Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck.
Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck.
I MTB 2004
Very well said. My dad, who does a lot of fine woodworking, puts a mixture of bee's wax and other parrifin on screws when he has to use them. Not exactly a bike, but he was the guy who got me into biking.
If it is good enough for him, it is good enough for me.
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Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck.
I MTB 2004
Very well said.
Yeah, crazy's the shakespear of a.m-b if ever there was one
Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck.
Wasn't the left pedal was it. ;-) I agree. back in the days of free wheels I would use teflon tape and grease on the hub. This makes it easier to remove the FW on singles. I found it an absolute necessity on my tandem.
Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck.
I MTB 2004
Heh. I thought this was going to be a rant about jocks.
I still have my V brake posts on my M5 frame - they do not want to come out. I hear heat is the way to get them out but I'm afraid of what that might do to my frame, so I leave them.
Anyone have thoughts about using heat on a fancy aluminum frame? Seems scary to me.
Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck.
I MTB 2004
Heh. I thought this was going to be a rant about jocks.
I still have my V brake posts on my M5 frame - they do not want to come out. I hear heat is the way to get them out but I'm afraid of what that might do to my frame, so I leave them.
Anyone have thoughts about using heat on a fancy aluminum frame? Seems scary to me.
I'd try boiling water kind of heat (what is that 105 F in Gunnison ;-) ) but not flame heat. IIRC Al is heat treated at cookie baking kinds of temps. That's a unit I can relate to!
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Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck.
I MTB 2004
Heh. I thought this was going to be a rant about jocks.
I still have my V brake posts on my M5 frame - they do not want to come
out.
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I hear heat is the way to get them out but I'm afraid of what that might
do
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to my frame, so I leave them.
Anyone have thoughts about using heat on a fancy aluminum frame? Seems
scary
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to me.
I'd try boiling water kind of heat (what is that 105 F in Gunnison ;-) ) but not flame heat. IIRC Al is heat treated at cookie baking kinds of temps. That's a unit I can relate to!
Shawn
Ok, I have a dumb question. Doesn't heat E-X-P-A-N-D metal objects? So then, why does using heat loosen a tight thread? You'd think that heat would make it even tighter. 😕
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> Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on > metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried > removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I > used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot > of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use > grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything > metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of > my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to > cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck. > > I MTB 2004
Heh. I thought this was going to be a rant about jocks.
I still have my V brake posts on my M5 frame - they do not want to come out. I hear heat is the way to get them out but I'm afraid of what that might do to my frame, so I leave them.
Anyone have thoughts about using heat on a fancy aluminum frame? Seems scary to me.
I'd try boiling water kind of heat (what is that 105 F in Gunnison ;-) ) but not flame heat. IIRC Al is heat treated at cookie baking kinds of temps. That's a unit I can relate to!
Shawn
Ok, I have a dumb question. Doesn't heat E-X-P-A-N-D metal objects? So then, why does using heat loosen a tight thread? You'd think that heat would make it even tighter. 😕
In the case of a steel pedal spindle in an aluminum crank arm, the aluminum expands more than the steel does, so the differences in coefficients of expansion make it easier to get them apart. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training
Ok, I have a dumb question. Doesn't heat E-X-P-A-N-D metal objects? So then, why does using heat loosen a tight thread? You'd think that heat would make it even tighter. 😕
In the case of a steel pedal spindle in an aluminum crank arm, the aluminum expands more than the steel does, so the differences in coefficients of expansion make it easier to get them apart.
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Anyone have thoughts about using heat on a fancy aluminum frame? Seems scary to me.
Yeah. Don't. Try lots of penetrating oil and some patience.
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That's what I figured. Thanks. So far the patience is working pretty well!
The other thing is hold a few ice cubes on the stud for a while, then get a good hairdryer on highest heat setting and blast it on the stud mounts while shielding the studs with a piece of card or similar. Not done this on said parts, but it's worked for similar before for me.
Shaun aRe - if you can't heat one half fully, heat it half as much and cool the other by half instead! Or sorta summink mebbe a little bit almost close to slightly like that anyhow.
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Ok, I have a dumb question. Doesn't heat E-X-P-A-N-D metal objects? So then, why does using heat loosen a tight thread? You'd think that heat would make it even tighter. 😕
In the case of a steel pedal spindle in an aluminum crank arm, the aluminum expands more than the steel does, so the differences in coefficients of expansion make it easier to get them apart.
That and any relative movement whatsoever helps.
Also you're only supposed to be applying heat directly to the female threaded part...uhhmm, oh fuggedaboudit Sorni.
Heres for all those fools that won't use grease on metal parts. Got this bike from a friend to work on. Tried removing the pedals, even using liquid wrench no way. So I used heat along with the liquid wrench. I mean I had to use alot of heat and a pipe on the wrench. Finally came free. I use grease on every bolt, srcew, stud,BB,pedal,and everything metal to metal. I never have a problem removing a part on any of my seven bikes. So for those wimps that can't or won't due to cost,lazy,vanity or what ever, you suck. I MTB 2004
Very well said. My dad, who does a lot of fine woodworking, puts a mixture of bee's wax and other parrifin on screws when he has to use them. Not exactly a bike, but he was the guy who got me into biking.
If it is good enough for him, it is good enough for me.
I guess that you should have one of these in the garage. Your Dad could even lend you the tools....
