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Vitus Carbon frames -- flexy?

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  1. I'm being offered a Vitus Carbon/Kevlar bike. All tubes are carbon/kevlar, rear triangle too. Other
    than that, I don't know much about the bike, except the main tubes look fatter than those old 979s'.
    It's very light and seems a good deal. However, I'm concerned it might be a bit flexy. It's hilly
    around here, and while light bikes may be nice for climbing, flexy ones are scary on steep, twisty
    descents. I'll take safe/easy descending any day. Has anyone ridden one of these? Feedback? This is
    large, 60-62cm frame. I'm 6', ~175#.

    Matt O.

  2. I ride a 992 in Aluminum. The tubes are also slightly oversized. The bike is quite stiff, although
    not punishingly so. I weigh around 180. My frame of reference (sorry) includes a steel and a carbon
    road bike. If what they say about diameter being more important to stiffness than material, my
    experience may be applicable. I really like the ride of the Vitus.

    Rob

    Matt O'Toole said:

    I'm being offered a Vitus Carbon/Kevlar bike. All tubes are carbon/kevlar, rear triangle too.
    Other than that, I don't know much about the bike, except the main tubes look fatter than those
    old 979s'. It's very light and seems a good deal. However, I'm concerned it might be a bit flexy.
    It's hilly around here, and while light bikes may be nice for climbing, flexy ones are scary on
    steep, twisty descents. I'll take safe/easy descending any day. Has anyone ridden one of these?
    Feedback? This is large, 60-62cm frame. I'm 6', ~175#.

    Matt O.

  3. In article said:

    I'm being offered a Vitus Carbon/Kevlar bike. All tubes are carbon/kevlar, rear triangle too. Other
    than that, I don't know much about the bike, except the main tubes look fatter than those old
    979s'. It's very light and seems a good deal. However, I'm concerned it might be a bit flexy. It's
    hilly around here, and while light bikes may be nice for climbing, flexy ones are scary on steep,
    twisty descents. I'll take safe/easy descending any day. Has anyone ridden one of these? Feedback?
    This is large, 60-62cm frame. I'm 6', ~175#.

    I am your size. I have not ridden that bike. I have ridden Alan/Guerciotti bikes in that sort of
    size and same design. Extreme noodle. Not unridable, but kind of a joke bike when built that large.
    I lived in constant fear of breaking the fork.

    The other thing to consider is the actual weight of the bike. The problem with those big noodly
    glued frames with their heavy lugs is that they usually just aren't that light. Let the scale do the
    talking if weight is the thing. The modern aluminum TIG-welded disposable road bike is quite a bit
    lighter than many of the lugged aluminum ones were.

    I still like seeing Sean Kelly ride Paris Roubaix on a Vitus though.

    --Paul

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Southworth

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    I'm being offered a Vitus Carbon/Kevlar bike. All tubes are carbon/kevlar, rear triangle too.
    Other than that, I don't know much about the bike, except the main tubes look fatter than those
    old 979s'. It's very light and seems a good deal. However, I'm concerned it might be a bit flexy.
    It's hilly around here, and while light bikes may be nice for climbing, flexy ones are scary on
    steep, twisty descents. I'll take safe/easy descending any day. Has anyone ridden one of these?
    Feedback? This is large, 60-62cm frame. I'm 6', ~175#.

    I am your size. I have not ridden that bike. I have ridden Alan/Guerciotti bikes in that sort of
    size and same design.

    The OP says that the tubes are larger than the 979. Plus the 979 Carbon had no kevlar and an
    aluminum rear triangle. So this frame is very probably not comparable to the old Alan frames.

    Quoted message said:

    Extreme noodle. Not unridable, but kind of a joke bike when built that large. I lived in constant
    fear of breaking the fork.

    I put something like 30k hard miles on a 59cm aluminum 979 with no problems. I love hills and am a
    reasonably fast descender. Actually I was faster down hills when I rode the Vitus but it wasn't the
    bike... The fork isn't any less stiff than an Ouzo Pro. Descending on the 979 took some getting used
    to but much of that was the very quick steering from the steep head tube angle.

    But I don't think this frame is one of the old whippy Vituses (Vitii?) so the point is moot.

    Quoted message said:

    I still like seeing Sean Kelly ride Paris Roubaix on a Vitus though.

    On my planet Kelly hasn't ridden Paris Roubaix or a Vitus for many years. Is your planet's Greg
    Lemond still thin?

    Eric

  5. Matt O'Toole said:

    I'm being offered a Vitus Carbon/Kevlar bike. All tubes are carbon/kevlar, rear triangle too. Other
    than that, I don't know much about the bike, except the main tubes look fatter than those old
    979s'. It's very light and seems a good deal. However, I'm concerned it might be a bit flexy. It's
    hilly around here, and while light bikes may be nice for climbing, flexy ones are scary on steep,
    twisty descents. I'll take safe/easy descending any day. Has anyone ridden one of these? Feedback?
    This is large, 60-62cm frame. I'm 6', ~175#.

    Matt O.

    I had a Vitus 'Carbone 9' some years ago. Seat tube seperated from the BB lug after about 2 years.
    Sent it to HH Racing for repair. Seat tube seperated again about a year later. Now it's hanging in
    my garage as a keepsake....

  6. [email hidden] (Eric Murray) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Southworth

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    I'm being offered a Vitus Carbon/Kevlar bike. All tubes are carbon/kevlar, rear triangle too

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The OP says that the tubes are larger than the 979. Plus the 979 Carbon had no kevlar and an
    aluminum rear triangle. So this frame is very probably not comparable to the old Alan frames.

    There were several versions of the Vitus aluminum lugged/carbon tubed frames. "Carbone 3" frames
    were 3 main tubes of carbon fiber with an aluminum rear triangle. "Carbone 9" frames had all of the
    above with the rear triangle built from carbon fiber. "Carbon Kevlar" frames are recognizable by the
    appearance of gold-colored Kevlar fibers along the tubes- I *think* they were available in "3" and
    "9" versions also... but my memory's fading.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Extreme noodle. Not unridable, but kind of a joke bike when built that large. I lived in constant
    fear of breaking the fork.


    The fork for all the carbon models was the standard Vitus aluminum fork.

    Unfortunately, I never rode one- I'm 6-foot-4, 210 pounds, and long of torso. I was happy enough
    with my cheap steel bikes.

    Jeff

  7. Eric Murray said:
    Quoted message said:

    I still like seeing Sean Kelly ride Paris Roubaix on a Vitus though.

    On my planet Kelly hasn't ridden Paris Roubaix or a Vitus for many years. Is your planet's Greg
    Lemond still thin?

    So your planet doesn't have photographs or film?

  8. In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Southworth
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    The OP says that the tubes are larger than the 979. Plus the 979 Carbon had no kevlar and an
    aluminum rear triangle. So this frame is very probably not comparable to the old Alan frames.

    I'm sure that will be a big relief to him.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I still like seeing Sean Kelly ride Paris Roubaix on a Vitus though.

    On my planet Kelly hasn't ridden Paris Roubaix or a Vitus for many years.

    On my planet you can watch it over and over again through the magic of video tape.

    Quoted message said:

    Is your planet's Greg Lemond still thin?

    He looks fantastic and wins the Tour more than once a year. :-) How does he do it?

    --Paul

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