Proves it again...

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

The trainee cabinet maker died in hospital
from a fractured skull and brain injuries.

Christopher Bulstrode, who was driving the car, told the hearing he had not
seen any lights or reflective clothing before the crash, which happened at
about 6.50pm as he was driving along the B1077 from Occold to Eye, near Diss.

Mr Bulstrode, of Mill Road, Occold, said he had been on his way to see his
girlfriend at the time and did not stop after the collision. But at 9pm he went
to Eye police station and told them what had happened.

One wonders how much he contributed further to the death by driving away
"to see his girlfriend" and waiting over two hours before reporting the
accident. In trauma medicine its well known that time to pre-hospital
and hospital treatment is the biggest factor in survival which is why
they have the Norfolk Accident Rescue Service to provide rapid medical
support to accident victims. It doesn't say here how long it was after
the accident before he was found and the emergency services activated.

Tony

in message <[email hidden]>,

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers (') said:

... if you want to do away with someone and get off with a slapped
wrist, once again it shows the car to be the weapon of choice :-(

I am not ever surprised by these things any more, but I am *always*
angered by the leniency shown to drivers who kill when clearly, it
*wasn't* unavoidable. I am also continually appalled by the comment of
the coroner, who seems to be an utter, well, the word rhymes with
banker...

See

Mr Bulstrode, of Mill Road, Occold, said he had been on his way to see
his girlfriend at the time and did not stop after the collision. But
at 9pm he went to Eye police station and told them what had happened.

Reading his statement, the 20-year-old carpet fitter said: "I heard a
bang and something came up over the bonnet.

"I was stunned by the sudden impact and looked behind to see I had hit
a cyclist."

So: he saw the cyclist come up on the bonnet of his car. He then looked
behind to see the cyclist lying in the road, dying or dead. He then
drove on, unconcerned. Hitting the cyclist may or may not be excusable,
I'm not making any particular point about that. Failing to take the
most urgent possible action to get medical attention to the victim is
utterly inexcusable, and has to be manslaughter - no other charge can
possibly be adequate.

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And police had spoken to two motorists who said they had seen him with
his light visible shortly before the accident.

Sgt Colin Teager said Mr Bulstrode told police he had been checking
his rear mirror just before the crash, but could have just had a
"momentary lapse of concentration".

And this man was not sent to prison? What on earth is the point of
having a penal system?

--
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;; I'll have a proper rant later, when I get the time.

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>,

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers (') said:

... if you want to do away with someone and get off with a slapped
wrist, once again it shows the car to be the weapon of choice :-(

I am not ever surprised by these things any more, but I am *always*
angered by the leniency shown to drivers who kill when clearly, it
*wasn't* unavoidable. I am also continually appalled by the comment of
the coroner, who seems to be an utter, well, the word rhymes with
banker...

See

Mr Bulstrode, of Mill Road, Occold, said he had been on his way to see
his girlfriend at the time and did not stop after the collision. But
at 9pm he went to Eye police station and told them what had happened.

Reading his statement, the 20-year-old carpet fitter said: "I heard a
bang and something came up over the bonnet.

"I was stunned by the sudden impact and looked behind to see I had hit
a cyclist."

So: he saw the cyclist come up on the bonnet of his car. He then looked
behind to see the cyclist lying in the road, dying or dead. He then
drove on, unconcerned. Hitting the cyclist may or may not be excusable,
I'm not making any particular point about that. Failing to take the
most urgent possible action to get medical attention to the victim is
utterly inexcusable, and has to be manslaughter - no other charge can
possibly be adequate.

Quoted message said:

And police had spoken to two motorists who said they had seen him with
his light visible shortly before the accident.

Sgt Colin Teager said Mr Bulstrode told police he had been checking
his rear mirror just before the crash, but could have just had a
"momentary lapse of concentration".

And this man was not sent to prison? What on earth is the point of
having a penal system?

Beggers belief doesn't it?

I stuck a driver on last night for far, far less. The cyclist wasn't
hurt but the driver had shown enough for a charge of careless driving
and I had two witnesses.

Sniper8052

Simon Brooke vaguely muttered something like ...

Quoted message said:

in message <[email hidden]>,

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers (') said:

... if you want to do away with someone and get off with a slapped
wrist, once again it shows the car to be the weapon of choice :-(

I am not ever surprised by these things any more, but I am *always*
angered by the leniency shown to drivers who kill when clearly, it
*wasn't* unavoidable. I am also continually appalled by the comment of
the coroner, who seems to be an utter, well, the word rhymes with
banker...

See

Mr Bulstrode, of Mill Road, Occold, said he had been on his way to see
his girlfriend at the time and did not stop after the collision. But
at 9pm he went to Eye police station and told them what had happened.

Reading his statement, the 20-year-old carpet fitter said: "I heard a
bang and something came up over the bonnet.

"I was stunned by the sudden impact and looked behind to see I had hit
a cyclist."

So: he saw the cyclist come up on the bonnet of his car. He then looked
behind to see the cyclist lying in the road, dying or dead. He then
drove on, unconcerned. Hitting the cyclist may or may not be excusable,
I'm not making any particular point about that. Failing to take the
most urgent possible action to get medical attention to the victim is
utterly inexcusable, and has to be manslaughter - no other charge can
possibly be adequate.

Quoted message said:

And police had spoken to two motorists who said they had seen him with
his light visible shortly before the accident.

Sgt Colin Teager said Mr Bulstrode told police he had been checking
his rear mirror just before the crash, but could have just had a
"momentary lapse of concentration".

And this man was not sent to prison? What on earth is the point of
having a penal system?

Much as I hate to say it, it would seem that, in the eyes of 'the law',
having a car is a licence to kill with relative impunity. Makes me ashamed
to admit I love driving, cars, and fast cars to boot.

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!
"A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."

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Much as I hate to say it, it would seem that, in the eyes of 'the law',
having a car is a licence to kill with relative impunity. Makes me ashamed
to admit I love driving, cars, and fast cars to boot.

Well quite a few of us here are motorists as well as cyclists...and
pedestrians. I like driving too. What I don't like is the way the law fails to
deal with people who so *obviously* fail to take their responsibilities,
legally & morally, towards other road users into account. It stinks.

Cheers, helen s

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers [email hidden] opined the
following...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Much as I hate to say it, it would seem that, in the eyes of 'the law',
having a car is a licence to kill with relative impunity. Makes me ashamed
to admit I love driving, cars, and fast cars to boot.

Well quite a few of us here are motorists as well as cyclists...and
pedestrians. I like driving too. What I don't like is the way the law fails to
deal with people who so *obviously* fail to take their responsibilities,
legally & morally, towards other road users into account. It stinks.

The problem is that for many, driving becomes fun when it becomes
exciting. 250 miles by motorway is not fun. 50 miles on winding country
roads is. The excitement comes from the element of danger and
unpredictability.

My recent observation (which had a marked effect on my driving style)
was that if it's exciting, it's too fast for the circumstances.

I can ride a bike at speeds and conditions that I find exciting, but
which don't endanger others (much), the same is not true of driving off
the race track.

Jon

Jon Senior vaguely muttered something like ...

Quoted message said:

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers [email hidden] opined the
following...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Much as I hate to say it, it would seem that, in the eyes of 'the law',
having a car is a licence to kill with relative impunity. Makes me
ashamed to admit I love driving, cars, and fast cars to boot.

Well quite a few of us here are motorists as well as cyclists...and
pedestrians. I like driving too. What I don't like is the way the law
fails to deal with people who so *obviously* fail to take their
responsibilities, legally & morally, towards other road users into
account. It stinks.

The problem is that for many, driving becomes fun when it becomes
exciting. 250 miles by motorway is not fun. 50 miles on winding country
roads is. The excitement comes from the element of danger and
unpredictability.

My recent observation (which had a marked effect on my driving style)
was that if it's exciting, it's too fast for the circumstances.

I can ride a bike at speeds and conditions that I find exciting, but
which don't endanger others (much), the same is not true of driving off
the race track.

Whuilst I agree in general, personally I drive to 'wind down' on small
country roads .. I now quite like bimbling along at 40 or 50 on an NSL road.
😉

Of course, however and probably unlike many other drivers, I still have the
option of racing and my motorbike competition to take any aggression away.

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!
"A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."

"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

... if you want to do away with someone and get off with a slapped wrist,

once

Quoted message said:

again it shows the car to be the weapon of choice :-(

I am not ever surprised by these things any more, but I am *always*

angered by

Quoted message said:

the leniency shown to drivers who kill when clearly, it *wasn't*

unavoidable. I

Quoted message said:

am also continually appalled by the comment of the coroner, who seems to

be an

Quoted message said:

utter, well, the word rhymes with banker...

See

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Ne
ws&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED19%20Nov%202004%2019%3A13%3A
39%3A320

or

http://tinyurl.com/677hy

"Driver didn't see cyclist, inquest hears

MIKE SHERBURN

20 November 2004 06:15

A 17-year-old BMX enthusiast was killed after being hit by a car because

the

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driver did not see him, an inquest heard yesterday.

James Dean Halil had been on his way to meet friends on March 23 when the
silver Peugeot 106 hit his bike. The trainee cabinet maker died in

hospital

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from a fractured skull and brain injuries.

Christopher Bulstrode, who was driving the car, told the hearing he had

not

Quoted message said:

seen any lights or reflective clothing before the crash, which happened at
about 6.50pm as he was driving along the B1077 from Occold to Eye, near

Diss.

Quoted message said:

Mr Bulstrode, of Mill Road, Occold, said he had been on his way to see his
girlfriend at the time and did not stop after the collision. But at 9pm he

went

Quoted message said:

to Eye police station and told them what had happened.

Reading his statement, the 20-year-old carpet fitter said: "I heard a bang

and

Quoted message said:

something came up over the bonnet.

"I was stunned by the sudden impact and looked behind to see I had hit a
cyclist."

The inquest heard that Mr Halil's father had watched him leave the family

home

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in Dublin Road, Rishangles, near Diss, and had seen that a red rear-facing
light was tucked in his rucksack and visible.

And police had spoken to two motorists who said they had seen him with his
light visible shortly before the accident.

Sgt Colin Teager said Mr Bulstrode told police he had been checking his

rear

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mirror just before the crash, but could have just had a "momentary lapse

of

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concentration".

Recording a verdict of accidental death, Lowestoft coroner George Leguen

de

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Lacroix said the crash had already had a "devastating effect" on Mr

Bulstrode

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and the family of James Halil.

He added it was "impossible to say why" Mr Bulstrode had not seen the

cyclist.

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On July 21, Mr Bulstrode admitted careless driving, failing to stop after

an

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accident and driving a vehicle which had sustained sufficient damage to

cause

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potential injury. He was disqualified for a year and fined a total of

£450."

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helen s

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I have been knocked off twice by cars. The helmet debate aside, no serious
or lasting injuries. The difference is that both drivers stopped, admitted
their fault, were very remorseful and did what they could to help. Both
also contacted me later to check my welfare. The first came into casualty
to see me! This removed my impulse to get angry.

We all make mistakes. What matters is how we deal with the consequences.

Robin (shaken but not stirred) Long

"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:[email hidden]...

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Reading his statement, the 20-year-old carpet fitter said: "I heard a bang

and

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something came up over the bonnet.

"I was stunned by the sudden impact and looked behind to see I had hit a
cyclist."

Oh, only a cyclist, that's alright then, carry on.

How could any normal person not stop?
Words fail me.

Pete