Good Fat?

njb1978 said:

Hi
- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat. - from what I've
read and hopefully understood saturated fats are the worst (to be avoided
as much as possible?) - but some other types are ?essential.
- long story short i didn't used to care about my diet (god forbid i was
still a smoker 7ish months ago) but i'm a dad now so it's not just me i'm
responsible for.................
-trying to improve my diet but finding it all very confusing - any
recomended books web sites?

- thanks for your time and any information, regards

http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/know_your_fats.html

gtoomey

njb1978 said:

Hi
- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.

Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one to
the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a 19th
Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
which one that is is obvious.

-Jay

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Hi
- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat. - from what I've
read and hopefully understood saturated fats are the worst (to be avoided as
much as possible?) - but some other types are ?essential.
- long story short i didn't used to care about my diet (god forbid i was
still a smoker 7ish months ago) but i'm a dad now so it's not just me i'm
responsible for.................
-trying to improve my diet but finding it all very confusing - any
recomended books web sites?

- thanks for your time and any information, regards

The way the mainstream condemns all saturated fats as bad and the same
is just one example of their stupidity. There are good saturated fats
and there are bad ones. Saturated animal fats and tropical oils are
extremely healthy. The bad saturated fats are the hydrogenated
vegetable shortenings. Also highly polyunsaturated fats from liquid
vegetable oils are extremely dangerous to human health. The weston
price link given in the last post is the number one source for
TRUTHFUL information on fat. Anything else, especially from
mainstream medical establishment(like Harvard and others) must be
taken with a grain of salt if not a bucket. They spout many
distortions and outright lies about fat. These lies are and have been
driven by various food industry interests for many many decades.

Here is some more good information about fat at http://coconutoil.com/

http://coconutoil.com/coconut_oil_21st_century.htm

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njb1978 wrote:
Hi
- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking

around

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on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.

Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one

to

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the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a

19th

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Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
which one that is is obvious.

Umm... You wouldn't care to give us a *clue*, would you...?

M.

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njb1978 said:

Hi
- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.

Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one to
the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a 19th
Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
which one that is is obvious.

You really are an ignorant moron. Harvard isn't worth dog [censored] to
anyone but their corporate pay masters and dumbass dupes like you.
Get your freakin head out of the sand.

Wolfbrother said:

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njb1978 said:

Hi
- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.

Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one to
the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a 19th
Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
which one that is is obvious.

You really are an ignorant moron.

Thank you. When an ignorant moron calls you an ignorant moron, it's actually a
compliment. If you started to admire me, I'd start getting worried.

-Jay

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njb1978 wrote:

>Hi
>- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
>on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.

Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one to
the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a 19th
Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
which one that is is obvious.

You really are an ignorant moron.

Thank you. When an ignorant moron calls you an ignorant moron, it's actually a
compliment. If you started to admire me, I'd start getting worried.

-Jay

Actually you displayed your ignorance with the statement you made
about the link provided by Gregory. Weston Price is long dead and has
no "writings" in any of the articles from that link. Most of the
information there is written by a highly regarded biochemist and lipid
researcher Mary Enig who was among the first scientists to bring the
dangers of trans fats into the mainstream. I think she has some
authority on fats. Certainly much more than your dumb ass. So why
dont you admit your remarks were either wrong and misleading or just
plain ignorant. To calim it is an "idiots guide" is absurd and makes
you look like a fool. She also is not a corrupt unethical industry
owned criminal like many of the so called scientists and researchers
at Harvard. It does not take a genius to decide who is credible and
who is not. But it does take an "ignorant moron" to make the wrong
choice.

Dr. Mary G. Enig, a nutritionist/biochemist of international renown
for her research on the nutritional aspects of fats and oils, is a
consultant, clinician, and the Director of the Nutritional Sciences
Division of Enig Associates, Inc., Silver Spring, Maryland. Dr. Enig,
a consultant on nutrition to individuals, industry, and state and
federal governments, is a licensed practitioner in Maryland and the
District of Columbia. She has served as a Contributing Editor of the
scientific journal Clinical Nutrition and a Consulting Editor of the
Journal of the American College of Nutrition. Dr. Enig has authored
numerous journal publications, mainly on fats and oils research and
nutrient/drug interactions, and is a well-known invited lecturer at
scientific meetings and a popular interviewee on TV and radio shows
about nutrition. She was an early and articulate critic of the use of
trans fatty acids and advocated their inclusion in nutritional
labeling; the scientific mainstream is now challenging the food
product industry's use of trans-containing partially hydrogenated
vegetable oils. She received her Ph.D. in Nutritional Sciences from
the University of Maryland, College Park, and is a Fellow of The
American College of Nutrition, a member of The American Society for
Nutritional Sciences, and President of the Maryland Nutritionists
Association.

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>njb1978 wrote:
>
>
>>Hi
>>- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
>>on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.
>
>Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one to
>the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a 19th
>Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
>which one that is is obvious.

You really are an ignorant moron.

Thank you. When an ignorant moron calls you an ignorant moron, it's actually a
compliment. If you started to admire me, I'd start getting worried.

-Jay

Actually you displayed your ignorance with the statement you made
about the link provided by Gregory. Weston Price is long dead and has
no "writings" in any of the articles from that link. Most of the
information there is written by a highly regarded biochemist and lipid
researcher Mary Enig who was among the first scientists to bring the
dangers of trans fats into the mainstream.

Mary Enig is neither "highly regarded" nor an active researcher. She hasn't
done a damn thing except write letters to editors and publish her nonsense on
the web since getting her doctorate.

You're still an ignorant fool.

-Jay

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>Jay Tanzman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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>>njb1978 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
>>>on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.
>>
>>Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one to
>>the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a 19th
>>Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
>>which one that is is obvious.
>
>
>You really are an ignorant moron.

Thank you. When an ignorant moron calls you an ignorant moron, it's actually a
compliment. If you started to admire me, I'd start getting worried.

-Jay

Actually you displayed your ignorance with the statement you made
about the link provided by Gregory. Weston Price is long dead and has
no "writings" in any of the articles from that link. Most of the
information there is written by a highly regarded biochemist and lipid
researcher Mary Enig who was among the first scientists to bring the
dangers of trans fats into the mainstream.

Mary Enig is neither "highly regarded" nor an active researcher. She hasn't
done a damn thing except write letters to editors and publish her nonsense on
the web since getting her doctorate.

You're still an ignorant fool.

-Jay

Because I do not buy into the corporate controlled propaganda you call
nutritional guidelines? Give me a break. Why should I believe
Procter & Gamble and their cronies who call themselves health
authorities that polyunsaturated vegetable oils are good for me?? Why
don't you just trust the tobacco companies to inform you about
smoking. What a moron. You are the fool who allows himself to be
duped by such blatant lies and misinformation. You are the fool who
is blinded to the obvious greed and corruption of corporations and
industries who seek only profit at any cost with the medical research
they support to achieve this goal(not out of the kindness of their
hearts as you seem to think). You chose to ignore the obscene immoral
and unethical conflicts of interests and revolving door between
industries and medical/nutritional research and government health
policy making agencies. You chose to give these corrupt entities the
benefit of the doubt and put your health and that of your family and
the public in their hands? In hands that care only about the bottom
line and could not care how many people must suffer or die to achieve
the most profit possible. This is reality. You need to wake up. It
is not hard to see who the ignorant naive fool is. The only hard
thing to understand is why you so willfully chose ignorance over
enlightenment and acceptance of reality. You are only compromising
your own health in the long run. If you want to gulp down that yummy
soy bean and corn oil to get your daily dose of heart healthy
polyunsaturated oils while avoiding those dangerous animal fats go
right ahead. The only people you are helping are Proctor and Gamble
and the rest of the edible oil industry. Pretty sad how people allow
themselves to be duped to act against their own self interests and for
the interests of entities that care nothing about them except their
money. but then again half the US population does that by voting for
republicans and against their own working class interests and for the
interests of the rich top 1% rulling class. You really have said
little to rationalize your point of view or explain why my views are
wrong and why the facts I have presented are somehow irrelevant.

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>Wolfbrother wrote:
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>>Jay Tanzman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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>>>njb1978 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
>>>>on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.
>>>
>>>Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one to
>>>the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a 19th
>>>Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
>>>which one that is is obvious.
>>
>>
>>You really are an ignorant moron.
>
>Thank you. When an ignorant moron calls you an ignorant moron, it's actually a
>compliment. If you started to admire me, I'd start getting worried.
>
>-Jay

Actually you displayed your ignorance with the statement you made
about the link provided by Gregory. Weston Price is long dead and has
no "writings" in any of the articles from that link. Most of the
information there is written by a highly regarded biochemist and lipid
researcher Mary Enig who was among the first scientists to bring the
dangers of trans fats into the mainstream.

Mary Enig is neither "highly regarded" nor an active researcher. She hasn't
done a damn thing except write letters to editors and publish her nonsense on
the web since getting her doctorate.

You're still an ignorant fool.

-Jay

Because I do not buy into the corporate controlled propaganda you call
nutritional guidelines?

You need to learn the difference between scientific research and nutritional
guidelines.

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-Jay

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>Wolfbrother wrote:
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>>Jay Tanzman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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>>>njb1978 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>- this has probably been covered a thousand times but after looking around
>>>>on the net I can't seem to find 'an idiots guide' to fat.
>>>
>>>Of course the first two responses point you in opposite directions -- one to
>>>the Harvard University Dept. of Nutrition, the other to the writings of a 19th
>>>Century dentist. One of the above really is an idiot's guide. Hopefully,
>>>which one that is is obvious.
>>
>>
>>You really are an ignorant moron.
>
>Thank you. When an ignorant moron calls you an ignorant moron, it's actually a
>compliment. If you started to admire me, I'd start getting worried.
>
>-Jay

Actually you displayed your ignorance with the statement you made
about the link provided by Gregory. Weston Price is long dead and has
no "writings" in any of the articles from that link. Most of the
information there is written by a highly regarded biochemist and lipid
researcher Mary Enig who was among the first scientists to bring the
dangers of trans fats into the mainstream.

Mary Enig is neither "highly regarded" nor an active researcher. She hasn't
done a damn thing except write letters to editors and publish her nonsense on
the web since getting her doctorate.

You're still an ignorant fool.

-Jay

Because I do not buy into the corporate controlled propaganda you call
nutritional guidelines?

You need to learn the difference between scientific research and nutritional
guidelines.

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[blah blah blah...]

-Jay