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  1. I have been reading about the benefits of taking coconut oil. Three
    teaspoons a day is recommended but how do you take an oil that is solid at
    room temperature?

    Thanks

  2. Get it warmer than room temperature? :P

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    Quoted message said:

    I have been reading about the benefits of taking coconut oil. Three
    teaspoons a day is recommended but how do you take an oil that is solid at
    room temperature?

    Thanks

  3. Buy a can of coconut milk and make a curry. :-)

    Seriously, coconut milk is very low carb, and delicious. It can be mixed
    with just about anything to make a nice creamy soup or drink. Or dessert.

    Skinny
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    Philip Wade said:

    I have been reading about the benefits of taking coconut oil. Three
    teaspoons a day is recommended but how do you take an oil that is solid


    at

    Quoted message said:

    room temperature?

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,
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    Quoted message said:

    I have been reading about the benefits of taking coconut oil. Three
    teaspoons a day is recommended but how do you take an oil that is solid at
    room temperature?

    Thanks


    Warm it slightly and add it to whatever other oil you use for salad
    dressing.
    My favorite way is to just melt it and take a tablespoon about a half
    hour before working out. MCT rocks.
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  5. It's also a great oil for frying because it has a high smoke point and
    doesn't break down to transfat as easily as other oils.

    Kevin Martin (Homebrewer) said:

    Warm it slightly and add it to whatever other oil you use for salad
    dressing.
    My favorite way is to just melt it and take a tablespoon about a half
    hour before working out. MCT rocks.

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    Bev

  6. Ignoramus32597 said:

    I have not seen it in stores...

    Look for it in a health food store. It should be in solid form.

    Quoted message said:


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    In article said:

    It's also a great oil for frying because it has a high smoke point and
    doesn't break down to transfat as easily as other oils.

    Kevin Martin (Homebrewer) said:

    Warm it slightly and add it to whatever other oil you use for salad
    dressing.
    My favorite way is to just melt it and take a tablespoon about a half
    hour before working out. MCT rocks.

    Bev

  7. I get it from my natural foods grocery store. It's in plastic bottles.

    Ignoramus32597 said:

    I have not seen it in stores...

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    Bev

  8. Ignoramus32597 said:

    I have not seen it in stores...

    I have seen it in the health food section of my grocery. Very cheap. But
    it's in a very weird shaped bottle for a fat that is not "pourable". It
    has such a slim neck one would think it was salad dressing. So when I want
    coconut I just buy coconut milk and cook stuff in that. Coconut is good
    for people who are hypothyroid, apparently.

  9. Ignoramus32597 said:

    Thanks CM and others. Just what is coconut milk, what is it composed
    of? I know that it comes from the interior of a coconut and I drank it
    before, but I do not know what it is, is it mainly water or mainly
    fat?

    It's been quite a while since I've used/purchased any, but I think the
    "milk" is simply a very high-fat liquid. When I buy coconut milk in a can
    (usually found in the "drink mixer" section of a grocery store) and I open
    it without shaking, there is an awful lot of solid cream by proportion in
    it.

    That's my best guess. Hopefully someone with more knowledge about it can
    post.

  10. In Ignoramus32597 said:
    In article said:
    Ignoramus32597 said:

    I have not seen it in stores...

    I have seen it in the health food section of my grocery. Very cheap.
    But it's in a very weird shaped bottle for a fat that is not
    "pourable". It has such a slim neck one would think it was salad
    dressing. So when I want coconut I just buy coconut milk and cook
    stuff in that. Coconut is good for people who are hypothyroid,
    apparently.

    Thanks CM and others. Just what is coconut milk, what is it composed
    of? I know that it comes from the interior of a coconut and I drank it
    before, but I do not know what it is, is it mainly water or mainly
    fat?

    i

    If you drank the liquid in the center of the coconut, that is coconut
    water...tasty, but mostly sugar and really no fat. coconut milk is from
    the solid part of the coconut..it's been grated and processed with hot
    water to get the coconut milk..that has a lot of fat. 🙂

  11. Crafting Mom said:
    Ignoramus32597 said:

    Thanks CM and others. Just what is coconut milk, what is it composed
    of? I know that it comes from the interior of a coconut and I drank it
    before, but I do not know what it is, is it mainly water or mainly
    fat?

    It's been quite a while since I've used/purchased any, but I think the
    "milk" is simply a very high-fat liquid. When I buy coconut milk in a can
    (usually found in the "drink mixer" section of a grocery store) and I open
    it without shaking, there is an awful lot of solid cream by proportion in
    it.

    The stuff that you get from the inside of a coconut is mainly water,
    and isn't particularly fattening (or carby). However, when you buy
    commercial coconut milk, that's made by grating coconuts, pressing it
    out, and mixing the expressed stuff with water. (If you don't mix it
    with water, you get coconut cream.) Coconut milk is very high in fat,
    but low in carbohydrate.

  12. I was just posting about coconut milk elsewhere. I use it a lot, and it's a
    staple in Asian cooking. They use it kind of like some USians use condensed
    milk or cream: as a base for sauces, soups, drinks, desserts.... Rich rice
    dishes can be made by cooking the rice in coconut milk instead of in water
    (all or part), and it might make the rice carbs a little slower to absorb.

    I get Chaokoh (fewer additives) in the supermarket on the oriental foods
    shelf, along with water chestnuts, soy sauce, etc. It's cheaper in an Asian
    import food store if you have one handy. Or various other brands in the
    Asian store.

    Sometimes I use Thai Kitchen (check the label) from the organic produce
    store -- oddly more additives. It tends to be thinner than the other
    brands: more of the 'coconut water' and less of the 'fat/oil.'

    They both separate in the can if kept in a cool cupboard or in fridge, so
    you can use either part you want or mix to taste. (Thai Kitchen separates
    more cleanly.) I love the cool crust of the 'fat' as a treat, it reminds me
    of some very expensive after dinner thin candy sort of thing, tastes like
    slightly sweetened whipped cream.... (But then I'm wierd, I eat cold butter
    the same way.)

    Dunno how the actual oil content compares with a refined oil marketed as a
    supplement, or if the supplement is trying to leave out some of the stuff
    that's in the fat. That said, if I wanted a measured amount, I'd take off
    some crust, warm it till it was liquid and measure the right amount, then
    cool it again and eat it as 'candy'. Or let it get a bit thicker and use it
    like whipped cream, on fruit or something.

    mimsy said:
    In Ignoramus32597 said:
    In article said:

    Ignoramus32597 wrote:

    > I have not seen it in stores...

    I have seen it in the health food section of my grocery. Very cheap.
    But it's in a very weird shaped bottle for a fat that is not
    "pourable". It has such a slim neck one would think it was salad
    dressing. So when I want coconut I just buy coconut milk and cook
    stuff in that.

    Me too.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Coconut is good for people who are hypothyroid,
    apparently.

    Dunno about that, but Indian curries are said to be comparatively 'low
    glycemic' (ie slow carbs) considering their ingredients. Might be from
    their spices. There was a good thread on that at alt.support.diabetes a
    while ago.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Thanks CM and others. Just what is coconut milk, what is it composed
    of? I know that it comes from the interior of a coconut and I drank it
    before, but I do not know what it is, is it mainly water or mainly
    fat?

    i

    If you drank the liquid in the center of the coconut, that is coconut
    water...tasty, but mostly sugar and really no fat. coconut milk is from
    the solid part of the coconut..it's been grated and processed with hot
    water to get the coconut milk..that has a lot of fat. 🙂

    My impression is that the cans of 'coconut milk' I buy have some of both.
    I've drunk the liquid straight out of a fresh coconut, and it is like the
    liquid that separates in the bottom of the can. According to the label the
    'sugar' content of the whole can isn't much, and to me the fat tastes as
    sweet as the liquid.

    Skinny

  13. I see nothing good about coconut oil. It is recommended by the
    people selling coconut oil and by quacks.

    Here is an unbiased study on coconut oil:

    A Malaysian study (Ng et al., 1991) was conducted to compare the
    effects of diets containing palm oil (olein), corn oil and coconut oil
    on serum cholesterol. Coconut oil raised serum total cholesterol by >
    10% whereas both corn and palm oil diet reduced the total cholesterol;
    corn oil diet reduced the total cholesterol by 36% and palm oil diet
    by 19%.

    ..

    Philip Wade said:

    I have been reading about the benefits of taking coconut oil. Three
    teaspoons a day is recommended but how do you take an oil that is solid at
    room temperature?

    Thanks

  14. And:

    A Netherlands study was conducted on rabbits to test the effect of
    palm oil on atherosclerosis (Hornstra, 1988). After feeding the
    rabbits for 11/2 years, palm oil and sunflower oil diets caused the
    lowest degree of atherosclerosis in comparison with fish oil, linseed
    oil and olive oil.

    Similarly Kurfeld et al. (1990) in the United States, also using the
    rabbit model, compared the effects of palm oil with hydrogenated
    coconut oil, cottonseed oil, hydrogenated cottonseed oil, and an
    American fat blend containing a mixture of butterfat, tallow, lard,
    shortening, salad oil, peanut oil and corn oil. At the end of the
    14-month feeding period, coconut oil fed rabbits had the most
    atherosclerotic lesions, while in palm oil-fed rabbits the number of
    lesions was no different from that with the other oils.
    ------

    I recommend you avoid coconut oil. It is proved by unbiased studies
    to be hazardous to your health.

    PJx said:


    I see nothing good about coconut oil. It is recommended by the
    people selling coconut oil and by quacks.

    Here is an unbiased study on coconut oil:

    A Malaysian study (Ng et al., 1991) was conducted to compare the
    effects of diets containing palm oil (olein), corn oil and coconut oil
    on serum cholesterol. Coconut oil raised serum total cholesterol by >
    10% whereas both corn and palm oil diet reduced the total cholesterol;
    corn oil diet reduced the total cholesterol by 36% and palm oil diet
    by 19%.

    .

    Philip Wade said:

    I have been reading about the benefits of taking coconut oil. Three
    teaspoons a day is recommended but how do you take an oil that is solid at
    room temperature?

    Thanks

  15. Quoted message said:

    Similarly Kurfeld et al. (1990) in the United States, also using the
    rabbit model, compared the effects of palm oil with hydrogenated
    coconut oil,

    Why hydrogenated? It's a well known fact that hydrogenated oils are bad. What
    about UNprocessed coconut oil? Any of your "unbiased" studies on that?

  16. Philip Wade said:


    I have been reading about the benefits of taking coconut oil. Three
    teaspoons a day is recommended but how do you take an oil that is solid at
    room temperature?

    I probably take that much butter each day and it's solid at room
    temperature. Coconut oil is softer than butter, so you could use
    it sort of like those spreadible-margarine deals. Squeeze it on
    something and spread it with a knife.

    It also works fine for frying, rather like butter or lard.

    Either way it will seem strange at first and take some getting
    used to it, then in a month or so you will notice that once you
    are used to it you like it. Think of it as a learning curve.

  17. Doug Freyburger said:
    Philip Wade said:

    I have been reading about the benefits of taking coconut oil. Three
    teaspoons a day is recommended but how do you take an oil that is solid at
    room temperature?

    I probably take that much butter each day and it's solid at room
    temperature. Coconut oil is softer than butter, so you could use
    it sort of like those spreadible-margarine deals. Squeeze it on
    something and spread it with a knife.

    It also works fine for frying, rather like butter or lard.

    Either way it will seem strange at first and take some getting
    used to it, then in a month or so you will notice that once you
    are used to it you like it. Think of it as a learning curve.

    It is the best oil for making omlettes. I was very dissappointed that
    my Trader Joe's stopped carrying it, apparently I was the only one
    buying it. They sold it in a jar and I noticed that it liquifies at
    about 80 degrees. When it was cooler than that in my house it would be
    a white solid - easier to measure that way actually. I'm hoping they
    bring it back, sometimes they do.

    brigdi

  18. Ignoramus32597 said:
    In article said:

    And:

    A Netherlands study was conducted on rabbits to test the effect of
    palm oil on atherosclerosis (Hornstra, 1988). After feeding the
    rabbits for 11/2 years, palm oil and sunflower oil diets caused the
    lowest degree of atherosclerosis in comparison with fish oil, linseed
    oil and olive oil.

    I have nothing to say about benefits or dangers of coconut oil, but I
    want to point out that people are not rabbits and we have completely
    different digestive systems. Feeding rabbits with meat has terrible
    effect on them, whereas feeding people meat does not. Rabbits are not
    omnivores like us.

    i

    In 1988, they probably used partially hydrogenated oils.

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