Bashing large chainring

Oh BTW, what measurements do I need to take if I order a bash ring? I know I will need to
count teeth.

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Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into the rocks yesterday. The
large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the many small boulders I encountered. Fortunately, the
chain still grips to the ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the chainring
teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have this problem
(ie am I doing something wrong or

does

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my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought about buying one and swapping it in/out
with my normal

chain

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ring depending on where I am going to ride. Also, is it better to get a bash ring and swap it out,
or get a chain ring guard, which I assume will lower my clearance even further (but not require me
to swap it out constantly).

Quoted message said:

Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into the rocks yesterday. The
large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the many small boulders I encountered. Fortunately, the
chain still grips to the ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the chainring
teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have this problem
(ie am I doing something wrong or

does

Quoted message said:

my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought about buying one and swapping it in/out
with my normal

chain

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ring depending on where I am going to ride. Also, is it better to get a bash ring and swap it out,
or get a chain ring guard, which I assume will lower my clearance even further (but not require me
to swap it out constantly).

Proper technique will allow you to cross obstacles without touching the chainring. It involves
popping the front wheel up on the obstacle, then throwing your weight forward to pop the rear wheel
up. Ride with some more experienced riders and watch how they do it. It's definitely a necessary
skill to learn.

Inevitably though, the large chainring ends up being the bash ring by default. They will still work
even with a huge flat spot since the chain has so many other teeth to use. They're only usually used
for road transport anyway. I've taco'ed mine twice (as in teeth bent out 90 degrees), hammered it
back and it still works fine.

TacomaBoy <[email hidden]> spoke thusly...

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Oh BTW, what measurements do I need to take if I order a bash ring? I know I will need to
count teeth.

"TacomaBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into the rocks yesterday. The
large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the many small boulders I encountered. Fortunately,
the chain still grips to the ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the
chainring teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have
this problem (ie am I doing something wrong or

does

Quoted message said:

my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought about buying one and swapping it in/out
with my normal

chain

Quoted message said:

ring depending on where I am going to ride. Also, is it better to get a bash ring and swap it
out, or get a chain ring guard, which I assume will lower my clearance even further (but not
require me to swap it out constantly).

I thought you had to take the big ring off to put a bash ring on?
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~Travis

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John Harlow <[email hidden]> spoke thusly...

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Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into the rocks yesterday. The
large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the many small boulders I encountered. Fortunately,
the chain still grips to the ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the
chainring teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have
this problem (ie am I doing something wrong or

does

Quoted message said:

my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought about buying one and swapping it in/out
with my normal

chain

Quoted message said:

ring depending on where I am going to ride. Also, is it better to get a bash ring and swap it
out, or get a chain ring guard, which I assume will lower my clearance even further (but not
require me to swap it out constantly).

Proper technique will allow you to cross obstacles without touching the chainring. It involves
popping the front wheel up on the obstacle, then throwing your weight forward to pop the rear
wheel up. Ride with some more experienced riders and watch how they do it. It's definitely a
necessary skill to learn.

Inevitably though, the large chainring ends up being the bash ring by default. They will still
work even with a huge flat spot since the chain has so many other teeth to use. They're only
usually used for road transport anyway. I've taco'ed mine twice (as in teeth bent out 90 degrees),
hammered it back and it still works fine.

"They're only usually used for road transport anyway"

right, i use mine quite a bit on trails. flats, and on some shallow climbs. so i guess that makes me
unusual. ;-)
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~Travis

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TacomaBoy <[email hidden]> spoke thusly...

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Oh BTW, what measurements do I need to take if I order a bash ring? I

know

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I will need to count teeth.

"TacomaBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into

the

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rocks yesterday. The large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the

many

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small boulders I encountered. Fortunately, the chain still grips to

the

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ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the

chainring

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teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have this
problem (ie am I doing something wrong or

does

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my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought about buying one and swapping it in/out
with my normal

chain

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ring depending on where I am going to ride. Also, is it better to get

a

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bash ring and swap it out, or get a chain ring guard, which I assume

will

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lower my clearance even further (but not require me to swap it out constantly).

It looks like there are two types of bash rings, one that goes next to the large ring, but has a
slightly bigger diameter, and one that replaces the chain ring.

John Harlow said:

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Proper technique will allow you to cross obstacles without touching the chainring.

In some places perhaps. Around here, we got's ledges in bushels. I bach my chainring going up and
down. Scraping a chainring on a ledges whilst going down it is a supremely uncomfortable feeling.

I make my own bashrings out of big chainrings, and I do it while riding ;*)

anthonysloan.comnrscring.jpgOpen ↗

Tacomaboy, There's a dud ethat posts on the mojo board named Bruzed who makes a bashguard called a
City Park Condom. They are cheap and effective.

A

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Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into the rocks yesterday. The
large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the many small boulders I encountered. Fortunately, the
chain still grips to the ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the chainring
teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have this problem
(ie am I doing something wrong or does my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought
about buying one and swapping it in/out with my normal chain ring depending on where I am going to
ride. Also, is it better to get a bash ring and swap it out, or get a chain ring guard, which I
assume will lower my clearance even further (but not require me to swap it out constantly).

The big ring is the bash ring as far as I'm concerned but if you want a big ring bash guard then all
you ned to know is the number of teeth the rng has and the bolt pattern. In this case you need a
104mm BDC 4 bolt guard for 42-44T rings. If you want to just get the bash guard that replaces the
big ring then you need 104mm BCD 4 bolt there also.
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-online.comramsays-online.comOpen ↗

"TacomaBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into the rocks yesterday. The
large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the many small boulders I encountered. Fortunately, the
chain still grips to the ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the chainring
teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have this problem
(ie am I doing something wrong or

does

Quoted message said:

my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought about buying one and swapping it in/out
with my normal

chain

Quoted message said:

ring depending on where I am going to ride. Also, is it better to get a bash ring and swap it out,
or get a chain ring guard, which I assume will lower my clearance even further (but not require me
to swap it out constantly).

I've used Rock Rings and now Black Spire's Ring God. Even if it's only trees I got sick of
warping the big rings when it was used to propell the bike over a big obstacle. I rode my new
bike once before losing teeth to some rocks. In some technical riding there's just no way you can
miss them all.

I don't remember have to count teeth so much as you need to specify the BCD. 4 bolt or 5 bolt. The
new Shimano should be the 4 bolt 104mm BCD. Check out blackspire.comprod cguard.htmlOpen ↗

Given the I do use the big ring frequently I chose to use the one that adds on outside the big ring.
It does not reduce clearance more than an extra 2mm (maybe). Swapping out the big ring v.s. the bash
guard would be way too much work. I would predict that you'd have the bash guard on when you need
the big ring and the big ring on when you need the bash guard. Kind of defeats the purpose.

Rob S

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Now THAT is bike [censored]!

Bill "if I weren't five months and 3 days smoke free..." S.

TacomaBoy said:

Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into the rocks yesterday. The
large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the many small boulders I encountered. Fortunately, the
chain still grips to the ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the chainring
teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have this problem
(ie am I doing something wrong or does my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought
about buying one and swapping it in/out with my normal chain ring depending on where I am going to
ride. Also, is it better to get a bash ring and swap it out, or get a chain ring guard, which I
assume will lower my clearance even further (but not require me to swap it out constantly).

I used to go through big chainrings a lot faster than I should. I put a tooth fairy on and now my
big chainrings last forever and the tooth fairy has the scars to prove it 🙂.

I highly recommend the tooth fairy. I haven't used any of the others, but I like still having my
large chainring.

David

Around here we loose the third ring for a ring that protects the 2nd one and you get a bit more
clearance.

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TacomaBoy said:

Just got my new Deore crank/chainring set installed and took it into the rocks yesterday. The
large aluminum ring crunched nicely along the many small boulders I encountered. Fortunately,
the chain still grips to the ring, but it looks like someone took a grinder to some of the
chainring teeth. My question is this... do most of you use bash rings? Do most of you not have
this problem (ie am I doing something wrong or

does

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

my bike have abnormally low clearance). I have thought about buying one and swapping it in/out
with my normal

chain

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ring depending on where I am going to ride. Also, is it better to get a bash ring and swap it
out, or get a chain ring guard, which I assume

will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lower my clearance even further (but not require me to swap it out constantly).

I used to go through big chainrings a lot faster than I should. I put a tooth fairy on and now my
big chainrings last forever and the tooth fairy has the scars to prove it 🙂.

I highly recommend the tooth fairy. I haven't used any of the others, but I like still having my
large chainring.

David

Stephen Baker <[email hidden]> spoke thusly...

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bugboy t-p'ed:

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Around here we loose the third ring for a ring that protects the 2nd one and you get a bit more
clearance.

Down here I just use the (steel) big ring as a bash ring. Didn't use the thing much anyway....

Steve

Am i the only person to use the big ring much on the trails?
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Stephen Baker <[email hidden]> spoke thusly...

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bugboy t-p'ed:

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Around here we loose the third ring for a ring that protects the 2nd

one and

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you get a bit more clearance.

Down here I just use the (steel) big ring as a bash ring. Didn't use

the thing

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much anyway....

Steve

Am i the only person to use the big ring much on the trails?
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~Travis

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The rest of us just like our knees.

I use it on fireroads, or when racing. However, I'm definitely in the Hampster Wheel camp... spin
spin spin spin spin spin!

Jon Bond

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Stephen Baker <[email hidden]> spoke thusly...

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bugboy t-p'ed:

>Around here we loose the third ring for a ring that protects the 2nd

one and

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>you get a bit more clearance.
>

Down here I just use the (steel) big ring as a bash ring. Didn't use

the thing

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much anyway....

Steve

Am i the only person to use the big ring much on the trails?
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~Travis

travis57 at megalink dot net megalink.net~farmersOpen ↗

The rest of us just like our knees.

I use it on fireroads, or when racing. However, I'm definitely in the Hampster Wheel camp... spin
spin spin spin spin spin!

Jon Bond

Yeah, see, that's the difference. my legs are built for power, whereas your (and most others) are
built for speed. I doubt no matter how hard i try i could get a "normal" speed cadence anymore. I
just end up spinning out and my feet slip off the pedals. though i did file some nice teeth into the
pedals so my feet don't slip when they are wet. i imagine they could be hell should skin come in
contact with them in a crash, but i don't crash very often, and when i do, the bike and me seem to
part ways rather quickly. i'm not one of those folks that hold on a death grip and ride it into the
ground. i learned back when i had a dirt bike that it is safer to separate from the bike to minimize
damage from entanglement.

hmm, went off on a tangent again... (can you tell i have A.D.D.?)

But back on subject, my knees don't bother, except for when i spin too fast. maybe i am just
destined to be a power rider that's able to explode in a feat of power that could snap a chain with
minimal effort and muscle up a climb... for a few minutes anyway, then i'm dead. maybe i am just
simply destined for the singlespeed crowd.

Funny, i just thought of my chain. it is 114 links i think, and i know at least 37 of the links are
master links (useful for a quick chain fix). at least now i have a chain-tool (came on my nifty
Topeak Hummer) so no more ripping a busted outer plate link off with a leatherman.

Given that the rear freewheel cluster and front chainrings are fairly new (aka, show little signs of
wear, other than some rock bash marks on the big ring), it would be a good time to install a new
chain before it is too late and i need a new drivetrain.

Found an ad for a computer tech job at some school district. paper gives, like, no information about
it so i though i would stop in and check it out. may be worth a shot. maybe if i lightly pad my
resume a bit. needs updating anyway.
--
~Travis

travis57 at megalink dot net megalink.net~farmersOpen ↗

Technician said:

Am i the only person to use the big ring much on the trails?

I don't even have one on my MTB took it off and replaced it w/ a basher:
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On the SS I installed a basher to protect my only ring:
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Forget converting to a SS.

Yes you need huge power to get up the climbs but...

to keep up with geared riders you need to be able to spin like a hamster on speed.

I find it much harder to keep up with geared riders on the flat on my SS not uphill or even downhil
(off-road).

If the geared riders are in their granny rings and you have given up on riding up a hill you can
push up as fast as they are riding anyway.

Justin

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Jon Bond <[email hidden]> spoke thusly...

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Stephen Baker <[email hidden]> spoke thusly...
> bugboy t-p'ed:
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> >Around here we loose the third ring for a ring that protects the

2nd

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one and

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> >you get a bit more clearance.
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> Down here I just use the (steel) big ring as a bash ring. Didn't

use

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the thing

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> much anyway....
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> Steve
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Am i the only person to use the big ring much on the trails?
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~Travis

travis57 at megalink dot net megalink.net~farmersOpen ↗

The rest of us just like our knees.

I use it on fireroads, or when racing. However, I'm definitely in the Hampster Wheel camp...
spin spin spin spin spin spin!

Jon Bond

Yeah, see, that's the difference. my legs are built for power, whereas your (and most others) are
built for speed. I doubt no matter how hard i try i could get a "normal" speed cadence anymore. I
just end up spinning out and my feet slip off the pedals. though i did file some nice teeth into
the pedals so my feet don't slip when they are wet. i imagine they could be hell should skin come
in contact with them in a crash, but i don't crash very often, and when i do, the bike and me seem
to part ways rather quickly. i'm not one of those folks that hold on a death grip and ride it into
the ground. i learned back when i had a dirt bike that it is safer to separate from the bike to
minimize damage from entanglement.

hmm, went off on a tangent again... (can you tell i have A.D.D.?)

But back on subject, my knees don't bother, except for when i spin too fast. maybe i am just
destined to be a power rider that's able to explode in a feat of power that could snap a chain
with minimal effort and muscle up a climb... for a few minutes anyway, then i'm dead. maybe i am
just simply destined for the singlespeed crowd.

Funny, i just thought of my chain. it is 114 links i think, and i know at least 37 of the links
are master links (useful for a quick chain fix). at least now i have a chain-tool (came on my
nifty Topeak Hummer) so no more ripping a busted outer plate link off with a leatherman.

Given that the rear freewheel cluster and front chainrings are fairly new (aka, show little signs
of wear, other than some rock bash marks on the big ring), it would be a good time to install a
new chain before it is too late and i need a new drivetrain.

Found an ad for a computer tech job at some school district. paper gives, like, no information
about it so i though i would stop in and check it out. may be worth a shot. maybe if i lightly pad
my resume a bit. needs updating anyway.
--
~Travis

travis57 at megalink dot net megalink.net~farmersOpen ↗