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  1. I run about 40 miles a week or 1 hour a day 5 days a week. I limited
    my carbs to 125 grams a day for 2 weeks as a test. I was a friggen
    mess I had no energy and could not run at anywhere near more normal
    pace.

    Other than the aforementioned exercise I am basically sedentary
    sitting at a desk all day,driving a car, etc. I certianly don't
    expend anywhere near the energy of the average person from 100 years
    ago.

    However atkins makes it sound like this was the average diet or carb
    consumptions from that era. I think that is BS. The problem is not
    with carb consumption but lack of exercise. The human body was not
    meant to be sitting at a desk or lying on the couch all day.

    My 2 cents...

  2. It's been a while but you need to read Protein Power and Neanderthin. Both
    low carb books. Protein Power in particular discusses what you are talking
    about.

    What man used to do is short bursts of high energy, then lay around all day.
    Running for one hour every day is not what the normal man would do. Why
    would he? Sure he'd run from a lion, but that wouldn't require an hour of
    running. Nor would he run after game for an hour straight without stopping.

    So what you are doing is what is unusual for a human being.

  3. jt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Other than the aforementioned exercise I am basically sedentary
    sitting at a desk all day,driving a car, etc. I certianly don't
    expend anywhere near the energy of the average person from 100 years
    ago.


    My ancestors ( French Canadain Voyagers ) paddled their canoes from
    Quebec to British Columbia every year for the fur trade. During this
    9 month journey they ate almost nothing but Pemmican ( fat and
    dehydrated meat - the ultimate low-carb meal bar). A 1/2 pound daily
    ration allowed a man to paddle and portage from sunup to sundown.

    Low carb diets have been shown in clinical trials to improve the
    performance of runners. See:
    "High-fat diets help athletes perform."
    ScienceNews Vol.149 No. 18 (May 4, 1996) 287.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  4. "jt" <[email hidden]> píse v diskusním príspevku
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I run about 40 miles a week or 1 hour a day 5 days a week. I limited
    my carbs to 125 grams a day for 2 weeks as a test. I was a friggen
    mess I had no energy and could not run at anywhere near more normal
    pace.

    a) two weeks it too short
    b) 125 g is too high
    c) I guess whether there is some psychosomatic mechanism 🙂

    Other than that, limiting carbs will deplete your glycogen stores. Lack
    of glycogen makes anaerobic exercise difficult. Anyway, long distance
    running is basically an aerobic exercise, so you should be OK. But it is
    possible that you have learned your body to perform it as the anaerobic
    one.

    If you would like to cut your carbs (which you dont, you was just
    experimenting), I would suggest to slow-down your running for a while or
    replace it by walking and then slowly work it up back. There is some
    adaptation possible over time.

    Mirek

  5. Quoted message said:

    dehydrated meat - the ultimate low-carb meal bar). A 1/2 pound daily
    ration allowed a man to paddle and portage from sunup to sundown.

    Dr. Chung would be pleased 🙂

    Mirek

  6. (Ray Audette) said:

    jt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Other than the aforementioned exercise I am basically sedentary
    sitting at a desk all day,driving a car, etc. I certianly don't
    expend anywhere near the energy of the average person from 100 years
    ago.


    My ancestors ( French Canadain Voyagers ) paddled their canoes from
    Quebec to British Columbia every year for the fur trade. During this
    9 month journey they ate almost nothing but Pemmican ( fat and
    dehydrated meat - the ultimate low-carb meal bar). A 1/2 pound daily
    ration allowed a man to paddle and portage from sunup to sundown.

    Low carb diets have been shown in clinical trials to improve the
    performance of runners. See:
    "High-fat diets help athletes perform."
    ScienceNews Vol.149 No. 18 (May 4, 1996) 287.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    Show me any world class runner or cyclist on a low carb diet. There
    are none. So I don't know how it would improve performance.

  7. drhowarddrfinedrhoward said:

    It's been a while but you need to read Protein Power and Neanderthin. Both
    low carb books. Protein Power in particular discusses what you are talking
    about.

    What man used to do is short bursts of high energy, then lay around all day.
    Running for one hour every day is not what the normal man would do. Why
    would he? Sure he'd run from a lion, but that wouldn't require an hour of
    running. Nor would he run after game for an hour straight without stopping.

    So what you are doing is what is unusual for a human being.


    Total energy expenditure I would think is what counts. However
    whether the caveman exercised other than a lot of walking and
    occasional running is besides the point.

    We know that moderate levels of exercise is good for you. I get
    moderate amounts of exercise and I can not function on an atkins diet.
    Atkins diet is for sedentary people only. Exercise actually helps
    your body utilize and burn fat more readily than sedentary person
    among other benefits.

  8. No. It's not for sedentary people. It's for people who wish to lose
    weight. Are you trying to lose weight or eat healthier? If you are trying
    to eat healthier, then you need to read Neanderthin or Protein Power.

    I am not on Atkins. I am on a low carb plan that was started by World Class
    body builder George Turner in the 1950s, long before Atkins.

  9. (Ray Audette) said:
    Quoted message said:


    My ancestors ( French Canadain Voyagers ) paddled their canoes from
    Quebec to British Columbia every year for the fur trade. During this
    9 month journey they ate almost nothing but Pemmican ( fat and
    dehydrated meat - the ultimate low-carb meal bar). A 1/2 pound daily
    ration allowed a man to paddle and portage from sunup to sundown.

    Low carb diets have been shown in clinical trials to improve the
    performance of runners. See:
    "High-fat diets help athletes perform."
    ScienceNews Vol.149 No. 18 (May 4, 1996) 287.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    I'll check it out Ray but all I can tell you in my case is without the
    carbs I could never do my 10K runs 4 times per week. I don't know many
    runners that do low carb.

    RBR

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