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  1. Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding steady
    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my belt.
    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low carbing,
    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

  2. Bob La Londe said:

    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding steady
    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my belt.
    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low carbing,
    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

    You didn't mention what calorie count you're watching.

    --
    jamie ([email hidden])

    "There's a seeker born every minute."

  3. How many carbs and calories is that?
    Did you use FitDay?

    "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding


    steady

    Quoted message said:

    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my belt.
    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low carbing,
    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

  4. Bob La Londe said:


    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding steady
    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my belt.
    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    If you're on Atkins, what's your CCLL?

    Quoted message said:

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low carbing,
    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

    That does work for some. High risk strategy.

  5. Have you tried eating less, fatboy?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding


    steady

    Quoted message said:

    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my belt.
    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low carbing,
    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

  6. LOL there you are JC! WORK IT [censored]!

    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Have you tried eating less, fatboy?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding


    steady

    Quoted message said:

    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my


    belt.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low


    carbing,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

  7. You need to hit induction and STAY ON IT until you reach where you want to
    be. It's just that simple!

    I can't believe that you started Atkins over a year ago and only went down
    60 pounds in a year??? Do you realize you could be in the 170's or 180's
    right now??? As in months ago???

    Don't listen to these idiots who say you can only be on induction for two
    weeks, anyone who READS the book or the website can clearly see it says up
    to 6 months or LONGER provided your health is ok.

    If you want to take years to lose it, thats your stupidity!
    "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding


    steady

    Quoted message said:

    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my belt.
    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low carbing,
    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

  8. Um, Sam, not everyone has to do it _your_ way, ok? Some people stall while
    still on induction. Some people would rather lose a little bit slower but
    have more variety in their diet while doing it. Some people lose faster
    when they add more vegetables in, because they end up lowering calories
    overall. Not just carbs matter, calories count too. And anyway, it's not
    a race, ok? It's about finding a way you can eat and lose weight and
    _maintain_ it for life.

    I mean, sure, you CAN stay on induction for 6 months, sure, go ahead. If
    your priority is to lose as much weight as quickly as possible, and you
    don't care about things like learning how to change your eating into
    something healthy you can live with for the rest of your life, if you don't
    care about the potential emotional issues of losing a large amount of
    weight quickly without having time to adjust to it, if you don't care about
    the potential of having huge flaps of skin hanging off your body, and if
    your body is one of the ones that actually _will_ lose faster by staying on
    induction. That may be you Sam, but it's not everyone.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sam Marks said:

    You need to hit induction and STAY ON IT until you reach where you want to
    be. It's just that simple!

    I can't believe that you started Atkins over a year ago and only went down
    60 pounds in a year??? Do you realize you could be in the 170's or 180's
    right now??? As in months ago???

    Don't listen to these idiots who say you can only be on induction for two
    weeks, anyone who READS the book or the website can clearly see it says up
    to 6 months or LONGER provided your health is ok.

    If you want to take years to lose it, thats your stupidity!
    "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding


    steady

    Quoted message said:

    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my belt.
    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low carbing,
    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  9. "Sam Marks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You need to hit induction and STAY ON IT until you reach where you want to
    be. It's just that simple!

    I can't believe that you started Atkins over a year ago and only went down
    60 pounds in a year??? Do you realize you could be in the 170's or 180's
    right now??? As in months ago???

    Don't listen to these idiots who say you can only be on induction for two
    weeks, anyone who READS the book or the website can clearly see it says up
    to 6 months or LONGER provided your health is ok.

    If you want to take years to lose it, thats your stupidity!

    Calm down, cowboy. Staying with Induction until you reach your goal weight
    is NOT doing Atkins correctly. Why on earth would the good doctor have
    written all those other chapters if all we needed was Induction?

    Here's a quote from the DANDR book:
    "Although Induction offers plenty of advantages, there are lots of valid
    reasons for progressing"..."the chance to avoid becoming dependent on a
    'crash diet' mentality. When people learn that they can lose weight
    quickly, as they do during Induction, they sometimes take their ability to
    lose weight for granted. They don't think in terms of a lifetime commitment
    to the Atkins lifestyle - just a quick fix for overindulgence. The result
    of this faulty thinking is yo-yo dieting and metabolic resistance to weight
    loss. While the next phase - Ongoing Weight Loss or OWL - may likely slow
    your rate of weight loss, this is not a bad thing. The slower the progress,
    the more chance you have to permanently change bad habits over the long
    run."

    S t a c i

  10. You can stall on induction if you eat too much.

    You can stall when not on induction if you eat too much.

    Funny how that works.
    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Um, Sam, not everyone has to do it _your_ way, ok? Some people stall


    while

    Quoted message said:

    still on induction. Some people would rather lose a little bit slower but
    have more variety in their diet while doing it. Some people lose faster
    when they add more vegetables in, because they end up lowering calories
    overall. Not just carbs matter, calories count too. And anyway, it's not
    a race, ok? It's about finding a way you can eat and lose weight and
    _maintain_ it for life.

    I mean, sure, you CAN stay on induction for 6 months, sure, go ahead. If
    your priority is to lose as much weight as quickly as possible, and you
    don't care about things like learning how to change your eating into
    something healthy you can live with for the rest of your life, if you


    don't

    Quoted message said:

    care about the potential emotional issues of losing a large amount of
    weight quickly without having time to adjust to it, if you don't care


    about

    Quoted message said:

    the potential of having huge flaps of skin hanging off your body, and if
    your body is one of the ones that actually _will_ lose faster by staying


    on

    Quoted message said:

    induction. That may be you Sam, but it's not everyone.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sam Marks said:

    You need to hit induction and STAY ON IT until you reach where you want


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be. It's just that simple!

    I can't believe that you started Atkins over a year ago and only went


    down

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    60 pounds in a year??? Do you realize you could be in the 170's or


    180's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right now??? As in months ago???

    Don't listen to these idiots who say you can only be on induction for


    two

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    weeks, anyone who READS the book or the website can clearly see it says


    up

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to 6 months or LONGER provided your health is ok.

    If you want to take years to lose it, thats your stupidity!
    "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June.


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding


    steady

    Quoted message said:

    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my


    belt.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it


    didn't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low


    carbing,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  11. This Atkins 'trick' will break any stall. It works for anyone, even
    me.

    Atkins Fat Fast
    http://atkinscenter.com/Archive/2001/12/21-237659.html

    Bob La Londe said:

    Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June. I
    started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching my
    carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding steady
    at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my belt.
    Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it didn't
    hang over my belt.

    I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low carbing,
    but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.

  12. Duh. For some people it is _easier_ to not eat eat too much on OWL. If
    you eat fewer eggs and meat and more low-carb vegetables, while keeping
    volume the same, then calories would drop.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    You can stall on induction if you eat too much.

    You can stall when not on induction if you eat too much.

    Funny how that works.
    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Um, Sam, not everyone has to do it _your_ way, ok? Some people stall


    while

    Quoted message said:

    still on induction. Some people would rather lose a little bit slower but
    have more variety in their diet while doing it. Some people lose faster
    when they add more vegetables in, because they end up lowering calories
    overall. Not just carbs matter, calories count too. And anyway, it's not
    a race, ok? It's about finding a way you can eat and lose weight and
    _maintain_ it for life.

    I mean, sure, you CAN stay on induction for 6 months, sure, go ahead. If
    your priority is to lose as much weight as quickly as possible, and you
    don't care about things like learning how to change your eating into
    something healthy you can live with for the rest of your life, if you


    don't

    Quoted message said:

    care about the potential emotional issues of losing a large amount of
    weight quickly without having time to adjust to it, if you don't care


    about

    Quoted message said:

    the potential of having huge flaps of skin hanging off your body, and if
    your body is one of the ones that actually _will_ lose faster by staying


    on

    Quoted message said:

    induction. That may be you Sam, but it's not everyone.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sam Marks said:

    You need to hit induction and STAY ON IT until you reach where you want


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be. It's just that simple!

    I can't believe that you started Atkins over a year ago and only went


    down

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    60 pounds in a year??? Do you realize you could be in the 170's or


    180's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right now??? As in months ago???

    Don't listen to these idiots who say you can only be on induction for


    two

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    weeks, anyone who READS the book or the website can clearly see it says


    up

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to 6 months or LONGER provided your health is ok.

    If you want to take years to lose it, thats your stupidity!
    "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of June.


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been watching


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently holding
    steady
    > at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over my


    belt.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big fatso I
    > weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it


    didn't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > hang over my belt.
    >
    > I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low


    carbing,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  13. Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Um, Sam, not everyone has to do it _your_ way, ok? Some people stall while
    still on induction.

    I don't lose anything *at all* when I am doing Induction. For me, the
    loss is always in the next stage, and Induction is just a good way to
    get back into ketosis. It's also good when I start having bad blood
    sugar symptoms.

  14. Sam Marks wrote:
    | You need to hit induction and STAY ON IT until you reach where you
    | want to be. It's just that simple!
    |
    | I can't believe that you started Atkins over a year ago and only went
    | down 60 pounds in a year??? Do you realize you could be in the 170's
    | or 180's right now??? As in months ago???
    |
    | Don't listen to these idiots who say you can only be on induction for
    | two weeks, anyone who READS the book or the website can clearly see
    | it says up to 6 months or LONGER provided your health is ok.
    |
    | If you want to take years to lose it, thats your stupidity!
    | "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    || Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of
    || June. I started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have
    || been watching my carb and calorie count for several months and I am
    || currently holding steady at 240 for many months now. I still have a
    || huge gut hanging over my belt. Looking at old pictures the last time
    || I didn't look like a big fatso I weighed between 210 and 215. Even
    || then I had a small gut, but it didn't hang over my belt.
    ||
    || I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low
    || carbing, but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235
    || to 240.

    Out of curiosity Sam, long have you been on Atkins and how mucn weight have
    you lost? Where are your before and after pictures? What qualifies you to
    call time-tested, experienced low-carbers "idiots for presenting proven
    facts?"

    There is nothing worse than a half-truth, and that is what you present. It
    is true that Atkins says it's not dangerous to stay on induction, but he
    does not recommend it -- and for good reason. The two-week induction
    period is designed to break the carb addiction. Induction levels of carbs
    means a very high % of calories come from fat, and conversely eating more
    fat translates to more calories. This is why the Atkins plan calls for
    increasing carbs to the point where one stops losing; then backing off a bit
    for ongoing weight loss (CCL) -- continuing to perpetually pig out
    indiscriminately on cream, butter, bacon etc. will have one
    screaming,"Atkins doesn't work!" in no time. We've seen this time and again
    here.

    Increasing carb intake according to Atkin's Ongoing Weight Loss plan
    provides best of both worlds: carbs remain low enough to prevent a sharp
    insulin response (which more efficiently stores glucose as fat) while enougn
    fat is eaten to provide satiety -- and at the same time calories are reduced
    by the nature of the meat/ healthy vegetable combination. This balance
    maximizes weight loss, and is the reason that it is recommended.

    You are being very irresponsible in saying, "You need to hit induction and
    STAY ON IT until you reach where you
    | want to be. It's just that simple!" Quite simply, this is incorrect and
    you don't know what you are talking about.

    Your silly remarks punctuated with poor netiquette (caps) puts on in mind of
    the style of our old friend Preesi.

    --
    Peter
    270/215/180
    Before/Current Pix:
    http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

  15. Owls are low carb.

    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Duh. For some people it is _easier_ to not eat eat too much on OWL. If
    you eat fewer eggs and meat and more low-carb vegetables, while keeping
    volume the same, then calories would drop.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    You can stall on induction if you eat too much.

    You can stall when not on induction if you eat too much.

    Funny how that works.
    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Um, Sam, not everyone has to do it _your_ way, ok? Some people stall


    while

    Quoted message said:

    still on induction. Some people would rather lose a little bit slower


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have more variety in their diet while doing it. Some people lose


    faster

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    when they add more vegetables in, because they end up lowering


    calories

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    overall. Not just carbs matter, calories count too. And anyway, it's


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a race, ok? It's about finding a way you can eat and lose weight and
    _maintain_ it for life.

    I mean, sure, you CAN stay on induction for 6 months, sure, go ahead.


    If

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    your priority is to lose as much weight as quickly as possible, and


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    don't care about things like learning how to change your eating into
    something healthy you can live with for the rest of your life, if you


    don't

    Quoted message said:

    care about the potential emotional issues of losing a large amount of
    weight quickly without having time to adjust to it, if you don't care


    about

    Quoted message said:

    the potential of having huge flaps of skin hanging off your body, and


    if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    your body is one of the ones that actually _will_ lose faster by


    staying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on

    Quoted message said:

    induction. That may be you Sam, but it's not everyone.

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Sam Marks" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > You need to hit induction and STAY ON IT until you reach where you


    want

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    > be. It's just that simple!
    >
    > I can't believe that you started Atkins over a year ago and only


    went

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    down

    Quoted message said:

    > 60 pounds in a year??? Do you realize you could be in the 170's or


    180's

    Quoted message said:

    > right now??? As in months ago???
    >
    > Don't listen to these idiots who say you can only be on induction


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    two

    Quoted message said:

    > weeks, anyone who READS the book or the website can clearly see it


    says

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    up

    Quoted message said:

    > to 6 months or LONGER provided your health is ok.
    >
    > If you want to take years to lose it, thats your stupidity!
    > "Bob La Londe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > Ok... Last year (2003) I started low carbing around the end of


    June.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    > > started at about 295. I dropped as low as 235. I have been


    watching

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    my

    Quoted message said:

    > > carb and calorie count for several months and I am currently


    holding

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > steady
    > > at 240 for many months now. I still have a huge gut hanging over


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    belt.

    Quoted message said:

    > > Looking at old pictures the last time I didn't look like a big


    fatso I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > weighed between 210 and 215. Even then I had a small gut, but it


    didn't

    Quoted message said:

    > > hang over my belt.
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    > > I tried carbing out for a couple days and then going back to low


    carbing,

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    > > but all that did was move my maintained point up from 235 to 240.
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    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >


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    Duh. For some people it is _easier_ to not eat eat too much on
    OWL.

    JC said:

    Owls are low carb.

    I've heard tell the spotted ones taste like chicken.

    Carmen

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    Duh. For some people it is _easier_ to not eat eat too much on
    OWL.

    JC said:

    Owls are low carb.

    I've heard tell the spotted ones taste like chicken.

    They are kind of hard to find, but yeah.

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    > Duh. For some people it is _easier_ to not eat eat too much on
    > OWL.

    JC said:

    Owls are low carb.

    I've heard tell the spotted ones taste like chicken.

    They are kind of hard to find, but yeah.

    The taste a lot like eagle

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    > "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > Duh. For some people it is _easier_ to not eat eat too much on
    > > OWL.

    JC wrote:
    > Owls are low carb.

    I've heard tell the spotted ones taste like chicken.

    They are kind of hard to find, but yeah.

    The taste a lot like eagle

    Or California Condor. Yum yum.

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