Gaining

Some water weight came along with that daily intake of about 54g of carbs.
If you lower carbs for a day or two, exercise a lot, and keep calories
constant some (probably most) of that 9 lbs will fade away. It is hard to
gain 9 lbs of fat in less than a week....it can be done, but you've got to
work at it....

Luna wrote:
|| Well, I knew it was bound to happen. I thought I was prepared to
|| gain a few pounds back from quitting smoking, even if I didn't eat
|| any more than I was before. But this is ridiculous. Seems smoking a
|| pack a day is the equivalent of burning 200 extra calories a day,
|| from what I've read, and since I was smoking 3 packs a day I would
|| need to eat 600 calories less a day just to maintain. And instead,
|| during these last 2 weeks, I have been eating more. Not sure how
|| much more, I haven't been tracking, but apparently a _lot_ more,
|| since I have gained 9 pounds since Thursday. Yup, 9 pounds in 4
|| days. What sucks about this is that, ok, yeah, I have been eating
|| more, the scale says I have been eating a ton, but I don't _feel_
|| like I've been eating a ton. I just did a Fitday report for what I
|| ate yesterday, which was a pretty typical day for how I've been
|| eating since I quit smoking, and I ate 2085 calories, and 54g of
|| carbs. Yikes!!! How can I eat so [censored] much? And the sad thing
|| is, I am still not eating as much as I want to, by far. I am hungry
|| all the time, and sleepy and sluggish most of the time, yet I force
|| myself to exercise and I force myself to stop eating when I'm still
|| hungry, and I am nevertheless gaining at a rate that will put me
|| back at 200 pounds in less than a month. Well, now I know how it
|| happens that people regain weight. You get in a situation where you
|| are constantly, gnawingly, painfully hungry, and you try to force
|| yourself to live with that feeling, and you're just too weak. Now
|| I'm sorry that I ever posted about pass sucesses here, because other
|| people kept saying how I "inspired" them and [censored], which I was never
|| comfortable with in the first place, and now I feel like I'm letting
|| people down. Anyway.
||
|| --
|| Michelle Levin
|| http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
||
|| I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
|| flaws.

Luna said:

Well, I knew it was bound to happen. I thought I was prepared to gain a
few pounds back from quitting smoking, even if I didn't eat any more than I
was before. But this is ridiculous. Seems smoking a pack a day is the
equivalent of burning 200 extra calories a day, from what I've read, and
since I was smoking 3 packs a day I would need to eat 600 calories less a
day just to maintain. And instead, during these last 2 weeks, I have been
eating more. Not sure how much more, I haven't been tracking, but
apparently a _lot_ more, since I have gained 9 pounds since Thursday. Yup,
9 pounds in 4 days. What sucks about this is that, ok, yeah, I have been
eating more, the scale says I have been eating a ton, but I don't _feel_
like I've been eating a ton. I just did a Fitday report for what I ate
yesterday, which was a pretty typical day for how I've been eating since I
quit smoking, and I ate 2085 calories, and 54g of carbs. Yikes!!! How can
I eat so [censored] much? And the sad thing is, I am still not eating as much
as I want to, by far. I am hungry all the time, and sleepy and sluggish
most of the time, yet I force myself to exercise and I force myself to stop
eating when I'm still hungry, and I am nevertheless gaining at a rate that
will put me back at 200 pounds in less than a month. Well, now I know how
it happens that people regain weight. You get in a situation where you are
constantly, gnawingly, painfully hungry, and you try to force yourself to
live with that feeling, and you're just too weak. Now I'm sorry that I
ever posted about pass sucesses here, because other people kept saying how
I "inspired" them and [censored], which I was never comfortable with in the first
place, and now I feel like I'm letting people down. Anyway.

drama queen much?

dude, you had a HUGE nasty cigarette habit. get over that first and
*then* get yourself back on track with the food thing.

look at the big picture and stop focusing on stupid things like how many
calories a day you burned smoking THREE [censored] PACKS OF CIGARETTES.
are those burnt calories going to comfort you when you get lung cancer?

i know it's hard but you need to butch up and just deal with it. any
weight you gain while quitting can be lost once your head stops spinning
from the withdrawal process.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(The Queen of Cans and Jars) said:

drama queen much?

dude, you had a HUGE nasty cigarette habit. get over that first and
*then* get yourself back on track with the food thing.

look at the big picture and stop focusing on stupid things like how many
calories a day you burned smoking THREE [censored] PACKS OF CIGARETTES.
are those burnt calories going to comfort you when you get lung cancer?

i know it's hard but you need to butch up and just deal with it. any
weight you gain while quitting can be lost once your head stops spinning
from the withdrawal process.

Thank you so much for this. My head is so messed up right now. I knew
quitting would be hard physically, but I had no idea what I was getting
into emotionally and mentally. I don't even feel like me any more. One
minute I feel so [censored] unbelievably happy that I quit, that I can
breathe, that I can run without choking, and I just want to open my arms
and hug the whole world, and then the next minute I want to crawl into a
hole and never come out. What you just said there makes me feel a lot
better, helps put things in perspective, and gives me a great deal of hope.
You rock, thank you so so so so much.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Luna said:

Now I'm sorry that I
ever posted about pass sucesses here, because other people kept saying how
I "inspired" them and [censored], which I was never comfortable with in the first
place, and now I feel like I'm letting people down. Anyway.

Kiddo, you're still a hero. You lost a bunch of weight, and now
you've quit a three packs of cigarettes a day habit. I've watched
other people quit (never started, myself), and that alone is a very
tough row to hoe. I wish you could see yourself through other eyes,
rather than your own. You are awesome.

Best of luck,

Karen Rodgers

**********
Windbourne, folk singers of the future
http://www.windbourne.com/
remove "_rice_" from my email address
**********

Start training for a marathon.

It'll take your mind off smoking.

--
Dost thou come here to whine? -- Shakespeare

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Well, I knew it was bound to happen. I thought I was prepared to gain a
few pounds back from quitting smoking, even if I didn't eat any more than

I

Quoted message said:

was before. But this is ridiculous. Seems smoking a pack a day is the
equivalent of burning 200 extra calories a day, from what I've read, and
since I was smoking 3 packs a day I would need to eat 600 calories less a
day just to maintain. And instead, during these last 2 weeks, I have been
eating more. Not sure how much more, I haven't been tracking, but
apparently a _lot_ more, since I have gained 9 pounds since Thursday.

Yup,

Quoted message said:

9 pounds in 4 days. What sucks about this is that, ok, yeah, I have been
eating more, the scale says I have been eating a ton, but I don't _feel_
like I've been eating a ton. I just did a Fitday report for what I ate
yesterday, which was a pretty typical day for how I've been eating since I
quit smoking, and I ate 2085 calories, and 54g of carbs. Yikes!!! How

can

Quoted message said:

I eat so [censored] much? And the sad thing is, I am still not eating as much
as I want to, by far. I am hungry all the time, and sleepy and sluggish
most of the time, yet I force myself to exercise and I force myself to

stop

Quoted message said:

eating when I'm still hungry, and I am nevertheless gaining at a rate that
will put me back at 200 pounds in less than a month. Well, now I know how
it happens that people regain weight. You get in a situation where you are
constantly, gnawingly, painfully hungry, and you try to force yourself to
live with that feeling, and you're just too weak. Now I'm sorry that I
ever posted about pass sucesses here, because other people kept saying how
I "inspired" them and [censored], which I was never comfortable with in the

first

Quoted message said:

place, and now I feel like I'm letting people down. Anyway.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Luna said:

Well, I knew it was bound to happen. I thought I was prepared to
gain a few pounds back from quitting smoking, even if I didn't eat
any more than I was before. But this is ridiculous. Seems
smoking a pack a day is the equivalent of burning 200 extra
calories a day, from what I've read, and since I was smoking 3
packs a day I would need to eat 600 calories less a day just to
maintain. And instead, during these last 2 weeks, I have been eating
more. Not sure how much more, I haven't been tracking, but apparently
a _lot_ more, since I have gained 9 pounds since Thursday. Yup, 9
pounds in 4 days. What sucks about this is that, ok, yeah, I have
been eating more, the scale says I have been eating a ton, but I
don't _feel_ like I've been eating a ton. I just did a Fitday
report for what I ate yesterday, which was a pretty typical day
for how I've been eating since I quit smoking, and I ate 2085
calories, and 54g of carbs. Yikes!!! How can I eat so [censored]
much? And the sad thing is, I am still not eating as much as I
want to, by far. I am hungry all the time, and sleepy and sluggish

most of the time, yet I force myself to exercise and I force myself to stop

Quoted message said:

eating when I'm still hungry, and I am nevertheless gaining at a rate

that

Quoted message said:

will put me back at 200 pounds in less than a month. Well, now I

know how

Quoted message said:

it happens that people regain weight. You get in a situation where

you are

Quoted message said:

constantly, gnawingly, painfully hungry, and you try to force

yourself to

Quoted message said:

live with that feeling, and you're just too weak. Now I'm sorry that I
ever posted about pass sucesses here, because other people kept

saying how

Quoted message said:

I "inspired" them and [censored], which I was never comfortable with in the

first

Quoted message said:

place, and now I feel like I'm letting people down. Anyway.

Be careful of your thinking. As far as I can see, the only purpose of
an addiction is to kill you.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

most of the time, yet I force myself to exercise and I force

myself to stop eating when I'm still hungry, and I am nevertheless
gaining at a rate that will put me back at 200 pounds in less
than a month. Well, now I know how it happens that people regain
weight. You get in a situation where you are constantly,
gnawingly, painfully hungry, and you try to force yourself to live
with that feeling, and you're just too weak. Now I'm sorry that I

ever posted about pass sucesses here, because other people kept saying how

Quoted message said:

I "inspired" them and [censored], which I was never comfortable with in the

first

Quoted message said:

place, and now I feel like I'm letting people down. Anyway.

Be careful of your thinking. As far as I can see, the only purpose of
an addiction is to kill you.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ever posted about pass sucesses here, because other people kept

saying how I "inspired" them and [censored], which I was never
comfortable with in the first place, and now I feel like I'm
letting people down. Anyway.

An average weight gain when someone quits smoking is 15 pounds, and
that's when the person isn't doing anything to prevent it. You aren't
going to keep gaining "at this rate."

Be careful of your thinking (you can change your thoughts). As far as I
can see, the only purpose of an addiction is to kill you. If you can
get yourself upset enough about the weight gain, you may cave and smoke
again and the addiction wins.

Many people have said that we can't just give up an addiction, we have
to replace one. Gary Zukav says that when we give up an addiction, we
find out what we came here to do. What ever, addictions are powerful,
especially the last one to go. My opinion is that the last one to go
has the most bang for the buck in terms of the energy freed up that can
be used toward what it is that we really want.

Barb

JC Der Koenig wrote:
|| Start training for a marathon.
||
|| It'll take your mind off smoking.
||

I agree. However, I don't think she will.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig wrote:
|| Start training for a marathon.
||
|| It'll take your mind off smoking.
||

I agree. However, I don't think she will.

I rather doubt it also.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig wrote:
|| Start training for a marathon.
||
|| It'll take your mind off smoking.
||

I agree. However, I don't think she will.

I rather doubt it also.

Ditto. ;o)

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Hi,

Luna said:

Well, I knew it was bound to happen. I thought I was prepared to
gain a few pounds back from quitting smoking, even if I didn't eat
any more
than I was before. But this is ridiculous. Seems smoking a pack a
day is
the equivalent of burning 200 extra calories a day, from what I've
read,
and since I was smoking 3 packs a day I would need to eat 600
calories
less a day just to maintain.

Snip

Cancer sucks ass. Emphysema sucks ass. 3 packs of cigarettes a day
is flat-out *daring* something like that to strike you. Don't allow
your subconscious
to use gaining weight as an excuse to start smoking again. It'll try
it if you aren't careful.
Once you get done feeling sorry for yourself and mourning for your
cigarette buddies
you'll have more mental resources to "butch up" with. Been there,
done that, been quit for 18 years.

Hang in there,
Carmen

Quoted message said:

Now I'm sorry that I
ever posted about pass sucesses here, because other people kept saying how
I "inspired" them and [censored], which I was never comfortable with in the first
place, and now I feel like I'm letting people down. Anyway.

--

Why not let yourself feel good, for being a inspiration? You are.

Sweetie, don't be too hard on yourself. You are giving it your best shot. Don't
concern yourself with letting others down.

By the way, you have inspired me to quit smoking also. I set a date for a week
after school starts. To start on a weekend. Its better that way, less stress.
Trying to deal with the withdrawls.

Quoted message said:

Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Luna,

My dad died last week of lung cancer--it is awful watching someone slowly die
of this. He got down to 100lbs. He smoked 2-3 packs a day, and that is A LOT.
His apartment was disgusting---walls were yellow, sticky..etc. Just think about
what those cig's do to your lungs and other things. 3 packs a day is
awful---how did you afford that?

Good luck---don't go back to that nasty habit.
jraney

Quoted message said:

Thank you so much for this. My head is so messed up right now. I knew
quitting would be hard physically, but I had no idea what I was getting
into emotionally and mentally. I don't even feel like me any more. One
minute I feel so [censored] unbelievably happy that I quit, that I can
breathe, that I can run without choking, and I just want to open my arms
and hug the whole world, and then the next minute I want to crawl into a
hole and never come out. What you just said there makes me feel a lot
better, helps put things in perspective, and gives me a great deal of hope.
You rock, thank you so so so so much.

--

You didn't need that Luna. I am sorry you got treated like this.

I think its normal reactions that you are having. Nicotene is very addictive.

Quoted message said:

Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Sunshyne) said:

Quoted message said:

Thank you so much for this. My head is so messed up right now. I knew
quitting would be hard physically, but I had no idea what I was getting
into emotionally and mentally. I don't even feel like me any more. One
minute I feel so [censored] unbelievably happy that I quit, that I can
breathe, that I can run without choking, and I just want to open my arms
and hug the whole world, and then the next minute I want to crawl into a
hole and never come out. What you just said there makes me feel a lot
better, helps put things in perspective, and gives me a great deal of hope.
You rock, thank you so so so so much.

--

You didn't need that Luna. I am sorry you got treated like this.

I think its normal reactions that you are having. Nicotene is very addictive.

No, I did need that. What Queen said made a lot of sense and was helpful.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Zoul said:

Some water weight came along with that daily intake of about 54g of carbs.
If you lower carbs for a day or two, exercise a lot, and keep calories
constant some (probably most) of that 9 lbs will fade away. It is hard to
gain 9 lbs of fat in less than a week....it can be done, but you've got to
work at it....

Yeah, like an extra 30,000+ calories, which would take eating about
5,000 calories a day.

Chuck Demas

--
Eat Healthy | _ _ | Nothing would be done at all,
Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well,
Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it.
[email hidden] | \___/ | http://world.std.com/~cpd

Sometimes instead of getting what we want, we get what we need. What is great
is that you seen it was something you needed.

I read the first reaction you had to her, and seen that it hurt you at first.
That is why I responded the way I did.

I like Queens to the point, blunt style myself. People like that force me to
look at the reality. Yes it does hurt. But it helps to make changes, better
choices.
🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You didn't need that Luna. I am sorry you got treated like this.

I think its normal reactions that you are having. Nicotene is very

addictive.

Quoted message said:

No, I did need that. What Queen said made a lot of sense and was helpful.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lunachick-

Quoted message said:

Yup, 9 pounds in 4 days.
I am nevertheless gaining at a rate that will put me back at 200 pounds in

less than a month.

You must realize that this rate of gain will not continue to be constant (IF
it continues, it will be at a much slower rate), just as initial large
weight loss does not stay constant through dieting.

I do not believe that you will become the fat girl you used to be.
Especially not so soon. Not only your body has changed, but YOU have
changed. Your mindset is different. Your level of knowledge is different.
Your body may have shrunk, but your brain grew. 🙂
You're struggling right now, but this too will pass. You have made a
decision to improve your health. You, your metabolism, and even your
emotions will adjust to life without smoking. And you will come out
stronger than ever before.

Maybe it would help to go to induction level for a week to eliminate the
cravings and hunger? You could then work your way back up, as it is quite
possible that your CCLL has changed. It's much easier to stick with Atkins
when you are not constantly bombarded with cravings and gnawing hunger...
that's something I love about this WOE.

Keep it up!

--
Spring (One of Luna's raving fans)
LC since 1/1/04
260/208/170
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sprgsnow/album?.tok=phX4sVBBuvxvs4Hs&.dir=/55b8&.src=ph
Size: 24W / 14 / 10

you are doing 2 of some of the hardest things you can do. and that of course
is losing weight and quitting smoking.
I just want to say congrats to your success on both. I can only imagine what
you are going through. Best of luck.
hugs,
Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com

"Sprgtime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lunachick-

Quoted message said:

Yup, 9 pounds in 4 days.
I am nevertheless gaining at a rate that will put me back at 200 pounds

in

Quoted message said:

less than a month.

You must realize that this rate of gain will not continue to be constant

(IF

Quoted message said:

it continues, it will be at a much slower rate), just as initial large
weight loss does not stay constant through dieting.

I do not believe that you will become the fat girl you used to be.
Especially not so soon. Not only your body has changed, but YOU have
changed. Your mindset is different. Your level of knowledge is

different.

Quoted message said:

Your body may have shrunk, but your brain grew. 🙂
You're struggling right now, but this too will pass. You have made a
decision to improve your health. You, your metabolism, and even your
emotions will adjust to life without smoking. And you will come out
stronger than ever before.

Maybe it would help to go to induction level for a week to eliminate the
cravings and hunger? You could then work your way back up, as it is quite
possible that your CCLL has changed. It's much easier to stick with

Atkins

Quoted message said:

when you are not constantly bombarded with cravings and gnawing hunger...
that's something I love about this WOE.

Keep it up!

--
Spring (One of Luna's raving fans)
LC since 1/1/04
260/208/170

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sprgsnow/album?.tok=phX4sVBBuvxvs4Hs&.dir=/55b8&.src=ph

Quoted message said:

Size: 24W / 14 / 10

Luna said:

Well, I knew it was bound to happen. I thought I was prepared to gain a
few pounds back from quitting smoking, even if I didn't eat any more than I
was before. But this is ridiculous.

You could butch up and white knuckle your way through as you shift
your focus elsewhere. Or look into getting some L-glutamine POWDER to
feed yer brain and low dose L-tyrosine caps to help with the missing
catecholamine boost you used to suck from the cancer sticks. Check
out a copy of "The Diet Cure" from the library for an idea on how to
use the amino acids. My guess is that a combo of L-glutamine and
L-tyrosine would make the transition to smoke free less onerous. YMMV
I'm not a doctor, not a health care professional blah blah blah just
my personal opinion blah blah blah 🙂

Why powder? Because it takes about ( 9 ) L-glutamine capsules to
equal one teaspoon of powder. I have a teaspoon of L-glutamine in a
glass of water to wash down some of my morning supplements.
Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com