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  1. Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which I have
    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides eating
    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was told I
    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things? and what
    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

  2. Quoted message said:

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides eating
    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was told


    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things? and


    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen


    ...
    Without knowing the status of some other factors affecting your
    duodenum such as magnesium, calcium and sulfur, the only "safe"
    remedy under those circumstances would appear to be Bromelain,
    because it won't change your acid situation (which is unknown),
    but it has an anti-inflammatory effect and supports digestion, which
    are both helpful under those circumstances.

    Occasionally taking a probiotic (acidophilus) supplement may be
    another consideration. I would also get tested for the H. Pylori bug
    (by blood test, or urea breath test), to rule out its involvement, and
    you may also want to either see a professional to assess you for
    food allergies, or you could try a rotational diet yourself, to isolate
    any offending foods (particularly for diverticulitis).

    Reducing abdominal gas is important for diverticulitis, so if insoluble
    fiber causes more gas for you, make sure you stick to soluble fiber,
    such as psyllium husks. A pancreatic enzyme complex also helps
    with abdominal bloating and certain allergies.

  3. "[censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides


    eating

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was


    told

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things? and


    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Quoted message said:

    Without knowing the status of some other factors affecting your
    duodenum such as magnesium, calcium and sulfur,


    ~~~~~~ I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying those things can
    affect the duodenum? or that I should be taking them?

    the only "safe"

    Quoted message said:

    remedy under those circumstances would appear to be Bromelain,
    because it won't change your acid situation (which is unknown),
    but it has an anti-inflammatory effect and supports digestion, which
    are both helpful under those circumstances.


    ~~~~ I take calcium and a multi vitamin for women, but just recently started
    that. My Gastro dr put me on something for my tummy (PPO? PPI?) so I'm
    taking that but dont' want to take it forever.... would like to make this go
    away and then keep it from re-occuring.

    Quoted message said:

    Occasionally taking a probiotic (acidophilus) supplement may be
    another consideration.


    ~~~~~ Started taking Greens Plus again, which has acidophilus in it....

    I would also get tested for the H. Pylori bug

    Quoted message said:

    (by blood test, or urea breath test), to rule out its involvement,


    ~~~~~ yes! interesting you mention it. My Gastro doc is going to test for
    that too. Where does this H. Pylori come from?

    and

    Quoted message said:

    you may also want to either see a professional to assess you for
    food allergies, or you could try a rotational diet yourself, to isolate
    any offending foods (particularly for diverticulitis).


    ~~~~~ so diverticulitis is often a food allergy thing? I've been reading up
    on an allergy to gluton called Celiac disease? One site I found said that
    its very common in England and they are finding it's just as common here?
    like 1 in 130 or so people have this....

    Quoted message said:


    Reducing abdominal gas is important for diverticulitis, so if insoluble
    fiber causes more gas for you, make sure you stick to soluble fiber,
    such as psyllium husks.


    ~~~~~ just starting taking some psyllium capsules too...

    A pancreatic enzyme complex also helps

    Quoted message said:

    with abdominal bloating and certain allergies.


    ~~~~hmm, now you've got me. What kinds of things would be included in this
    complex? Are you talking about things like papaya enzyme etc.. seems like
    I've seen that at the health food store.

    Thanks so much for responding!
    🙂
    Janine

  4. DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides eating
    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was told


    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things? and


    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

  5. DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides eating
    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was told


    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things? and


    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

  6. DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides eating
    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was told


    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things? and


    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

  7. Quoted message said:
    neenee said:

    Without knowing the status of some other factors affecting
    your duodenum such as magnesium, calcium and sulfur,


    ~~~~~~ I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying those
    things can affect the duodenum? or that I should be taking them?

    Calcium and magnesium have an acid-lowering effect, and they
    also have an anti-inflammatory effect at higher amounts - versus
    being pro-inflammatory when low. Sulfur is the other way around,
    where high levels are pro-inflammatory vs lower levels having more
    of a degenerative effect, primarily through its interaction with copper
    (and also aluminum - both being degenerative at higher levels just
    like calcium and magnesium).

    So in a practical sense, if magnesium - and to a lesser extent,
    calcium - were low, this could contribute to, or aggravate duodenitis,
    so extra supplementation would likely provide some benefits.
    While most people present with higher copper and subsequently lower
    sulfur levels, if by chance you were the other way around, this could
    lead to chronic inflammatory problems of the small intestine and might
    require extra copper, or some other sulfur antagonist.

    But, as mentioned, this is quite rare, and there would have to be some
    susceptibility to that. Any problems in that particular area could also
    reduce normal uptake of calcium and magnesium, so knowing their
    (cellular) status would shed some light on any possible causes of your
    medical situation.

    Quoted message said:

    the only "safe"

    Quoted message said:

    remedy under those circumstances would appear to be Bromelain,
    because it won't change your acid situation (which is unknown),
    but it has an anti-inflammatory effect and supports digestion, which
    are both helpful under those circumstances.


    ~~~~ I take calcium and a multi vitamin for women, but just recently


    started

    Quoted message said:

    that. My Gastro dr put me on something for my tummy (PPO? PPI?) so I'm
    taking that but dont' want to take it forever.... would like to make this


    go

    Quoted message said:

    away and then keep it from re-occuring.

    PPIs are drugs that block acid production, so they temporarily help the
    symptoms until (hopefully) the cause of the problem is established and
    resolved.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Occasionally taking a probiotic (acidophilus) supplement may be
    another consideration.


    ~~~~~ Started taking Greens Plus again, which has acidophilus in it....

    I'm personally not too impressed with these types of "botanical blends"
    where all those ingredients can literally create dozens of possible
    pharmacological effects, none of them specific to an individual's needs
    or requirements.

    Quoted message said:

    I would also get tested for the H. Pylori bug

    Quoted message said:

    (by blood test, or urea breath test), to rule out its involvement,


    ~~~~~ yes! interesting you mention it. My Gastro doc is going to test for
    that too. Where does this H. Pylori come from?

    Lots of speculations, but no official source so far - that I'm aware of.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A pancreatic enzyme complex also helps
    with abdominal bloating and certain allergies.


    ~~~~hmm, now you've got me. What kinds of things would be included in this
    complex? Are you talking about things like papaya enzyme etc.. seems like
    I've seen that at the health food store.

    There is a basic 'Pancreatin Enzyme' formulation to help break down fats,
    carbs
    and protein, or you can try a 'Digestive Enzyme Complex' that additionally
    helps
    to break down lactose and fiber. You can choose either one depending on
    what
    foods give you the most problems.
    BTW, Mixed Carotenoids also have a mild anti-inflammatory effect specific to
    the colon, so unless they bother your stomach, they are another option to
    try -
    again depending how much you feel like experimenting on your own.

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    DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    ~~~~~ yeah, I've been hearing about Celiac disease? an allergy to gluton..
    don't know if I have it but I know lots of people seem to have problems with
    grains, so have stopped eating bread and pasta, etc... what's DGL? 🙂

    Quoted message said:


    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides


    eating

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was


    told

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things? and


    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

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    DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    ~~~ funny, I had some leftover rice and pork chops last night and my tummy
    was bothering me during the night.... so rice too?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides


    eating

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was


    told

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things? and


    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

  10. Rice is usually allergy free to most people.

    I find the wheat thing takes a few days of eating it to have bad effects and
    almost a week to clear again. Bloating, indigestion, diarrhea and
    constipation are my symptoms.

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Piezzo Guru" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    ~~~ funny, I had some leftover rice and pork chops last night and my tummy
    was bothering me during the night.... so rice too?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides


    eating

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was


    told

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things?


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

  11. Deglycerized (sp?) Licorice.

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    "Piezzo Guru" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    ~~~ funny, I had some leftover rice and pork chops last night and my tummy
    was bothering me during the night.... so rice too?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides


    eating

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was


    told

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things?


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

  12. thanks! and thanks to [censored]!

    "Piezzo Guru" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Deglycerized (sp?) Licorice.

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Piezzo Guru" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    ~~~ funny, I had some leftover rice and pork chops last night and my


    tummy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was bothering me during the night.... so rice too?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis


    which

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have
    > been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides


    eating

    Quoted message said:

    > right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was


    told

    Quoted message said:

    I
    > also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    > diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things?


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what
    > to do nutritionally?
    >
    > Janeen
    > San Clemente, CA, USA
    > "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see


    us!"

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    > ~~ Robert Burns
    >
    >

  13. Just pork (very hard to digest) or the combination of starchy foods combined
    with proteins. Or if you like Susanne Somers, starchy foods with fats.

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Piezzo Guru" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    ~~~ funny, I had some leftover rice and pork chops last night and my tummy
    was bothering me during the night.... so rice too?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides


    eating

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was


    told

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things?


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

  14. "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Piezzo Guru" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    DGL and get off the grains, especially wheat and corn.

    ~~~~~ yeah, I've been hearing about Celiac disease? an allergy to gluton..
    don't know if I have it but I know lots of people seem to have problems


    with

    Quoted message said:

    grains, so have stopped eating bread and pasta, etc... what's DGL? 🙂

    The word is gluten not gluton. As high as 1 in 150 may have
    celiac diease!! Even very same amounts can cause trouble in
    a sufferer; therefore, processed foods are pretty risky for a
    celiac patient.

    DGL is a form licorice that has had G ( glycyrrhizin)
    removed to make it much safer to use.
    It is soothing to the GI tract. Some take it
    for heartburn. If your licorice still has G in it can send your
    BP way high ( it takes very little in me) and seriously
    distort your hormone production resulting in
    hyperparathyroidism. It can send your testosterone
    levels abnormally low. It can cause edema especially
    in women with PMS. The D stands for de as in
    deglycyrrhizin, meaning that G has been removed.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    "neenee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about duodenitis which


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have

    Quoted message said:

    been diagnosed with. Am wondering about natural remedies (besides


    eating

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right).. or if anyone has thoughts on cause. At the same time I was


    told

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    also have hiatal hernia, and two weeks ago discovered some mild
    diverticulitus. Any thoughts on a connection between these things?


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what

    Quoted message said:

    to do nutritionally?

    Janeen
    San Clemente, CA, USA
    "O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us; to see oursels as oth'rs see us!"
    ~~ Robert Burns

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