Fiber

"J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber
from grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber
you can get in pills from pharmacy?
Jerry

Sure, any fiber is likely good. However, since fiber is carbs
you can not subtract the fiber
suppliment from your other carbs, they have a net balance of 0
Effective Carbs..

Example food:
Total Carbs 10
Fiber 5
---------------------
Effective Carbs 5

Fiber Supplement:
Total Carbs 5
Fiber 5
---------------------
Effective Carbs 0

J said:

Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from
grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can get
in pills from pharmacy?

In general, a fiber supplement is a good idea IF YOU NEED IT, and
taking one has pretty much no effect on your LCing. I.e. if you take
it, just ignore it when computing daily carbs. It neither counts
against your daily limit, nor negates other carbs.

Note that this assumes your fiber supplement uses an artificial
sweetener, and not real sugar, to make it palatable. Check the label
like any other food. If the total carbs are accounted for in the
fiber counts, you're all set.

DJ,

How about fiber pills/capsules? Which is better, pills or powdered stuff,
assuming you don't get enough fiber from the food you eat

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"DJ Delorie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

J said:

Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from
grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can get
in pills from pharmacy?

In general, a fiber supplement is a good idea IF YOU NEED IT, and
taking one has pretty much no effect on your LCing. I.e. if you take
it, just ignore it when computing daily carbs. It neither counts
against your daily limit, nor negates other carbs.

Note that this assumes your fiber supplement uses an artificial
sweetener, and not real sugar, to make it palatable. Check the label
like any other food. If the total carbs are accounted for in the
fiber counts, you're all set.

You have to take a lot of capsules to get the fiber in a spoonful of the
powder, much more expensive in capsules, too.

In news:[email hidden],
Lady o' the house <[email hidden]> stated
| DJ,
|
| How about fiber pills/capsules? Which is better, pills or powdered
| stuff, assuming you don't get enough fiber from the food you eat
|
| --
| Linda
| 296/199/160
| LC since Oct. 13, 2003
| http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
|
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| "DJ Delorie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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|| J <[email hidden]> writes:
||| Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from
||| grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can get
||| in pills from pharmacy?
||
|| In general, a fiber supplement is a good idea IF YOU NEED IT, and
|| taking one has pretty much no effect on your LCing. I.e. if you take
|| it, just ignore it when computing daily carbs. It neither counts
|| against your daily limit, nor negates other carbs.
||
|| Note that this assumes your fiber supplement uses an artificial
|| sweetener, and not real sugar, to make it palatable. Check the label
|| like any other food. If the total carbs are accounted for in the
|| fiber counts, you're all set.

Lady o' the house said:

How about fiber pills/capsules? Which is better, pills or powdered stuff,
assuming you don't get enough fiber from the food you eat

I have no experience with the pills; I suspect they could get by
without artificial flavorings at all. I've gotten used to the powder.
Also, compare the amount of fiber you get from each.

FOB wrote:
|| You have to take a lot of capsules to get the fiber in a spoonful of
|| the powder, much more expensive in capsules, too.
||

Why? There is something else in the capsules?

||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| Lady o' the house <[email hidden]> stated
||| DJ,
|||
||| How about fiber pills/capsules? Which is better, pills or powdered
||| stuff, assuming you don't get enough fiber from the food you eat
|||
||| --
||| Linda
||| 296/199/160
||| LC since Oct. 13, 2003
||| http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
|||
|||
||| "DJ Delorie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||| news:[email hidden]...
||||
|||| J <[email hidden]> writes:
||||| Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from
||||| grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can
||||| get in pills from pharmacy?
||||
|||| In general, a fiber supplement is a good idea IF YOU NEED IT, and
|||| taking one has pretty much no effect on your LCing. I.e. if you
|||| take it, just ignore it when computing daily carbs. It neither
|||| counts against your daily limit, nor negates other carbs.
||||
|||| Note that this assumes your fiber supplement uses an artificial
|||| sweetener, and not real sugar, to make it palatable. Check the
|||| label like any other food. If the total carbs are accounted for
|||| in the fiber counts, you're all set.

J said:

Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from
grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can get
in pills from pharmacy?
Jerry

Sure. But you can't use it to subtract from the other carbs you eat.
The reason you can subtract the fiber in (for example) broccoli from the
total carb count of broccoli is because the fiber grams have been counted as
carbs but they go right through you without being digested.
If you eat candy that has no fiber then take a fiber supplement it doesn't
offset the sugar carbs.

Quoted message said:

J said:

Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from
grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can get
in pills from pharmacy?
Jerry

Sure. But you can't use it to subtract from the other carbs you eat.
The reason you can subtract the fiber in (for example) broccoli from the
total carb count of broccoli is because the fiber grams have been counted

as

Quoted message said:

carbs but they go right through you without being digested.
If you eat candy that has no fiber then take a fiber supplement it doesn't
offset the sugar carbs.

Yeah, you're right. I think the OP was looking for some kind of a loop
hole...a fantasy loop hole.

Pat in TX

Quoted message said:

No, it's a matter of volume.

In news:[email hidden],
Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
| FOB wrote:
||| You have to take a lot of capsules to get the fiber in a spoonful of
||| the powder, much more expensive in capsules, too.
|||
|
| Why? There is something else in the capsules?
|
|
|
|||
||| In news:[email hidden],
||| Lady o' the house <[email hidden]> stated
|||| DJ,
||||
|||| How about fiber pills/capsules? Which is better, pills or powdered
|||| stuff, assuming you don't get enough fiber from the food you eat
||||
|||| --
|||| Linda
|||| 296/199/160
|||| LC since Oct. 13, 2003
|||| http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
||||
||||
|||| "DJ Delorie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|||| news:[email hidden]...
|||||
||||| J <[email hidden]> writes:
|||||| Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber
|||||| from grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber
|||||| you can get in pills from pharmacy?
|||||
||||| In general, a fiber supplement is a good idea IF YOU NEED IT, and
||||| taking one has pretty much no effect on your LCing. I.e. if you
||||| take it, just ignore it when computing daily carbs. It neither
||||| counts against your daily limit, nor negates other carbs.
|||||
||||| Note that this assumes your fiber supplement uses an artificial
||||| sweetener, and not real sugar, to make it palatable. Check the
||||| label like any other food. If the total carbs are accounted for
||||| in the fiber counts, you're all set.

"J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from grams
of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can get in pills
from pharmacy?
Jerry

I take Metamucil every day. Keeps my commode in a job.

Jeri said:

J said:

Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from
grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can get
in pills from pharmacy?
Jerry

Sure. But you can't use it to subtract from the other carbs you eat.
The reason you can subtract the fiber in (for example) broccoli from the
total carb count of broccoli is because the fiber grams have been counted as
carbs but they go right through you without being digested.
If you eat candy that has no fiber then take a fiber supplement it doesn't
offset the sugar carbs.

Or any other carbs, not just sugar. The only time you subtract the fiber to
get "net carbs" is if they're all on the same product label chart. That's
becasue FDA regulations make the manufacturer add the fiber grams and the
sugar grams or whatever to make a "Total Carb" figure on their chart. So on
a label we can take the fiber back out of that figure.

So taking a fiber supplement (or eating fiber vegs etc) won't destroy the
carbs in something else you're eating. However if you eat them at the same
time, the fiber can slow down the absorbtion of the other carbs, which can
help in some cases. The longer it takes the carbs to absorb, the longer
before you're hungry again. Oil can do the same thing: for example the
sugar in ice cream that has a lot of fat is slower to absorb than the same
amount of sugar alone. If a dish of lasagna has a lot of veggies and oil in
it, will slow down the carbs in the pasta. Or a salad of veg and oil eaten
at the same tima as pasta will slow it down. For comparisons of the speed
of different foods, search for "Glycemic Index" and "Glycemic Load".

Skinny

FOB wrote:
:: No, it's a matter of volume.

The capsule material itself takes up a lot of volume, so you have less
fiber?

::
:: In news:[email hidden],
:: Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
::: FOB wrote:
::::: You have to take a lot of capsules to get the fiber in a spoonful
::::: of the powder, much more expensive in capsules, too.
:::::
:::
::: Why? There is something else in the capsules?
:::
:::
:::
:::::
::::: In
::::: news:[email hidden],
::::: Lady o' the house <[email hidden]> stated
:::::: DJ,
::::::
:::::: How about fiber pills/capsules? Which is better, pills or
:::::: powdered stuff, assuming you don't get enough fiber from the
:::::: food you eat
::::::
:::::: --
:::::: Linda
:::::: 296/199/160
:::::: LC since Oct. 13, 2003
:::::: http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
::::::
::::::
:::::: "DJ Delorie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:::::: news:[email hidden]...
:::::::
::::::: J <[email hidden]> writes:
:::::::: Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber
:::::::: from grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber
:::::::: you can get in pills from pharmacy?
:::::::
::::::: In general, a fiber supplement is a good idea IF YOU NEED IT,
::::::: and taking one has pretty much no effect on your LCing. I.e.
::::::: if you take it, just ignore it when computing daily carbs. It
::::::: neither counts against your daily limit, nor negates other
::::::: carbs.
:::::::
::::::: Note that this assumes your fiber supplement uses an artificial
::::::: sweetener, and not real sugar, to make it palatable. Check the
::::::: label like any other food. If the total carbs are accounted for
::::::: in the fiber counts, you're all set.

J said:

Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber from grams
of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber you can get in pills
from pharmacy?
Jerry

well, it is like this.

Take the fiber pill.... and say it has 10 grams of fiber (carbohydrate
not digested).

Add the 10 grams of ingested carbohydrate to your dietary intake.

Then, you can subtract the 10 grams because it is undigested ingested
carbohydrate.

So, you get zero net added (digestible) carbohydrates from the fiber pill.

You can't use 50 grams of pill fiber to eliminate 50 grams of Mars Bars
suger that you ate an hour ago.

You can't graze in the hay field and eat all the sugar you want, to put
it another way.

Jim

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It takes several capsules to equal the volume of a heaping teaspoon of
powder which is the prescribed dose.

In news:[email hidden],
Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
| FOB wrote:
||| No, it's a matter of volume.
|
| The capsule material itself takes up a lot of volume, so you have less
| fiber?
|
|||
||| In news:[email hidden],
||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
|||| FOB wrote:
|||||| You have to take a lot of capsules to get the fiber in a spoonful
|||||| of the powder, much more expensive in capsules, too.
||||||
||||
|||| Why? There is something else in the capsules?
||||
||||
||||
||||||
|||||| In
|||||| news:[email hidden],
|||||| Lady o' the house <[email hidden]> stated
||||||| DJ,
|||||||
||||||| How about fiber pills/capsules? Which is better, pills or
||||||| powdered stuff, assuming you don't get enough fiber from the
||||||| food you eat
|||||||
||||||| --
||||||| Linda
||||||| 296/199/160
||||||| LC since Oct. 13, 2003
||||||| http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
|||||||
|||||||
||||||| "DJ Delorie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||||||| news:[email hidden]...
||||||||
|||||||| J <[email hidden]> writes:
||||||||| Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of fiber
||||||||| from grams of carbs is is ok to have some supplementary fiber
||||||||| you can get in pills from pharmacy?
||||||||
|||||||| In general, a fiber supplement is a good idea IF YOU NEED IT,
|||||||| and taking one has pretty much no effect on your LCing. I.e.
|||||||| if you take it, just ignore it when computing daily carbs. It
|||||||| neither counts against your daily limit, nor negates other
|||||||| carbs.
||||||||
|||||||| Note that this assumes your fiber supplement uses an artificial
|||||||| sweetener, and not real sugar, to make it palatable. Check the
|||||||| label like any other food. If the total carbs are accounted
|||||||| for in the fiber counts, you're all set.

My favorite source of fiber is cocoa powder.

FOB wrote:
:: It takes several capsules to equal the volume of a heaping teaspoon
:: of powder which is the prescribed dose.

Then the issue must be expense...I've never had any problems wolfing down
several capsules with a glass of water, whereas with the powder it generally
needs to be mixed with stuff. Of course, with these high-fiber LC
tortillas, along with veggies, one can get lots of fiber without the need
for capsules. Heck, I got 51 g of fiber yesterday.

::
:: In news:[email hidden],
:: Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
::: FOB wrote:
::::: No, it's a matter of volume.
:::
::: The capsule material itself takes up a lot of volume, so you have
::: less fiber?
:::
:::::
::::: In news:[email hidden],
::::: Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> stated
:::::: FOB wrote:
:::::::: You have to take a lot of capsules to get the fiber in a
:::::::: spoonful of the powder, much more expensive in capsules, too.
::::::::
::::::
:::::: Why? There is something else in the capsules?
::::::
::::::
::::::
::::::::
:::::::: In
:::::::: news:[email hidden],
:::::::: Lady o' the house <[email hidden]> stated
::::::::: DJ,
:::::::::
::::::::: How about fiber pills/capsules? Which is better, pills or
::::::::: powdered stuff, assuming you don't get enough fiber from the
::::::::: food you eat
:::::::::
::::::::: --
::::::::: Linda
::::::::: 296/199/160
::::::::: LC since Oct. 13, 2003
::::::::: http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
:::::::::
:::::::::
::::::::: "DJ Delorie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
::::::::: news:[email hidden]...
::::::::::
:::::::::: J <[email hidden]> writes:
::::::::::: Since (if I understand correctly) you subtract grams of
::::::::::: fiber from grams of carbs is is ok to have some
::::::::::: supplementary fiber you can get in pills from pharmacy?
::::::::::
:::::::::: In general, a fiber supplement is a good idea IF YOU NEED IT,
:::::::::: and taking one has pretty much no effect on your LCing. I.e.
:::::::::: if you take it, just ignore it when computing daily carbs.
:::::::::: It neither counts against your daily limit, nor negates other
:::::::::: carbs.
::::::::::
:::::::::: Note that this assumes your fiber supplement uses an
:::::::::: artificial sweetener, and not real sugar, to make it
:::::::::: palatable. Check the label like any other food. If the
:::::::::: total carbs are accounted for in the fiber counts, you're
:::::::::: all set.

jbuch wrote:
:: You can't graze in the hay field and eat all the sugar you want, to
:: put it another way.

Well, if you ate enough hay so that you didn't want much sugar, you could 🙂

I add it to my morning protein shake. The result is like cake frosting.

1 scoop of low carb Isopure (it comes with the scooper)
1 ounce of cocoa powder
2 ounces of coconut milk
10 drops of peppermint extract
lots of liquid splenda (about 100 drops)
add a tiny bit of water, as needed

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Quoted message said:

In article said:

My favorite source of fiber is cocoa powder.

how do you eat it?

i

jbuch said:

well, it is like this.

Take the fiber pill.... and say it has 10 grams of fiber (carbohydrate
not digested).

10 grams? That would be like swallowing a walnut in the shell, whole.

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