A definition, please

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:07:29 -0700, Pat Rasmussen <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.

What is that?

Pat

Engineered - as in Frankenstein.

Lybbe
Highest Weight - 308
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 217.0
Goal - 150

Pat Rasmussen said:

I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.

What is that?

Pat

Genetically Modified as in Franken-Stein etc.

Irv
--
--------------------------------------
Diagnosed Type II Diabetes March 5 2001
Beating it with diet and exercise!
297/215/210 (to be revised lower)
58"/43"(!)/44" (already lower too!)
--------------------------------------
Visit my HomePage at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv/index.html
Visit my Baby Sofia website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv4/index.htm
Visit my OLDTIMERS website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv5/index.htm
--------------------
Irv Finkleman,
Grampa/Ex-Navy/Old Fart/Ham Radio VE6BP
Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Ignoramus13790 wrote:
:: Foods made out of space age chemicals that are designed to resemble
:: regular junk food and grain products.

Hey - regular junk food and highly processed foods are frankenfoods, too.

::
:: i
::
:: On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:07:29 -0700, Pat Rasmussen
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::: I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.
:::
::: What is that?
:::
::: Pat
:::
::
::
:: --
:: 223/173.4/180

Roger Zoul said:

Ignoramus13790 wrote:
:: Foods made out of space age chemicals that are designed to resemble
:: regular junk food and grain products.

Hey - regular junk food and highly processed foods are frankenfoods, too.

::
:: i
::
:: On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:07:29 -0700, Pat Rasmussen
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::: I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.
:::
::: What is that?
:::
::: Pat
:::
::
::
:: --
:: 223/173.4/180

Hehe.

Thanks folks 🙂

Pat

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Ignoramus13790 wrote:
:: Foods made out of space age chemicals that are designed to resemble
:: regular junk food and grain products.

Hey - regular junk food and highly processed foods are frankenfoods, too.

::
:: i
::
:: On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:07:29 -0700, Pat Rasmussen
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::: I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.
:::
::: What is that?
:::
::: Pat
:::
::
::
:: --
:: 223/173.4/180

It's a fairly meaningless term that some people use to slam whatever
food they think everyone should totally avoid because of what it
contains and or how it's made.

"Pat Rasmussen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.

What is that?

Pat

The way I understand it, there are two very different camps and ways of
thinking about low-carb dieting. Some, and I'm one of these, think that
low-carb dieting involves eathing only those food that were originally
prescribed by Dr. Atkins, et al. Since the low-carb lifestyle became
popular, food manufacturers have found ways to offer almost anything as a
low-carb alternative. So you can get low-carb ice-cream, pizza, lasagna,
and so forth.

Some will eat those foods and have success, others won't. Many of us won't
even try them. Those of us who live on fresh veggies and meats refer to the
low-carb substitutes as "frankenfoods". I will not personally say that
anything is wrong with them, it's just not something I want in my fridge.

Actually it is pretty much all pre-manufactured, pre-packaged foods. Look at
the ingredients on a bag of doritos or package of hamburger helper.
It reads like a bad college chemsitry lab experiment gone awry!

"Pat Rasmussen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.

What is that?

Pat

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:37:41 -0600, "Jim Bard" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

Thanks!

Pat

Quoted message said:

"Pat Rasmussen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.

What is that?

Pat

The way I understand it, there are two very different camps and ways of
thinking about low-carb dieting. Some, and I'm one of these, think that
low-carb dieting involves eathing only those food that were originally
prescribed by Dr. Atkins, et al. Since the low-carb lifestyle became
popular, food manufacturers have found ways to offer almost anything as a
low-carb alternative. So you can get low-carb ice-cream, pizza, lasagna,
and so forth.

Some will eat those foods and have success, others won't. Many of us won't
even try them. Those of us who live on fresh veggies and meats refer to the
low-carb substitutes as "frankenfoods". I will not personally say that
anything is wrong with them, it's just not something I want in my fridge.

I thought frankenfoods were things that had been re-manufactured from their
original formula to be made into a substitute for the "real" food so as be
to allowed on a particular eating plan, whether it be low-fat, low-carb,
etc.
Examples are chocolate bars or ice cream using sugar alcohols instead of
sugar; "potato" chips using soy instead of potatoes; bread using soy
instead of grains; etc.

John Smyth said:

Actually it is pretty much all pre-manufactured, pre-packaged foods. Look at
the ingredients on a bag of doritos or package of hamburger helper.
It reads like a bad college chemsitry lab experiment gone awry!

-----
Bev

"Jim Bard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Pat Rasmussen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.

What is that?

Pat

The way I understand it, there are two very different camps and ways of
thinking about low-carb dieting. Some, and I'm one of these, think that
low-carb dieting involves eathing only those food that were originally
prescribed by Dr. Atkins, et al. Since the low-carb lifestyle became
popular, food manufacturers have found ways to offer almost anything as a
low-carb alternative. So you can get low-carb ice-cream, pizza, lasagna,
and so forth.

Some will eat those foods and have success, others won't. Many of us won't
even try them. Those of us who live on fresh veggies and meats refer to the
low-carb substitutes as "frankenfoods". I will not personally say that
anything is wrong with them, it's just not something I want in my fridge.

Atkins didn't really prescribe foods. He just used what was available
at the time, which included products like artificial sweetners, which
are about as unnatural as you can get. I find it hard to rationalize
that simply because a new food product comes out that didn't exist
prior to Atkins death, that makes it something to be avoided and
called a frankenfood. A good example is Hood LC milk. Bascily, they
took out the sugars and added in Splenda. I think it very likely
Atkins would have not only used such a product, but welcomed it.

And if you want to take the view that only foods specifically ok'd by
Atkins are to be used, then what about products like the Atkins shakes
and LC bars? They were around for a long time prior to Atkins death,
he clearly endorsed those. Yet people here routinely refer to those
as frankenfoods too and I doubt you use them.

Jim Bard said:

The way I understand it, there are two very different camps and ways of
thinking about low-carb dieting. Some, and I'm one of these, think that
low-carb dieting involves eathing only those food that were originally
prescribed by Dr. Atkins, et al. Since the low-carb lifestyle became
popular, food manufacturers have found ways to offer almost anything as a
low-carb alternative. So you can get low-carb ice-cream, pizza, lasagna,
and so forth.

Some will eat those foods and have success, others won't. Many of us won't
even try them. Those of us who live on fresh veggies and meats refer to the
low-carb substitutes as "frankenfoods". I will not personally say that
anything is wrong with them, it's just not something I want in my fridge.

Being a 48 year old man and after 100 pounds lost (and about 30 more
to go) on a low carb lifestyle, The only "packaged as low-carb" foods
I ever eat is the chocolate ice-cream. And even with that, I see my
keto levels change.

I have been working at this for almost 2 years now. I am as healthier
than I have ever been in my life, and my sex life is better than ever
(ok you all probably did not need to read that)

Low carb was my salvation. But as a life style, not a diet. that's
the only way (IMHO) that it will work.

Bob

Pat Rasmussen said:

I've seen reference to the term Franken foods alot here.

What is that?

Pat

You may as well have gone and asked for a definition of vegetarian.

Actually the original 'Frankin Foods' are genetically altered to give them
more of something: Flavor, resistant to strains of molds, rot, bugs, more
fruit, better climate stability etc.

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I thought frankenfoods were things that had been re-manufactured from their
original formula to be made into a substitute for the "real" food so as be
to allowed on a particular eating plan, whether it be low-fat, low-carb,
etc.
Examples are chocolate bars or ice cream using sugar alcohols instead of
sugar; "potato" chips using soy instead of potatoes; bread using soy
instead of grains; etc.

John Smyth said:

Actually it is pretty much all pre-manufactured, pre-packaged foods. Look
at
the ingredients on a bag of doritos or package of hamburger helper.
It reads like a bad college chemsitry lab experiment gone awry!

-----
Bev

But is that the definition that people have been using on this NG?

John Smyth said:

Actually the original 'Frankin Foods' are genetically altered to give them
more of something: Flavor, resistant to strains of molds, rot, bugs, more
fruit, better climate stability etc.

-----
Bev

Bev-Ann wrote:
|| But is that the definition that people have been using on this NG?
||

No, but curiously enough, almost all of the Frankenfoods discussed here are
so engineered.

|| on Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:03:27 -0800, "John Smyth"
|| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| Actually the original 'Frankin Foods' are genetically altered to
||| give them more of something: Flavor, resistant to strains of molds,
||| rot, bugs, more fruit, better climate stability etc.
||
|| -----
|| Bev

I think everyone who uses it has their own definition.

In news:[email hidden],
Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
| But is that the definition that people have been using on this NG?
|
| on Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:03:27 -0800, "John Smyth"
| <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
|| Actually the original 'Frankin Foods' are genetically altered to
|| give them more of something: Flavor, resistant to strains of molds,
|| rot, bugs, more fruit, better climate stability etc.
|
| -----
| Bev

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Bev-Ann wrote:
|| But is that the definition that people have been using on this NG?
||

No, but curiously enough, almost all of the Frankenfoods discussed here are
so engineered.

|| on Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:03:27 -0800, "John Smyth"
|| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| Actually the original 'Frankin Foods' are genetically altered to
||| give them more of something: Flavor, resistant to strains of molds,
||| rot, bugs, more fruit, better climate stability etc.
||
|| -----
|| Bev

I don't think it's true that almost all of what people here refer to
as Frankenfoods are geneticaly engineered. For example, I see people
bash things like the Atkins bars and candy, LC ice cream, shakes,
bread, etc, by calling them Frankenfoods. There's no reason to
believe any of these contain genetically altered components, certainly
no more so than any other off the shelf food product. They do have
various amounts of food additives, like many other commercial
products, whether LC or not.