rice and vampires

Cubit said:

While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big bowl of
rice in front of me. I made a cross with my index fingers and held it up
toward the bowl, like I was a victim in a vampire movie and the rice was
Dracula.

I see no temptation in the rice. In fact, it seems like I'm watching my
friends eat poison. I feel sorry for them. I can't quite tell them how I
feel. It would sound like criticism.

I've gone from being much larger than my friends to being smaller than

most

Quoted message said:

of them. I think it makes them uncomfortable.

Cubit, it's rice. Some people can eat rice in moderation, some can't. Rice
makes some people put on weight, does nothing to others. Your friends were
possibly feeling uncomfortable partly because of the relationship between
you and your food, rather than just because of your current size compared to
theirs. I mean, as a low-carber I would still find it a tad weird to see
someone making a little cross with their index fingers against a bowl of
rice, not to mention the non low carbing friends of yours.

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Cubit said:

While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big bowl of
rice in front of me. I made a cross with my index fingers and held it up
toward the bowl, like I was a victim in a vampire movie and the rice was
Dracula.

I see no temptation in the rice. In fact, it seems like I'm watching my
friends eat poison. I feel sorry for them. I can't quite tell them how I
feel. It would sound like criticism.

I've gone from being much larger than my friends to being smaller than most
of them. I think it makes them uncomfortable.

Cubit
311/208/165

I know what you mean about watching your friends eat poison. A friend of
mine mentioned the other day that he'd had three, THREE bagels for
breakfast. I was shocked. I never ate more than one bagel at a time even
when I was eating a carb heavy diet. "Three? Three whole bagels?" I said.
"Yeah, so what?" said he. "I did say 'bagels,' not doughnuts, you know."
I said "For what they do to your blood sugar, you may as well have eaten
doughnuts." I would not normally comment on someone else's eating habits,
but this friend has been trying to lose weight and says he's been eating
lower-carb than he used to, but then he gets confused about the difference
between carbs and fat. Like he'll ask me if I can eat cheese, and I'll say
"of course" and he'll say "But isn't it full of fat?" and I'll explain to
him once again that I'm doing low-carb, not low-fat. I keep telling him to
do some research if he wants to do low-carb, but he's a slacker.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]>

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I mean, as a low-carber I would still find it a tad weird to see
someone making a little cross with their index fingers against a bowl of
rice, not to mention the non low carbing friends of yours.

I would too.

Cubit said:

While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big
bowl of rice in front of me. I made a cross with my index fingers
and held
it up toward the bowl, like I was a victim in a vampire movie and
the rice
was Dracula.

Damn. That's rude as all get-out Dave. Substitute a platter of beef
for the rice and picture a vegetarian friend doing to the platter what
you did to the rice. It'd be offensive behavior.

Quoted message said:

I see no temptation in the rice. In fact, it seems like I'm
watching my friends eat poison. I feel sorry for them. I can't
quite tell them
how I feel. It would sound like criticism.

You *did* criticize them. You just used a non-verbal form of
communication.

Quoted message said:

I've gone from being much larger than my friends to being smaller
than most of them. I think it makes them uncomfortable.

Maybe, just maybe, it's not your weight loss that makes them
uncomfortable. Maybe it's your judgemental attitude.

Carmen

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Quoted message said:

While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big bowl of
rice in front of me. I made a cross with my index fingers and held it up
toward the bowl, like I was a victim in a vampire movie and the rice was
Dracula.

I see no temptation in the rice. In fact, it seems like I'm watching my
friends eat poison. I feel sorry for them. I can't quite tell them how I
feel. It would sound like criticism.

I've gone from being much larger than my friends to being smaller than
most
of them. I think it makes them uncomfortable.

Cubit
311/208/165

Ever see Lost Boys? When Michael was first with the vampires? Drinking the
"wine" that was blood, then the rice was maggots I think...

Carmen said:

Cubit said:

While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big
bowl of rice in front of me. I made a cross with my index fingers
and held
it up toward the bowl, like I was a victim in a vampire movie and
the rice
was Dracula.

Damn. That's rude as all get-out Dave. Substitute a platter of beef
for the rice and picture a vegetarian friend doing to the platter what
you did to the rice. It'd be offensive behavior.

I remember being at a pizza lunch where my my husband worked once and
seeing one of his co-workers explaining loudly to his son, "we don't eat
this kind of pizza, because it has DEAD ANIMAL on it."

For Pete's sake, everybody has their own eating preferences, that's why
it was on a lazy susan in the first place. Just take what you want to
eat and leave the rest alone. Don't try to make a statement about your
choices.

Rebecca

I'd take it as humorous.

In news:[email hidden],
Ada Ma <[email hidden]> stated
| Cubit, it's rice. Some people can eat rice in moderation, some
| can't. Rice makes some people put on weight, does nothing to others.
| Your friends were possibly feeling uncomfortable partly because of
| the relationship between you and your food, rather than just because
| of your current size compared to theirs. I mean, as a low-carber I
| would still find it a tad weird to see someone making a little cross
| with their index fingers against a bowl of rice, not to mention the
| non low carbing friends of yours.

Do you really take people's comments about food that seriously? Some of my
children are vegetarians and low fatters, even before low carb I was a meat
eater and never a low fatter. When we have get togethers we always do
potluck and have a variety of foods that allow for any kind of approach to
food, you just eat what appeals to you. My daughter makes derogatory
comments about meat but no one gets offended and she has no problem
associating with the carnivores. I thought Cubit's gesture was humorous,
that's certainly how I would take it, the same as I take comments about
eating meat.

In news:[email hidden],
Carmen <[email hidden]> stated
| On 31-Oct-2004, "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
|| While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big
|| bowl of rice in front of me. I made a cross with my index fingers
|| and held
|| it up toward the bowl, like I was a victim in a vampire movie and
|| the rice
|| was Dracula.
|
| Damn. That's rude as all get-out Dave. Substitute a platter of beef
| for the rice and picture a vegetarian friend doing to the platter what
| you did to the rice. It'd be offensive behavior.
|
|| I see no temptation in the rice. In fact, it seems like I'm
|| watching my friends eat poison. I feel sorry for them. I can't
|| quite tell them
|| how I feel. It would sound like criticism.
|
| You *did* criticize them. You just used a non-verbal form of
| communication.
|
|| I've gone from being much larger than my friends to being smaller
|| than most of them. I think it makes them uncomfortable.
|
| Maybe, just maybe, it's not your weight loss that makes them
| uncomfortable. Maybe it's your judgemental attitude.
|
| Carmen

Hello,

FOB said:

In news:[email hidden],
Carmen <[email hidden]> stated
| On 31-Oct-2004, "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
|| While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big
|| bowl of rice in front of me. I made a cross with my index
fingers and held it up toward the bowl, like I was a victim in a
vampire movie and
|| the rice
|| was Dracula.
|
| Damn. That's rude as all get-out Dave. Substitute a platter of
beef | for the rice and picture a vegetarian friend doing to the
platter
what you did to the rice. It'd be offensive behavior.
|
|| I see no temptation in the rice. In fact, it seems like I'm
|| watching my friends eat poison. I feel sorry for them. I can't
|| quite tell them how I feel. It would sound like criticism.
|
| You *did* criticize them. You just used a non-verbal form of
| communication.
|
|| I've gone from being much larger than my friends to being smaller
|| than most of them. I think it makes them uncomfortable.
|
| Maybe, just maybe, it's not your weight loss that makes them
| uncomfortable. Maybe it's your judgemental attitude.

Quoted message said:

Do you really take people's comments about food that seriously?
Some of my children are vegetarians and low fatters, even before low
carb I was
a meat eater and never a low fatter. When we have get togethers we
always
do potluck and have a variety of foods that allow for any kind of
approach to food, you just eat what appeals to you. My daughter
makes
derogatory comments about meat but no one gets offended and she has
no problem
associating with the carnivores. I thought Cubit's gesture was
humorous, that's certainly how I would take it, the same as I take
comments
about eating meat.

I take people's comments about my food in the spirit I perceive them
to have been offered in. Cubit said he felt sorry for his friends and
wanted to tell them how he felt but didn't. That doesn't point
towards a humorous motive. I'd be offended if someone did that to me.
I'd be embarrassed if my daughter did it. She's been taught not to
make fun of people's food choices. That lesson was taught way back
when she thought it was disgusting to see her uncle eat ketchup on
Cheez Doodles and said "Eewww".
We don't view what Cubit did the same way. You see it as a joke, I
see it as criticism of others' food choices. Fair enough.

Take care,
Carmen

Quoted message said:

A friend of
mine mentioned the other day that he'd had three, THREE bagels for
breakfast. I was shocked. I never ate more than one bagel at a time even
when I was eating a carb heavy diet. "Three? Three whole bagels?" I said.
"Yeah, so what?" said he. "I did say 'bagels,' not doughnuts, you know."
I said "For what they do to your blood sugar, you may as well have eaten
doughnuts." I would not normally comment on someone else's eating habits,
but this friend has been trying to lose weight and says he's been eating
lower-carb than he used to, but then he gets confused about the difference
between carbs and fat. Like he'll ask me if I can eat cheese, and I'll say
"of course" and he'll say "But isn't it full of fat?" and I'll explain to
him once again that I'm doing low-carb, not low-fat. I keep telling him to
do some research if he wants to do low-carb, but he's a slacker.

Bagels are so much more dense than donuts, well, that's just a LOT of food. I
have friends who can't get past the low-fat thing either. She says she's LCing,
and then proudly informs me she's drinking non-fat milk with her cereal. People
can eat what they want, it's not my business. But when they brag about how
great their diet is, it's an issue, LOL!

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/159/140
& hubby- 6' 310/188/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

Cubit said:

I see no temptation in the rice.

then why did you feel the need to make a point of warding it off?

In news:[email hidden],
Carmen <[email hidden]> stated
|
| I take people's comments about my food in the spirit I perceive them
| to have been offered in. Cubit said he felt sorry for his friends and
| wanted to tell them how he felt but didn't. That doesn't point
| towards a humorous motive. I'd be offended if someone did that to me.
| I'd be embarrassed if my daughter did it. She's been taught not to
| make fun of people's food choices. That lesson was taught way back
| when she thought it was disgusting to see her uncle eat ketchup on
| Cheez Doodles and said "Eewww".
| We don't view what Cubit did the same way. You see it as a joke, I
| see it as criticism of others' food choices. Fair enough.
|
| Take care,
| Carmen

But he made a gesture at the food. He didn't direct it at any of his
friends. It was basically a humorous gesture, like saying Get thee behind
me Satan. If he had said, Bob, you could lose weight if you would skip the
rice, that would have been something to take personally. One of the
problems with the world these days is everyone is too damn sensitive.

FOB said:

Do you really take people's comments about food that seriously? Some of my
children are vegetarians and low fatters, even before low carb I was a meat
eater and never a low fatter. When we have get togethers we always do
potluck and have a variety of foods that allow for any kind of approach to
food, you just eat what appeals to you. My daughter makes derogatory
comments about meat but no one gets offended and she has no problem
associating with the carnivores. I thought Cubit's gesture was humorous,
that's certainly how I would take it, the same as I take comments about
eating meat.

Maybe you just think no one is offended by your daughter's derogatory
remarks because no one says anything. Especially if you seem to think
she is perfectly appropriate.

I taught my kids not to make derogatory remarks about whatever is
served. Someone spent a lot of energy making that dish to offer to you.
If you don't like it or are choosing not to eat it you don't have to
also insult it in the process.

Rebecca

FOB said:

Do you really take people's comments about food that seriously? Some of my
children are vegetarians and low fatters, even before low carb I was a meat
eater and never a low fatter. When we have get togethers we always do
potluck and have a variety of foods that allow for any kind of approach to
food, you just eat what appeals to you. My daughter makes derogatory
comments about meat but no one gets offended and she has no problem
associating with the carnivores. I thought Cubit's gesture was humorous,
that's certainly how I would take it, the same as I take comments about
eating meat.

Maybe you just think no one is offended by your daughter's derogatory
remarks because no one says anything. Especially if you seem to think
she is perfectly appropriate.

I taught my kids not to make derogatory remarks about whatever is
served. Someone spent a lot of energy making that dish to offer to you.
If you don't like it or are choosing not to eat it you don't have to
also insult it in the process.

Rebecca

FOB said:

In news:[email hidden],
Carmen <[email hidden]> stated
|
| I take people's comments about my food in the spirit I perceive
them
| to have been offered in. Cubit said he felt sorry for his friends
and
| wanted to tell them how he felt but didn't. That doesn't point
| towards a humorous motive. I'd be offended if someone did that to
me.
| I'd be embarrassed if my daughter did it. She's been taught not
to
| make fun of people's food choices. That lesson was taught way
back
| when she thought it was disgusting to see her uncle eat ketchup on
| Cheez Doodles and said "Eewww".
| We don't view what Cubit did the same way. You see it as a joke,
| see it as criticism of others' food choices. Fair enough.

But he made a gesture at the food. He didn't direct it at any of
his friends. It was basically a humorous gesture, like saying Get
thee
behind me Satan. If he had said, Bob, you could lose weight if you
would
skip the rice, that would have been something to take personally.
One of the
problems with the world these days is everyone is too damn
sensitive.

Once again:

Quoted message said:

| We don't view what Cubit did the same way. You see it as a joke,
| see it as criticism of others' food choices. Fair enough.

You already made your POV clear, as did I. Continuing to argue for
your POV at this point is well, pointless.
That's why I stopped doing so. See?

Carmen

In news:hV9hd.551258$8_6.287215@attbi_s04,
Rebecca <[email hidden]> stated
| FOB wrote:
|| Do you really take people's comments about food that seriously?
|| Some of my children are vegetarians and low fatters, even before low
|| carb I was a meat eater and never a low fatter. When we have get
|| togethers we always do potluck and have a variety of foods that
|| allow for any kind of approach to food, you just eat what appeals to
|| you. My daughter makes derogatory comments about meat but no one
|| gets offended and she has no problem associating with the
|| carnivores. I thought Cubit's gesture was humorous, that's
|| certainly how I would take it, the same as I take comments about
|| eating meat.
|
| Maybe you just think no one is offended by your daughter's derogatory
| remarks because no one says anything. Especially if you seem to think
| she is perfectly appropriate.
|
| I taught my kids not to make derogatory remarks about whatever is
| served. Someone spent a lot of energy making that dish to offer to
| you. If you don't like it or are choosing not to eat it you don't
| have to also insult it in the process.
|
| Rebecca

No, it's not because no one says anything. It's because of how the whole
family talks to each other. We joke around and don't take such comments
seriously because we know that even though there may be a serious side to
the underlying belief, we love each other and respect each other's right to
their own opinions. We can kid about them, though.

I'm LCing for BG, not weight. I'm still experimenting about rice. I love
Asian food, which is too spicy unless eaten over rice or something bland.

Last night I had 3 dolmas (Greek, rice inside grape leaves, cooked with oil
and something acid). I guess it was about 1 cup or less of rice. My BG's
followed a curve recommended in a.s.d: 1st hour 140, 2nd hour 120. Then I
went to bed. This morning my fasting BG was 90 (well inside normal range).

Rice or something similar would give me a lot more choices. I could use up
some of the Asian entrees in my cupboard. 🙂

Someone said they used Dreamfield's pasta for Asian dishes, haven't tried
that yet.

Skinny
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Cubit said:

While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big bowl of
rice in front of me.

I'm a carb Nazi. That got my HbA1c from 10 in 2001 to 5.1 recently.
Fasting BG was 236, but most recently 84.

My friends always ask for food to be very spicy, as in picante. When the
waiter was confirming it the other night, he scowled and said hot HOT?
They said yes. I enjoy the hot food, but I cheat. I have found that taking
a Tylenol or two before dinner makes the food seem less hot.

Orange Peel Beef, General's Chicken. Yum.

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Quoted message said:

I'm LCing for BG, not weight. I'm still experimenting about rice. I love
Asian food, which is too spicy unless eaten over rice or something bland.

Last night I had 3 dolmas (Greek, rice inside grape leaves, cooked with

oil

Quoted message said:

and something acid). I guess it was about 1 cup or less of rice. My BG's
followed a curve recommended in a.s.d: 1st hour 140, 2nd hour 120. Then I
went to bed. This morning my fasting BG was 90 (well inside normal range).

Rice or something similar would give me a lot more choices. I could use up
some of the Asian entrees in my cupboard. 🙂

Someone said they used Dreamfield's pasta for Asian dishes, haven't tried
that yet.

Skinny
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Cubit said:

While dining out with friends, the lazy susan stopped with a big bowl of
rice in front of me.

FOB said:

But he made a gesture at the food. He didn't direct it at any of his
friends. It was basically a humorous gesture, like saying Get thee behind
me Satan.

which doesn't make any sense if he wasn't tempted by it. dude's got
issues.