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  1. http://www.welcome-to-china.com/biz/fyi/72p.htm

    http://english.people.com.cn/200410/13/eng20041013_160062.html

    http://www.medforum.nl/reviews/diabetes_and_obisity.htm

    Coca-colonization
    'Globalization' and 'Coca-colonization' are having profound effects on
    health worldwide. We face a huge public health challenge from both
    Type 2 diabetes and obesity, from childhood through to old age.
    Obesity has reached epidemic proportions globally. The situation is
    worsening. In Europe, USA and Australia, the prevalence is high and
    increasing. Over 60% of the adult population of the USA and Australia
    is either overweight (BMI 25–29.9) or obese (BMI > 30). Over 20% of
    adults fall into this latter category. In some developing countries as
    well as among disadvantaged groups in developed countries, e.g.
    Mexican-Americans, Afro-Americans, Native Canadians and Australian
    Aborigines, an even more extreme situation exists. Generalized and
    abdominal adiposity, and physical inactivity are independent risk
    factors for Type 2 diabetes and impaired glucose tolerance.

    Epidemic obesity
    Epidemic obesity with some of the highest prevalence in the world
    exists in these populations, e.g. 70% of Samoans have a BMI in excess
    of 30. In both Samoa and Mauritius, two populations where longitudinal
    data are available, there have been dramatic increases in prevalence
    over relatively short time periods (Figure 1). Similar trends have
    been noted in American Pima Indians, Australian Aborigines, migrant
    Asian Indians and Mexican-Americans.
    Coincident with the high rates of obesity, the prevalence of Type 2
    diabetes is also escalating. This increase is expected to continue,
    and recent projections show that there are currently 120 million
    people worldwide with Type 2 diabetes, and by the year 2010, this
    figure is expected to climb to well over 230 million. This represents
    an epidemic of major proportions. The majority of the new cases will
    be those with Type 2 diabetes and the majority of these will be in
    China, the Indian subcontinent and Africa. We estimate that from 65
    million cases of Type 2 diabetes in Asia and Oceania in 1995, the
    number will double to 135 million by 2010. Some of the highest
    recorded rates of Type 2 diabetes are found in the Pacific Islands
    with 1 in 3 adults affected in a number of countries. A major concern
    here is the growing socio-economic burden of cardiovascular disease,
    blindness, renal failure and amputations resulting from the diabetes
    epidemic. Obesity and Type 2 diabetes represent just two constituents
    of the Metabolic Syndrome, a cluster of cardiovascular disease risk
    factors also described as ‘The New World Syndrome'. Sooner, rather
    than later, serious morbidity and mortality from cardiovascular
    disease is inevitable.

    Type 2 in the young
    Another issue of major concern is that Type 2 diabetes has generally
    been believed to be rare in children, adolescents and young adults.
    Not so any longer! An important and alarming feature of the diabetes
    epidemic is that Type 2 diabetes is increasing in these younger age
    groups. This poses significant problems as the safety of therapies
    used in Type 2 diabetes, apart from insulin, has not been tested in
    this age group. Obesity has been implicated in this trend in Afro- and
    Mexican-Americans and Pacific Islanders.

    ****

    TC

  2. From the health survey link in china:

    " The study showed that as the world's most populous country had made
    progress in reducing poverty in the past few decades, its people were
    now facing new health issues, arising largely from an increasingly
    fatty diet."

    snip

    " prevalence of diabetes among adults over the age of 20 in big cities
    has increased from 4.6 percent to 6.4 percent.

    Some Chinese people were consuming an excessive amount of meat, oils
    and fats and not enough cereal, especially urban residents."

  3. Most Agreed.

    Read my rant on Sugar here:

    http://www.mission-thin-possible.com/page1.html

    Bill.

    tcomeau said:

    http://www.welcome-to-china.com/biz/fyi/72p.htm

    http://english.people.com.cn/200410/13/eng20041013_160062.html

    http://www.medforum.nl/reviews/diabetes_and_obisity.htm

    Coca-colonization
    'Globalization' and 'Coca-colonization' are having profound effects on
    health worldwide. We face a huge public health challenge from both
    Type 2 diabetes and obesity, from childhood through to old age.
    Obesity has reached epidemic proportions globally. The situation is
    worsening. In Europe, USA and Australia, the prevalence is high and
    increasing. Over 60% of the adult population of the USA and Australia
    is either overweight (BMI 25–29.9) or obese (BMI > 30). Over 20% of
    adults fall into this latter category. In some developing countries as
    well as among disadvantaged groups in developed countries, e.g.

    --
    Free Nutrition and Weight Loss Information:

    http://www.mission-thin-possible.com

  4. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    From the health survey link in china:

    " The study showed that as the world's most populous country had made
    progress in reducing poverty in the past few decades, its people were
    now facing new health issues, arising largely from an increasingly
    fatty diet."

    snip

    " prevalence of diabetes among adults over the age of 20 in big cities
    has increased from 4.6 percent to 6.4 percent.

    Some Chinese people were consuming an excessive amount of meat, oils
    and fats and not enough cereal, especially urban residents."

    Yes that is right. Highly polyunsaturated vegetable oils and
    hydrogenated vegetable shortenings are the major cause of modern
    degenerative diseases. You might want to point that out next time you
    quote a ridiculous generalization like "increasingly fatty diet". You
    should also mention that populations that eat meat and healthy
    fats(coconut, butter, olive oil) and do not eat any of the dangerous
    fats there arent any of these health problems. Or maybe you just like
    spreading disinformation without clearing up important facts about
    misleading statements like those above?

  5. "Wolfbrother" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes that is right. Highly polyunsaturated vegetable oils and


    hydrogenated vegetable shortenings are the major cause of modern
    degenerative diseases. You might want to point that out next time you
    quote a ridiculous generalization like "increasingly fatty diet". You
    should also mention that populations that eat meat and healthy
    fats(coconut, butter, olive oil) and do not eat any of the dangerous

    The coconut freak is back. You are the guy, enough said.

    Quoted message said:

    fats there arent any of these health problems. Or maybe you just like
    spreading disinformation without clearing up important facts about
    misleading statements like those above?

  6. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    From the health survey link in china:

    " The study showed that as the world's most populous country had made
    progress in reducing poverty in the past few decades, its people were
    now facing new health issues, arising largely from an increasingly
    fatty diet."

    snip

    " prevalence of diabetes among adults over the age of 20 in big cities
    has increased from 4.6 percent to 6.4 percent.

    Some Chinese people were consuming an excessive amount of meat, oils
    and fats and not enough cereal, especially urban residents."

    Ok?... and soft drinks and other refined carbs have absolutely nothing
    to do with it..... rrrriiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhT!

    TC

  7. On 9 Nov 2004 06:55:25 -0800, [email hidden] (tcomeau) posted:

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    From the health survey link in china:

    " The study showed that as the world's most populous country had made
    progress in reducing poverty in the past few decades, its people were
    now facing new health issues, arising largely from an increasingly
    fatty diet."

    snip

    " prevalence of diabetes among adults over the age of 20 in big cities
    has increased from 4.6 percent to 6.4 percent.

    Some Chinese people were consuming an excessive amount of meat, oils
    and fats and not enough cereal, especially urban residents."

    Ok?... and soft drinks and other refined carbs have absolutely nothing
    to do with it..... rrrriiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhT!

    The point you don't seem to follow (perhaps from your persistent
    misunderstanding of energy balance in the human body) is that ANY
    foods in excess cause obesity, which in turn causes diebetes (so long
    as the genetic predidposition is present.)

  8. On 8 Nov 2004 19:32:27 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
    posted:

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    From the health survey link in china:

    " The study showed that as the world's most populous country had made
    progress in reducing poverty in the past few decades, its people were
    now facing new health issues, arising largely from an increasingly
    fatty diet."

    snip

    " prevalence of diabetes among adults over the age of 20 in big cities
    has increased from 4.6 percent to 6.4 percent.

    Some Chinese people were consuming an excessive amount of meat, oils
    and fats and not enough cereal, especially urban residents."

    Yes that is right. Highly polyunsaturated vegetable oils and
    hydrogenated vegetable shortenings are the major cause of modern
    degenerative diseases. You might want to point that out next time you
    quote a ridiculous generalization like "increasingly fatty diet". You
    should also mention that populations that eat meat and healthy
    fats(coconut, butter, olive oil) and do not eat any of the dangerous
    fats there arent any of these health problems. Or maybe you just like
    spreading disinformation without clearing up important facts about
    misleading statements like those above?

    Doesn't matter much what you eat, except if you eat too much...

  9. Dunne E. Dawe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 9 Nov 2004 06:55:25 -0800, [email hidden] (tcomeau) posted:

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    From the health survey link in china:

    " The study showed that as the world's most populous country had made
    progress in reducing poverty in the past few decades, its people were
    now facing new health issues, arising largely from an increasingly
    fatty diet."

    snip

    " prevalence of diabetes among adults over the age of 20 in big cities
    has increased from 4.6 percent to 6.4 percent.

    Some Chinese people were consuming an excessive amount of meat, oils
    and fats and not enough cereal, especially urban residents."

    Ok?... and soft drinks and other refined carbs have absolutely nothing
    to do with it..... rrrriiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhT!

    The point you don't seem to follow (perhaps from your persistent
    misunderstanding of energy balance in the human body) is that ANY
    foods in excess cause obesity, which in turn causes diebetes (so long
    as the genetic predidposition is present.)

    Perhaps you would like to show us the definitive study or specific
    research that actually scientifically proved your assertion.

    Good luck.

    TC

  10. Dunne E. Dawe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 9 Nov 2004 06:55:25 -0800, [email hidden] (tcomeau) posted:

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    From the health survey link in china:

    " The study showed that as the world's most populous country had made
    progress in reducing poverty in the past few decades, its people were
    now facing new health issues, arising largely from an increasingly
    fatty diet."

    snip

    " prevalence of diabetes among adults over the age of 20 in big cities
    has increased from 4.6 percent to 6.4 percent.

    Some Chinese people were consuming an excessive amount of meat, oils
    and fats and not enough cereal, especially urban residents."

    Ok?... and soft drinks and other refined carbs have absolutely nothing
    to do with it..... rrrriiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhT!

    The point you don't seem to follow (perhaps from your persistent
    misunderstanding of energy balance in the human body) is that ANY
    foods in excess cause obesity, which in turn causes diebetes (so long
    as the genetic predidposition is present.)

    Perhaps you would like to show us the definitive study or specific
    research that actually scientifically proved your assertion.

    Good luck.

    TC

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