That does not compute.

A so-called leftist city actually working in a capitalistic way,
collecting fees for resource use?

Don't they know that the real looting action is in identifying those
pesky wealth producers and stealing a chunk of their income?

Quoted message said:

Even the dumbest

Well Ricks your man allright. This guys thicker than brick.

Quoted message said:

Gosh Tom you are dumb as a brick.

DAMMIT! He took my line.

Quoted message said:

Gosh Tom you are dumb as a brick.

Yes, but Rick is dumber.

Quoted message said:

I'll type this real slow so maybe you can understand it.

You must keep the words in one or two syllables, or you'll lose him.

Quoted message said:

The way Boulder manages and balances the environment and

quality of life should be a model for the entire nation.
_____

Tom, here is where Boulder & C0. is "missing it" and I think you'll agree with
me. There's room for every level of Government to have targeted tax breaks,
perks, etc.

Events, services, & products that work in the aggregate interest of improving
citizens health, lower medical costs, etc. should be encouraged & fostered
through an array of means (included tax breaks/perks).

Right now we all subsidize the care & societal cost of unfit people that make
unhealthy choices. Sure, a runner in an event could get injured.....but
methinks a much higher percentage of the Krispy Kreme & McDonald's crowd will
have clogged arteries and cost the tax-payer more money.

Boulder, CO, and our country should think of the big picture and foster
(subsidize) running and walking events, and have certain things be tax-free
entirely like athletic products, organic & unprocessed foods, etc. and have
huge tobacco-like taxes on junk food, Lazy-Boy Chairs, & all things "couch
potato".

I'm on your side Tom, I just think on the list of targets to secure more
revenue from within the city limits....there are candidates that rank much
higher to punish. Let me ask you...do they sell fastfood, cigarettes, Doritos
and SUV's in Boulder? No matter how they're taxed now, tax them some more!
But keep your hands out of the pockets of events that serve the health interest
of the citizens.

Off the top of my head....I'm guessing CO has no problem tax perking &
subsidizing clogging arteries of people all around the world through their huge
Beef/Cattle industry...right? Amusing ironic...that in Colorado the red carpet
is rolled out for the clogging of arteries industry...while a running event
serving health interest is not privy to similar perks.

Lanceandrew said:

Quoted message said:

The way Boulder manages and balances the environment and

quality of life should be a model for the entire nation.
_____

Tom, here is where Boulder & C0. is "missing it" and I think you'll agree with
me. There's room for every level of Government to have targeted tax breaks,
perks, etc.

Events, services, & products that work in the aggregate interest of improving
citizens health, lower medical costs, etc. should be encouraged & fostered
through an array of means (included tax breaks/perks).

Right now we all subsidize the care & societal cost of unfit people that make
unhealthy choices. Sure, a runner in an event could get injured.....but
methinks a much higher percentage of the Krispy Kreme & McDonald's crowd will
have clogged arteries and cost the tax-payer more money.

Boulder, CO, and our country should think of the big picture and foster
(subsidize) running and walking events, and have certain things be tax-free
entirely like athletic products, organic & unprocessed foods, etc. and have
huge tobacco-like taxes on junk food, Lazy-Boy Chairs, & all things "couch
potato".

I'm on your side Tom,

And I appreciate it!

Quoted message said:

I just think on the list of targets to secure more
revenue from within the city limits....there are candidates that rank much
higher to punish. Let me ask you...do they sell fastfood, cigarettes, Doritos
and SUV's in Boulder? No matter how they're taxed now, tax them some more!
But keep your hands out of the pockets of events that serve the health interest
of the citizens.

Actually, Boulder is the cycling/running/climbing capital
of the West. Good thing they don't give out tickets to us
drivers who honk incessantly at bikers..

I have no issue with taxing the other candidates. Just
sick of partisan automatons (most from somewhere else)
using Boulder for stock "unAmerican" leftist metaphors.
County for county, Boulder is one of the best there is.

Quoted message said:

Off the top of my head....I'm guessing CO has no problem tax perking &
subsidizing clogging arteries of people all around the world through their huge
Beef/Cattle industry...right?

Tourism is the No. 1 industry here. Wheat and sugar beets
are bigger than beef steak.

Quoted message said:

Amusing ironic...that in Colorado the red carpet
is rolled out for the clogging of arteries industry...while a running event
serving health interest is not privy to similar perks.

I'd wager Boulder is the vegan capital as well 😉

Lanceandrew said:

Quoted message said:

The way Boulder manages and balances the environment and

quality of life should be a model for the entire nation.
_____

Tom, here is where Boulder & C0. is "missing it" and I think you'll agree with
me. There's room for every level of Government to have targeted tax breaks,
perks, etc.

Events, services, & products that work in the aggregate interest of improving
citizens health, lower medical costs, etc. should be encouraged & fostered
through an array of means (included tax breaks/perks).

Right now we all subsidize the care & societal cost of unfit people that make
unhealthy choices. Sure, a runner in an event could get injured.....but
methinks a much higher percentage of the Krispy Kreme & McDonald's crowd will
have clogged arteries and cost the tax-payer more money.

Boulder, CO, and our country should think of the big picture and foster
(subsidize) running and walking events, and have certain things be tax-free
entirely like athletic products, organic & unprocessed foods, etc. and have
huge tobacco-like taxes on junk food, Lazy-Boy Chairs, & all things "couch
potato".

I'm on your side Tom,

And I appreciate it!

Quoted message said:

I just think on the list of targets to secure more
revenue from within the city limits....there are candidates that rank much
higher to punish. Let me ask you...do they sell fastfood, cigarettes, Doritos
and SUV's in Boulder? No matter how they're taxed now, tax them some more!
But keep your hands out of the pockets of events that serve the health interest
of the citizens.

Actually, Boulder is the cycling/running/climbing capital
of the West. Good thing they don't give out tickets to us
drivers who honk incessantly at bikers..

I have no issue with taxing the other candidates. Just
sick of partisan automatons (most from somewhere else)
using Boulder for stock "unAmerican" leftist metaphors.
County for county, Boulder is one of the best there is.

Quoted message said:

Off the top of my head....I'm guessing CO has no problem tax perking &
subsidizing clogging arteries of people all around the world through their huge
Beef/Cattle industry...right?

Tourism is the No. 1 industry here. Wheat and sugar beets
are bigger than beef steak.

Quoted message said:

Amusing ironic...that in Colorado the red carpet
is rolled out for the clogging of arteries industry...while a running event
serving health interest is not privy to similar perks.

I'd wager Boulder is the vegan capital as well 😉

Lanceandrew said:

Quoted message said:

The way Boulder manages and balances the environment and

quality of life should be a model for the entire nation.
_____

Tom, here is where Boulder & C0. is "missing it" and I think you'll agree with
me. There's room for every level of Government to have targeted tax breaks,
perks, etc.

Events, services, & products that work in the aggregate interest of improving
citizens health, lower medical costs, etc. should be encouraged & fostered
through an array of means (included tax breaks/perks).

Right now we all subsidize the care & societal cost of unfit people that make
unhealthy choices. Sure, a runner in an event could get injured.....but
methinks a much higher percentage of the Krispy Kreme & McDonald's crowd will
have clogged arteries and cost the tax-payer more money.

Boulder, CO, and our country should think of the big picture and foster
(subsidize) running and walking events, and have certain things be tax-free
entirely like athletic products, organic & unprocessed foods, etc. and have
huge tobacco-like taxes on junk food, Lazy-Boy Chairs, & all things "couch
potato".

I'm on your side Tom,

And I appreciate it!

Quoted message said:

I just think on the list of targets to secure more
revenue from within the city limits....there are candidates that rank much
higher to punish. Let me ask you...do they sell fastfood, cigarettes, Doritos
and SUV's in Boulder? No matter how they're taxed now, tax them some more!
But keep your hands out of the pockets of events that serve the health interest
of the citizens.

Actually, Boulder is the cycling/running/climbing capital
of the West. Good thing they don't give out tickets to us
drivers who honk incessantly at bikers..

I have no issue with taxing the other candidates. Just
sick of partisan automatons (most from somewhere else)
using Boulder for stock "unAmerican" leftist metaphors.
County for county, Boulder is one of the best there is.

Quoted message said:

Off the top of my head....I'm guessing CO has no problem tax perking &
subsidizing clogging arteries of people all around the world through their huge
Beef/Cattle industry...right?

Tourism is the No. 1 industry here. Wheat and sugar beets
are bigger than beef steak.

Quoted message said:

Amusing ironic...that in Colorado the red carpet
is rolled out for the clogging of arteries industry...while a running event
serving health interest is not privy to similar perks.

I'd wager Boulder is the vegan capital as well 😉

Tom Phillips <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Every guy named "Tom" I ever met was an (_!_)hole.

Also known as The Dork Tax. Critics are calling it a tax on the
mentally challenged, and are vowing to wage a tough court battle in
support of the rights of the infirmed.

Quoted message said:

in
support of the rights of the infirmed.

What does penile dysfunction have to do with it? But consult Roger, I hear he's
an expert on the matter.

Quoted message said:

Good thing they don't give out tickets to us
drivers who honk incessantly at bikers..

I hope this is a joke. You don't need to be honking at bikers, you
need to move left and give them room!

BTW, I would be [censored] too to have a partisipation tax added to races.

Myo

Quoted message said:

I hope this is a joke.

I hope not.

Quoted message said:

You don't need to be honking at bikers,

Yes you do, it distracts them, and 1 out of 4 times they'll crash. It's pretty
funny.

Quoted message said:

you
need to move left and give them room!

I like to get inches off their side or back, then lay into the horn. It's
R-I-O-T.

[email hidden] (Kaz Kylheku) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

A so-called leftist city actually working in a capitalistic way,
collecting fees for resource use?

The feeling is some of these "busy-body" governments pass too many laws.
Its not always leftist, though Boulder is consider a fortress in the Rockies
for that reputation. They now want tax plastic supermarket bags to discourage
their use.