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  1. Guys,

    I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    following this at work and now on the newsgroups.

    I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal
    online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like to
    see it. I am really surprised how I have adapted to virtually no
    carbs.. no more bagels in the morning, no sub rolls, no rice/potatoe at
    dinner, and being a big milk drinker - this has been tough. I do miss
    my bad Chinese food take out - all that stuff convered in batter.

    Best regards,

    Paul
    about 80lbs to go..yikes...

  2. Which book?

    Most people who've been successful have counted calories.

    --
    Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at
    birth?

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Guys,

    I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    following this at work and now on the newsgroups.

    I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal
    online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like to
    see it. I am really surprised how I have adapted to virtually no
    carbs.. no more bagels in the morning, no sub rolls, no rice/potatoe at
    dinner, and being a big milk drinker - this has been tough. I do miss
    my bad Chinese food take out - all that stuff convered in batter.

    Best regards,

    Paul
    about 80lbs to go..yikes...

  3. Good Question.. I guess I mean the Atkins book.. but I guess there many
    others..

    ok, I figured that was probably the case..

    Thanks for the reply.

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Which book?

    Most people who've been successful have counted calories.

  4. How big a problem is your weight to you?

    I'm guessing it's important to you or else why would you be here.

    If something is important to you and you want to be successful... you
    have to have a strong foundation.

    Not reading ANY lower carb book is not starting you off with the best
    chances.

    I'd go with the odds... do ALL you can to guarantee success.

    And that means reading which ever book you choose, for yourself.

    Jennifer

    Paul said:

    Guys,

    I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    following this at work and now on the newsgroups.

    I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal
    online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like to
    see it. I am really surprised how I have adapted to virtually no
    carbs.. no more bagels in the morning, no sub rolls, no rice/potatoe at
    dinner, and being a big milk drinker - this has been tough. I do miss
    my bad Chinese food take out - all that stuff convered in batter.

    Best regards,

    Paul
    about 80lbs to go..yikes...

  5. I'd suggest reading more than one diet book. The more books you read, the
    more ideas you are exposed to. It also helps to read stuff that isn't
    written by guys trying to get rich off of branded diets. Lyle MacDonald's
    Ketogenic Diet is a very good example, but I also learned a lot from books
    like Fat: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic and The Hungry Gene. One book that
    taught me an enormous amount about dieting is summarized on my web site at
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/success.htm It's out of print now,
    but it's lessons have been invaluable to me in both losing weight and, most
    importantly, keeping it off.

    Once you understand the principles of how these diets work, you can try out
    different approaches and see which works best for you. There is no "one
    true way" when it comes to diet. Each body is different, so the real trick
    is to learn something about the underlying processes and then to observe and
    study how your own works and how to get it to do what you want it to do.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Guys,

    I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    following this at work and now on the newsgroups.

    I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal
    online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like to
    see it. I am really surprised how I have adapted to virtually no
    carbs.. no more bagels in the morning, no sub rolls, no rice/potatoe at
    dinner, and being a big milk drinker - this has been tough. I do miss
    my bad Chinese food take out - all that stuff convered in batter.

    Best regards,

    Paul
    about 80lbs to go..yikes...

  6. Thank you for the reply.. I am going to take your advice and I am off to
    check your site now.

    Regards,
    Paul

    Jenny said:

    I'd suggest reading more than one diet book. The more books you read, the
    more ideas you are exposed to. It also helps to read stuff that isn't
    written by guys trying to get rich off of branded diets. Lyle MacDonald's
    Ketogenic Diet is a very good example, but I also learned a lot from books
    like Fat: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic and The Hungry Gene. One book that
    taught me an enormous amount about dieting is summarized on my web site at
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/success.htm It's out of print now,
    but it's lessons have been invaluable to me in both losing weight and, most
    importantly, keeping it off.

    Once you understand the principles of how these diets work, you can try out
    different approaches and see which works best for you. There is no "one
    true way" when it comes to diet. Each body is different, so the real trick
    is to learn something about the underlying processes and then to observe and
    study how your own works and how to get it to do what you want it to do.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Guys,

    I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    following this at work and now on the newsgroups.

    I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal
    online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like to
    see it. I am really surprised how I have adapted to virtually no
    carbs.. no more bagels in the morning, no sub rolls, no rice/potatoe at
    dinner, and being a big milk drinker - this has been tough. I do miss
    my bad Chinese food take out - all that stuff convered in batter.

    Best regards,

    Paul
    about 80lbs to go..yikes...

  7. Here's a site that gives a synopsis of different plans so you can chose
    which books you might want to look at.

    http://www.lowcarb.ca/atkins-diet-and-low-carb-plans/

    Paul said:

    Thank you for the reply.. I am going to take your advice and I am off to
    check your site now.

    -----
    Bev

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Hi Paul, welcome to the group!

    Quoted message said:

    I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    following this at work and now on the newsgroups.

    One of the WORST ways to begin low-carbing is to do it on the basis of info
    gleaned from co-workers. There is so much misinformation out there that it's
    downright LUDICROUS. I STRONGLY suggest you obtain a book for a low-carb plan
    (Atkins, South Beach, etc.) and READ it. The information you get in this
    newsgroup will be more reliable than from acquaintances, but it's still no
    substitute.

    Quoted message said:

    I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal

    I've counted calories since starting Atkins over a year ago; however, I did it at
    first just so I would know what I was getting -- I did not LOWER the calories
    until about January of this year.

    Quoted message said:

    online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like to
    see it. I am really surprised how I have adapted to virtually no
    carbs.. no more bagels in the morning, no sub rolls, no rice/potatoe at
    dinner, and being a big milk drinker - this has been tough. I do miss
    my bad Chinese food take out - all that stuff convered in batter.

    Be sure that the carbs you DO get consist mostly of vegetables.

    --
    Saffire
    205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  9. Paul said:

    I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    following this at work and now on the newsgroups.

    I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal
    online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like to
    see it.

    Calories haven't been a factor in my weight loss. Here's a typical day
    from last year, on Atkins (I've been on Bernstein, and will probably return
    to Atkins Land).

    BREAKFAST
    Atkins or Keto shake (from a powdered mix, and with added heavy cream)
    or eggs
    or flax meal cereal
    or Keto oatmeal hot cereal
    bacon or breakfast sausage was sometimes added

    LUNCH
    1/4 head of iceberg lettuce
    olive oil, red wine vinegar, Italian seasoning, Parmesan cheese
    (Or a Chef's salad)
    Protein:
    1/4 pound hamburger
    boneless, skinless chicken breast
    boneless pork chop

    DINNER
    large serving of Broccoli, drowned in butter
    hamburger, steak, chicken, shrimp, pork chop or roast, fish, etc.

    I pretty much stuck to that meal plan on a daily basis, the consistent
    factors being the large salad at lunch and the heap o' broccoli at dinner.

    Lost 40 pounds in 6 months. Then I got stupid. Don't get stupid. <G>

    Carol

  10. What is a calorie anyhow? Freak, I have noooooo clue. Seriously. 🙂

    291/268/220? | Atkins 7/12/04 - Current
    335/264/220? | Atkins 9/5/00 - 3/5/01

    Yep, that is my signature, haven't counted any calories. Although, I *DO*
    expect that once I get closer to my goal weight, sitting on my butt and not
    paying attention to calories won't help me. But for now... Low-carb is
    working like champ and I don't plan on breaking that cycle soon.

    Once I get down lower in weight, probably another 30lbs or so... I will feel
    more like doing exercises, going for walks and doing things that are well,
    healthy for me.

    Hopefully by Christmas I will be in the 23x range. That is my goal. I hope I
    can do it and my wife doesn't get tired of cooking low-carb. She just said
    today she is getting burned out. Plus, we have a new one coming in November
    so, that will impact my ability for a few weeks until my wife recovers.

    Scott
    291/268/220? | Atkins 7/12/04 - Current
    335/264/220? | Atkins 9/5/00 - 3/5/01

    Paul said:

    Guys,

    I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    following this at work and now on the newsgroups.

    I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal
    online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like to
    see it. I am really surprised how I have adapted to virtually no
    carbs.. no more bagels in the morning, no sub rolls, no rice/potatoe at
    dinner, and being a big milk drinker - this has been tough. I do miss
    my bad Chinese food take out - all that stuff convered in batter.

    Best regards,

    Paul
    about 80lbs to go..yikes...

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, Me <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    What is a calorie anyhow? Freak, I have noooooo clue. Seriously. 🙂

    It's a unit of energy. Specifically, it's the amount of energy required
    to raise the temperature of a very small amount of water (one cubic
    centimeter?) one degree Celsius. Calorie counts are the measure of the
    amount of energy you can get from specific foods.

    Priscilla

  12. I suggest that you learn to cook. It is not difficult and you could be very
    helpful to your wife if you did.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Me <[email hidden]> stated
    | What is a calorie anyhow? Freak, I have noooooo clue. Seriously. 🙂
    |
    | 291/268/220? | Atkins 7/12/04 - Current
    | 335/264/220? | Atkins 9/5/00 - 3/5/01
    |
    | Yep, that is my signature, haven't counted any calories. Although, I
    | *DO* expect that once I get closer to my goal weight, sitting on my
    | butt and not paying attention to calories won't help me. But for
    | now... Low-carb is working like champ and I don't plan on breaking
    | that cycle soon.
    |
    | Once I get down lower in weight, probably another 30lbs or so... I
    | will feel more like doing exercises, going for walks and doing things
    | that are well, healthy for me.
    |
    | Hopefully by Christmas I will be in the 23x range. That is my goal. I
    | hope I can do it and my wife doesn't get tired of cooking low-carb.
    | She just said today she is getting burned out. Plus, we have a new
    | one coming in November so, that will impact my ability for a few
    | weeks until my wife recovers.
    |
    |
    | Scott
    | 291/268/220? | Atkins 7/12/04 - Current
    | 335/264/220? | Atkins 9/5/00 - 3/5/01
    |
    |
    |
    | On 8/21/04 5:34 PM, in article [email hidden], "Paul"
    | <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    || Guys,
    ||
    || I know I should actually buy the book and read it but with everything
    || else I am required to read.. I tap the knowledge of other people
    || following this at work and now on the newsgroups.
    ||
    || I am wondering if people following this counted calories on their
    || weightloss quest? If anyone that has had success and has a journal
    || online that lists what a typical day looked like I would really like
    || to see it. I am really surprised how I have adapted to virtually no
    || carbs.. no more bagels in the morning, no sub rolls, no rice/potatoe
    || at dinner, and being a big milk drinker - this has been tough. I do
    || miss my bad Chinese food take out - all that stuff convered in
    || batter.
    ||
    || Best regards,
    ||
    || Paul
    || about 80lbs to go..yikes...

  13. Priscilla Ballou said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Me <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    What is a calorie anyhow? Freak, I have noooooo clue. Seriously. 🙂

    It's a unit of energy. Specifically, it's the amount of energy required
    to raise the temperature of a very small amount of water (one cubic
    centimeter?) one degree Celsius. Calorie counts are the measure of the
    amount of energy you can get from specific foods.

    Just to make life confusing, there are two different sort of calories.
    The standard calorie (lower-case "c"😉 is the amount of energy required
    to raise one gram of water (which is one cubic centimeter) one degree
    Celsius. But a Calorie (upper-case "c"😉, also known as a kilocalorie,
    is the amount of energy required to raise one kilogram of water one
    degree Celsius. It's that big-C Calorie that's used in discussion of
    food. If you look at British nutritional information on food
    packages, I believe they specifically say "kcal" rather than
    "calories."

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