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  1. Ok I am new to road bikes, so my question might sound a little silly, but
    please give us a fair go.

    Ok I have noticed on my new road bike that the Valve stem on the rear tyre
    is shorter than the one on the front, is this normal ?

    Secondly, I am a heavy weight at 85kg's, and I like to keep my tyres
    inflated to around 120kpi's as advised by my bike shop.

    Ok I bought a good quality foot pump Serfras Brand.

    I try to keep my tyres at around 120, however when I put the pump on the
    stem, and start pumping at around 110, its keeps shooting off the stem, why
    ??

    Also with the presta valve, should I undo it a little , give it a tap to
    break the seal, then pump it up ? is this the correct way ?

    Thanks guys for any answers, even though to you seasoned pro's these
    questions might sound silly,

    Thanks again.

  2. "Paul Green" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Ok I have noticed on my new road bike that the Valve stem on the rear tyre
    is shorter than the one on the front, is this normal ?

    Tubes are available with diff. length stems for different
    depth rims. Try to match them if you can, but I've never
    bothered.

    Quoted message said:

    Secondly, I am a heavy weight at 85kg's, and I like to

    Keep trying... 100 hydrated kilos here buckaroo! ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    I try to keep my tyres at around 120, however when I put the pump on the
    stem, and start pumping at around 110, its keeps shooting off the stem,


    why

    Quoted message said:

    ??

    Is it a clip on one, a thread on one, push on?? What?
    Possible solution - push harder and hold it on.

    Quoted message said:

    Also with the presta valve, should I undo it a little , give it a tap to
    break the seal, then pump it up ? is this the correct way ?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks guys for any answers, even though to you seasoned pro's these
    questions might sound silly,

    Not at all. But then I am no 'seasoned pro'. Maybe a
    little salt and pepper?

    hippy still at work :-(

  3. Paul Green said:

    Ok I have noticed on my new road bike that the Valve stem on the rear tyre
    is shorter than the one on the front, is this normal ?

    No more or less normal than if your left toe is longer than your right toe.
    It doesn't matter, it could be the base of the "shorter" stem is not seated
    against the rim completely.

    Quoted message said:

    Secondly, I am a heavy weight at 85kg's, and I like to keep my tyres
    inflated to around 120kpi's as advised by my bike shop.

    As long as the tubes and tyres are rated to 120, that should be fine.

    Quoted message said:

    Ok I bought a good quality foot pump Serfras Brand.

    Quoted message said:

    I try to keep my tyres at around 120, however when I put the pump on the
    stem, and start pumping at around 110, its keeps shooting off the stem, why
    ??

    Some pumps are dual-purpose presta/schrader valve setup. Perhaps your pump
    is currently set up for schrader while you're trying to use it with presta valves.
    Your pump should have come with instructions on how to swap between the two.

    Quoted message said:

    Also with the presta valve, should I undo it a little , give it a tap to
    break the seal, then pump it up ? is this the correct way ?

    I normally undo it all the way, and then give it a tap, because sometimes, I
    otherwise need a good forceful pump to 'break' the seal on the first stroke.

    I'm really not sure how often this is a problem for me anymore, because I've
    been doing it out of habit for a long time.

    --
    Linux Registered User # 302622 <http://counter.li.org>

  4. Paul Green said:

    Ok I am new to road bikes, so my question might sound a little silly, but
    please give us a fair go.

    Ok I have noticed on my new road bike that the Valve stem on the rear tyre
    is shorter than the one on the front, is this normal ?

    Secondly, I am a heavy weight at 85kg's, and I like to keep my tyres
    inflated to around 120kpi's as advised by my bike shop.

    Ok I bought a good quality foot pump Serfras Brand.

    I try to keep my tyres at around 120, however when I put the pump on the
    stem, and start pumping at around 110, its keeps shooting off the stem, why
    ??

    Also with the presta valve, should I undo it a little , give it a tap to
    break the seal, then pump it up ? is this the correct way ?

    Thanks guys for any answers, even though to you seasoned pro's these
    questions might sound silly,

    Thanks again.

    No, I'm sorry, you're suffering from SHRINKING VALVE STEM SYNDROME and should take it to your local branch of Bob's Bicycles AS SOON AS POSSIBLE and have them do a valvectomy on the wheel. The screams are hard to bear if you do it yourself.

    Secondly, kpi's are an old and outdated form of pressure measurement, not much favoured by us "seasoned pros" any more, due to fact that the Kangaroos are quite loath to remain on the specified Inch whist the pressure is checked, having an inbred racial memory of unpleasant exploding sensations when they were unskillfully utilised in the past for such purposes.

    Thirdly, it may appear to be a tap on a valve nut to us, but to the valve, proportionally, it would feel like having a piano dropped on it. So be kind to your hard-working valve nuts, and PRESS them, and they will reward you with many kilometres of unwavering and faithful service.

    Fourthly, the Serfas pump you have bought obviously has deep issues with certain brands of valves. It is equivalent to racism in humans. You must educate it that Continental valves, even tho' they have replaceable inners, are just as worthy as Vredestien, or even Cheng Shin valvestems, and that it should see each one as having a role to play in the Great Whole that is Inflation. It may be hard work, but in the end, it is worth it.

    😉

    Seriously, there are 3 or 4 lengths of valvestem - one is appropriate for your rim. Just enough sticking out for a pump chuck to grab onto, not enough to rattle around too much. Don't get stressed - just change it for the appropriate length when you have your next puncture.

    You're right about the valves. Break the seal before attempting to inflate with a small tap (or press 😉 )

    Check the rubber in the pump chuck (bit which grabs the valves) for fraying/displacement. You may be able to tighten the collar holding the rubber in the chuck for a better grip. Make sure you have the lever on the chuck in the right position when pumping (refer instructions/knowledgeable "seasoned pro" ). A lot of pumps have this prob. Get a friend to hold the chuck on whilst pumping if necessary.

    Hope the second bit helps

    M"pounds/KiloPascals/Bar - the last sounds a bit saucy vis a vis pumping" H

  5. "Paul Green" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Ok I am new to road bikes, so my question might sound a little silly, but
    please give us a fair go.

    Ok I have noticed on my new road bike that the Valve stem on the rear tyre
    is shorter than the one on the front, is this normal ?

    No great concern, except for looks.

    Quoted message said:


    Secondly, I am a heavy weight at 85kg's, and I like to keep my tyres
    inflated to around 120kpi's as advised by my bike shop.

    About right

    Quoted message said:

    I try to keep my tyres at around 120, however when I put the pump on the
    stem, and start pumping at around 110, its keeps shooting off the stem,


    why

    Quoted message said:

    ??

    If you have a push-on or lever-operated connector you may be able to screw
    the knurled connector head together a bit tighter. Inside it is a big rubber
    washer that seals the valve. By squashing it down it will form a tighter
    seal on your valve stem.

    Quoted message said:

    Also with the presta valve, should I undo it a little , give it a tap to
    break the seal, then pump it up ? is this the correct way ?

    Normally the correct way to do it. After a length of time the closed valve
    will get stuck and it can take a lot of pmp pressure to break it open.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks guys for any answers, even though to you seasoned pro's these
    questions might sound silly,

    No worries, it's the only way to learn all the tricks.

    Cheers
    Peter

  6. "Paul Green" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok I am new to road bikes, so my question might sound a little silly, but
    please give us a fair go.

    Ok I have noticed on my new road bike that the Valve stem on the rear tyre
    is shorter than the one on the front, is this normal ?

    Secondly, I am a heavy weight at 85kg's, and I like to keep my tyres
    inflated to around 120kpi's as advised by my bike shop.

    Ok I bought a good quality foot pump Serfras Brand.

    I try to keep my tyres at around 120, however when I put the pump on the
    stem, and start pumping at around 110, its keeps shooting off the stem,


    why

    Quoted message said:

    ??

    Also with the presta valve, should I undo it a little , give it a tap to
    break the seal, then pump it up ? is this the correct way ?

    Thanks guys for any answers, even though to you seasoned pro's these
    questions might sound silly,

    Thanks again.

    Is that THE Paul green of Brisbane Broncos fame?

  7. No not me .
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    Quoted message said:


    "Paul Green" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Ok I am new to road bikes, so my question might sound a little silly,


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    please give us a fair go.

    Ok I have noticed on my new road bike that the Valve stem on the rear


    tyre

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is shorter than the one on the front, is this normal ?

    Secondly, I am a heavy weight at 85kg's, and I like to keep my tyres
    inflated to around 120kpi's as advised by my bike shop.

    Ok I bought a good quality foot pump Serfras Brand.

    I try to keep my tyres at around 120, however when I put the pump on the
    stem, and start pumping at around 110, its keeps shooting off the stem,


    why

    Quoted message said:

    ??

    Also with the presta valve, should I undo it a little , give it a tap to
    break the seal, then pump it up ? is this the correct way ?

    Thanks guys for any answers, even though to you seasoned pro's these
    questions might sound silly,

    Thanks again.

    Is that THE Paul green of Brisbane Broncos fame?

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