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Are American poilice really stupid or really clever?

I suppose the same question goes for the whole of the American
electorate...

On 04 Nov 2004 08:37:46 GMT, [email hidden]

(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) said:

This one is serious.

http://www.pcrob.com/DUIStopcanhedoiut.htm

Cheers, helen s ;-)

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On 04 Nov 2004 08:37:46 GMT, [email hidden]

(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) said:

http://www.pcrob.com/DUIStopcanhedoiut.htm

You kind of wonder why these folks don't use intoximeters, don't you?

Good spoof, though :-)

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Quoted message said:

You kind of wonder why these folks don't use intoximeters, don't you?

Good spoof, though :-)

I loved the "step, bump, step, bump-bump"

Cheers, helen s

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Zardoz [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Are American poilice really stupid or really clever?

I suppose the same question goes for the whole of the American
electorate...

I think "whole" is a little unfair. "Slight majority" might be better.
It is a little worrying that while 48% of Americans did not want Bush in
for a second term, the Bush administration is claiming a decisive
victory. Am I alone in thinking that a decisive victory requires better
than a 50:50 split?

Jon

Quoted message said:

for a second term, the Bush administration is claiming a decisive
victory. Am I alone in thinking that a decisive victory requires better
than a 50:50 split?

I vaguely remember somebody on the TV wibbled on about Bush being the first
present ever to get more than 50% of the popular vote. However, as it came
down to the votes of one state - Ohio - it can hardly be called a decisive
victory. This may all be wrong tho. Any Americans about?

Mark Thompson [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

I vaguely remember somebody on the TV wibbled on about Bush being the first
present ever to get more than 50% of the popular vote. However, as it came
down to the votes of one state - Ohio - it can hardly be called a decisive
victory. This may all be wrong tho. Any Americans about?

I heard that stat too. I think it was the first since X rather than the
first ever, but X was a looooong time ago.

The other thing that would be interesting would be to see the final
result if the electoral college votes were allocated on a proportional
rather than "winner takes all" system. I believe two states already do
this and another had tabled it but failed to get it through in time.

Oh well. If they will insist on enforcing two party rule and using a
voting system designed to get around problems that ceased to exist 100
years ago...

Jon

Jon Senior said:

It is a little worrying that while 48% of Americans did not want Bush in
for a second term, the Bush administration is claiming a decisive
victory. Am I alone in thinking that a decisive victory requires better
than a 50:50 split?

This may explain it:
<URL:http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/colyer_pictures/z-USBeaconofDemocracy.wmv>
(1.83MB download)

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"Mark Thompson" wrote...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

for a second term, the Bush administration is claiming a decisive
victory. Am I alone in thinking that a decisive victory requires better
than a 50:50 split?

I vaguely remember somebody on the TV wibbled on about Bush being the

first

Quoted message said:

present ever to get more than 50% of the popular vote. However, as it

came

Quoted message said:

down to the votes of one state - Ohio - it can hardly be called a decisive
victory. This may all be wrong tho. Any Americans about?

I suppose the Bush people call it a decisive victory, since they didn't have
to convince the Supreme Court to give the election to their boy. I take
comfort in knowing that almost half the voters voted against that man, but
the fact that he got a popular majority this time, no matter how slim, is
distressing.
--
mark

Just zis Guy said:

On 04 Nov 2004 08:37:46 GMT, [email hidden]

(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) said:

http://www.pcrob.com/DUIStopcanhedoiut.htm

You kind of wonder why these folks don't use intoximeters, don't you?

Good spoof, though :-)

Guy

I have met some of the guys who do these tests. The good ones are truly
amazing. Not only cant hey tell you pretty accurately how much a guy
has had to drink but they can also use the tests to ascertain if a
person has been using drugs and by their reactions which type of drugs.
I was very impressed.
We did a course on it and started to train others until someone pointed
out to the commissioner that the tests would not be legal. That stopped
it dead.

Sniper8052

Quoted message said:

We did a course on it and started to train others until someone pointed
out to the commissioner that the tests would not be legal.

I have visions of the Boys in Blue at the top of the charts with "step, bump,
step, bump-bump" followed by a "step-ball-change" ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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in message <[email hidden]>, Jon Senior

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk ('') said:

Zardoz [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Are American poilice really stupid or really clever?

I suppose the same question goes for the whole of the American
electorate...

I think "whole" is a little unfair. "Slight majority" might be better.
It is a little worrying that while 48% of Americans did not want Bush
in for a second term, the Bush administration is claiming a decisive
victory. Am I alone in thinking that a decisive victory requires
better than a 50:50 split?

If you really want to get /really/ [censored], try my latest blog entry.
I am, to put it mildly, spitting.
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/story?article=18>

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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 19:04:31 -0000,

Jon Senior jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk said:

Mark Thompson [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

I vaguely remember somebody on the TV wibbled on about Bush being the first
present ever to get more than 50% of the popular vote. However, as it came
down to the votes of one state - Ohio - it can hardly be called a decisive
victory. This may all be wrong tho. Any Americans about?

I heard that stat too. I think it was the first since X rather than the
first ever, but X was a looooong time ago.

No, that can't be right?

Reagan got 54.5m votes to Mondale's 37.5m votes in 1984. There may have
been a few million votes for other candidates but not enough to make
Reagan get less than 50%.

Nixon and Lyndon Johnson won by similar margins.

Quoted message said:

The other thing that would be interesting would be to see the final
result if the electoral college votes were allocated on a proportional
rather than "winner takes all" system. I believe two states already do
this and another had tabled it but failed to get it through in time.

No it gives them the choice. The two states that can split their votes
can split them but it isn't quite proportional. I don't think the two
that can split, have ever split their vote up.

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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:35:07 GMT, Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

If you really want to get /really/ [censored], try my latest blog entry.
I am, to put it mildly, spitting.
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/story?article=18>

Nice piece Simon.

I admire your action (and certainly your optimism) in taking this up
with your MP, but am, sadly, unsurprised at the politely worded "[censored]
Off" response from the Home Office.

Hmmm, I've now been sat here for about 5 minutes trying to figure out
what else I want to say on this subject, but I'm actually lost for
words. I was astonished when I first read about this event at The Reg.

The state of contemporary politics and British "democracy" inspires
fury and despondency in equally huge measure for me.

I actually let my Private Eye subscription lapse last year because I
can rarely bring myself to read it anymore, it's just too damn
depressing. I should probably subscribe again just to add my few quid
to their pot.

Where's me chequebook....?
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'The revolution is just a T shirt away'

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"Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

using a
voting system designed to get around problems that ceased to exist 100
years ago...

Idle curiosity aroused. Can you elabaorate or give a ref?

Jon Senior <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk> wrote:

: I heard that stat too. I think it was the first since X rather than the
: first ever, but X was a looooong time ago.

Not that long ago. Bush senior was the last president to get a majority
of the popular vote before Bush junior

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Jon Senior said:

I think "whole" is a little unfair. "Slight majority" might be better.
It is a little worrying that while 48% of Americans did not want Bush in
for a second term, the Bush administration is claiming a decisive
victory. Am I alone in thinking that a decisive victory requires better
than a 50:50 split?

I think it's bloody ridiculous that he got more than about 10% of the
vote. 250 million people, and the best they can find for president is
that retarded son of an [censored]. Even if he'd lost narrowly, it would
still have been a shocking state of affairs.

James
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In article <[email hidden]>,

James Annan said:

Jon Senior said:

I think "whole" is a little unfair. "Slight majority" might be better.
It is a little worrying that while 48% of Americans did not want Bush in
for a second term, the Bush administration is claiming a decisive
victory. Am I alone in thinking that a decisive victory requires better
than a 50:50 split?

I think it's bloody ridiculous that he got more than about 10% of the
vote. 250 million people, and the best they can find for president is
that retarded son of an [censored]. Even if he'd lost narrowly, it would
still have been a shocking state of affairs.

James

That's the power of the Climate of Fear(TM). From now on, I'm going to
learn from Bush and am similarly going to justify everything I want to
do as being necessary for the War on Terror(TM). E.g.,

ME: "I'm having that last piece of cake."
OTHER: "Why?"
ME: "I need it for the War on Terror."
OTHER: "Yes, yes, then by all means..."

Ian
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Ian Walker said:

the War on Terror(TM)

Dear Sir,

have any of your readers noticed the remarkable similarity between the
acronyms for "Total Waste Of Time" and "The War On Terror"? I wonder if
they might be, by any chance, related?

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floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:35:07 GMT, Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Jon Senior

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk ('') said:

Zardoz [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Are American poilice really stupid or really clever?

I suppose the same question goes for the whole of the American
electorate...

I think "whole" is a little unfair. "Slight majority" might be better.
It is a little worrying that while 48% of Americans did not want Bush
in for a second term, the Bush administration is claiming a decisive
victory. Am I alone in thinking that a decisive victory requires
better than a 50:50 split?

If you really want to get /really/ [censored], try my latest blog entry.
I am, to put it mildly, spitting.
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/story?article=18>

Ah, finally sussed your web site. Used the "view source" trick to read
the text.

I'm not sure it's so clear cut in this case. There is no evidence that
the FBI or anyone acting on their behalf actually "siezed" the
property. It may just have been that rackspace were sufficiently leant
upon to volunteer it. Of course, such is the secrecy of the Mutual
Assistance treaty, we will never know for sure.

Mutual Assistance is currently being used as the basis to extradite
(without evidence, of course) financiers involved in Enron. Whatever
the rights and wrongs of the case, the fact remains that it is now
possible for the US to demand the handover of *anyone in Britain*
(well, almost).

Much on this - and other worrying topics - can be found at
www.cryptome.org.

This is just one of many legal instraments that have been introduced
over the past 7 years that have effectively removed personal freedoms
and privacy from Britons as individuals and sovereignty from us all as
a nation. I am under no illusions as to the sort of state and regime
we now live under.

Incidentally, I'm not your average lefty, anarchist conspiracy seeker.
For a long time I argued that our country was a beacon of good
government and respect for basic freedoms and privacy. Yet I now see a
country in which thoughtcrime and indefinate imprisonment without
charge or trial are realities.