howgills

Andrew Titley said:

A word of warning - (several words actually)

Big rugby do at Sedbergh school this weekend (9/10.10), pubs booked up for
private dos, 15 teams playing, etc. - so don't expect to be able to park or
anything else in the village (unless you want to watch the rugby!)

Hi there,

thanks for the warning.

I've been thinking recently of doing some walking/camping in the
Howgills. I've driven through that area several times in the last year
or so, and it's just beautiful. Can you suggest any good
routes/websites/books/other sources of info?

Many thanks!

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

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I've been thinking recently of doing some walking/camping in the
Howgills. I've driven through that area several times in the last year
or so, and it's just beautiful. Can you suggest any good
routes/websites/books/other sources of info?

Books? A couple from a bookshelf near me...

Escape to the Dales (Bob Allen - ISBN 0-7181-3499-0)

Walking the Dales (Mike Harding - ISBN 0-7181-3254-8)

(... which contains the classic statement "giving me plenty of
opportunity to remember the old equation H20 + ROk = SOS"😉

I'd expect any quarter-respectable library should at least have the
Harding book, which is a good read for the prose alone. Both books give
a reasonable 'flavour' of the walking. Then just DIY with the aid of the
OS map.

Don't know a campsite & only done one walk up there, but it was a goody.
anti clockwise from Sedbergh round the base of the hills to Cautley Spout,
up the waterfall (very up), back over the tops from the Calf, via Winder, &
drop back into the village.
Superb views, interesting ridges and lumps (technical term).
The ridge north from Calf towards Newbiggin looks a likely candidate for
next time, when i've earned enough brownie points to be let out!

cheers
Andrew
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Andrew Titley said:

A word of warning - (several words actually)

Big rugby do at Sedbergh school this weekend (9/10.10), pubs booked up

for

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private dos, 15 teams playing, etc. - so don't expect to be able to park

or

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anything else in the village (unless you want to watch the rugby!)

Hi there,

thanks for the warning.

I've been thinking recently of doing some walking/camping in the
Howgills. I've driven through that area several times in the last year
or so, and it's just beautiful. Can you suggest any good
routes/websites/books/other sources of info?

Many thanks!

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

Peewiglet wrote

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I've been thinking recently of doing some walking/camping in the
Howgills. I've driven through that area several times in the last year
or so, and it's just beautiful. Can you suggest any good
routes/websites/books/other sources of info?

Sedburgh is the obvious starting point and offers the most direct
routes to popular peaks like Winder, Arrant Haw, Calders and
The Calf itself but there are other access points. Tebay offers a
longer walk in to the tops but a better route, I think, is a little off
to the East via Cautley Spout. The best bits are in the YDNP so
camping isn't actually allowed ... if you get caught :-) Otherwise
lovely walking. It has always been quiet when we've been there.

Chris

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:42:57 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

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routes/websites

Try the Langdale circuit from Gaisgill on the Tebay to Ravenstonedale
road. It's wonderfully quiet most of the way.

http://www.lakedistrictwalks.com/lancal.html

HTH

John D.
--
at home in Kendal, Cumbria
Lake District Walks at: http://www.lakedistrictwalks.com/
Kilimanjaro trip at: http://www.lakedistrictwalks.com/kilimanjaro/

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:37:10 +0100, "Bootlaces" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've been thinking recently of doing some walking/camping in the
Howgills. I've driven through that area several times in the last year
or so, and it's just beautiful. Can you suggest any good
routes/websites/books/other sources of info?

Books? A couple from a bookshelf near me...

Escape to the Dales (Bob Allen - ISBN 0-7181-3499-0)

Excellent! I have a couple of great Bob Allen books 🙂

Quoted message said:

Walking the Dales (Mike Harding - ISBN 0-7181-3254-8)

(... which contains the classic statement "giving me plenty of
opportunity to remember the old equation H20 + ROk = SOS"😉

:-) It sounds like fun - I'll see if I can dig it out.

Quoted message said:

I'd expect any quarter-respectable library should at least have the
Harding book, which is a good read for the prose alone. Both books give
a reasonable 'flavour' of the walking. Then just DIY with the aid of the
OS map.

Many thanks 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

Chris Gilbert said:

Sedburgh is the obvious starting point and offers the most direct
routes to popular peaks like Winder, Arrant Haw, Calders and
The Calf itself but there are other access points. Tebay offers a
longer walk in to the tops but a better route, I think, is a little off
to the East via Cautley Spout. The best bits are in the YDNP so
camping isn't actually allowed ... if you get caught :-) Otherwise
lovely walking. It has always been quiet when we've been there.

Thanks v. much - that's v. helpful 🙂 Time for a new map, I think.

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

John Dawson said:

Try the Langdale circuit from Gaisgill on the Tebay to Ravenstonedale
road. It's wonderfully quiet most of the way.

http://www.lakedistrictwalks.com/lancal.html

HTH

It certainly does! Many thanks 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

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Andrew Titley said:

A word of warning - (several words actually)

Big rugby do at Sedbergh school this weekend (9/10.10), pubs booked up for
private dos, 15 teams playing, etc. - so don't expect to be able to park or
anything else in the village (unless you want to watch the rugby!)

Hi there,

thanks for the warning.

I've been thinking recently of doing some walking/camping in the
Howgills. I've driven through that area several times in the last year
or so, and it's just beautiful. Can you suggest any good
routes/websites/books/other sources of info?

Many thanks!

Best wishes,

Reasonable campsites just outside Sedbergh on A684, at Cross Hall on
A683 between Sedbergh and Cross Keys, Cautley; and at Bowber Head. There
are others marked on the map but never been to any of them.

My introduction to the Howgills, many years ago now, was the gift of
"Walks on the Howgill Fells and adjoining fells" by A Wainwright. Don't
know if it is one of the ones recently republished. My copy has been
well used.

Recommend approaches from the east (Cautley) and the north.
--
Dennis Foster

Peewiglet wrote

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Time for a new map, I think.

Harvey's do a good one. There's a tourist information office
in Sedburgh.You can buy one there.I still use the pair of
Pathfinder maps, 607 and 617, that cover the entire hills.

Chris

Dennis Foster said:

Reasonable campsites just outside Sedbergh on A684, at Cross Hall on
A683 between Sedbergh and Cross Keys, Cautley; and at Bowber Head. There
are others marked on the map but never been to any of them.

My introduction to the Howgills, many years ago now, was the gift of
"Walks on the Howgill Fells and adjoining fells" by A Wainwright. Don't
know if it is one of the ones recently republished. My copy has been
well used.

Recommend approaches from the east (Cautley) and the north.

Many thanks for the excellent info! I'll see if I can dig out the book
🙂

Thanks again!

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

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On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:37:10 +0100, "Bootlaces" <[email hidden]>

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I've been thinking recently of doing some walking/camping in the
Howgills. I've driven through that area several times in the last year
or so, and it's just beautiful. Can you suggest any good
routes/websites/books/other sources of info?

Spent one or two happy days wandering the fells and dales around Sedbergh
and Dent.

Check out
http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/sites/results.asp?page=10&county=Cumbria . We
stayed at the Pinfold Caravan Park site a good few years ago and found it ok
plus it's in easy walking distance of Sedbergh which is good for
drinking/eating.

You could also consider Dent as an alternative base, it's an attractive
tinny village with three pubs (doing meals) a café and a church and has two
campsites practically in the village, we have stayed at High Laning Caravan
& Camping Park (just below the Sedbergh sites on the same web page) again
some years ago but as I recollect we found it was ok too, I think the second
camp site at the far end of the village (Grid Ref SD707 867) is a basic one
though.

Enjoy,

MP

Hi,
Cracking walk is, Cautley (park past temperance pub)-Cautley
spout-Calders-The Calf-Docker Knott-Simons Seat-Hazelgill
knott-Randygill-Kensgriff-Yarlside-Cautley spout- Cautley temperance
pub (forgot the name) for ginger Beer and a plate of ham and eggs.

Warning this walk is not like other areas, it is very quiet apart from
a few fell ponies once you leave Docker knott you might not see any
one until you get back to the spout, also do not underestimate the
difficulty as there is a lot of Very steep grassy ascent and even
tougher Descent, also navigation is very difficult due to a lack of
features, having said that this is one of my favourite walks.
Steve Crossley

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Hi,
Cracking walk is, Cautley (park past temperance pub)-Cautley
spout-Calders-The Calf-Docker Knott-Simons Seat-Hazelgill
knott-Randygill-Kensgriff-Yarlside-Cautley spout- Cautley temperance
pub (forgot the name) for ginger Beer and a plate of ham and eggs.

Warning this walk is not like other areas, it is very quiet apart from
a few fell ponies once you leave Docker knott you might not see any
one until you get back to the spout, also do not underestimate the
difficulty as there is a lot of Very steep grassy ascent and even
tougher Descent, also navigation is very difficult due to a lack of
features, having said that this is one of my favourite walks.
Steve Crossley

Not too steep going up if you rest every three yards or so. ;-)

I would prefer to descend by another route, as we did, rather than back
down there! It must be hell on your knees.
--
Gordon

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Cracking walk is, Cautley (park past temperance pub)-Cautley
spout-Calders-The Calf-Docker Knott-Simons Seat-Hazelgill
knott-Randygill-Kensgriff-Yarlside-Cautley spout- Cautley temperance
pub (forgot the name) for ginger Beer and a plate of ham and eggs.

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Not too steep going up if you rest every three yards or so. ;-)

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I would prefer to descend by another route, as we did, rather than back
down there! It must be hell on your knees.

I did a much shorter version of this walk last year - Spout, Calders,
Calf, Yarlside, and came down the east ridge of Yarlside (over Ben End)
but even that was steep.

In the afternoon I did Swarth Fell, Wild Boar Fell and Tarn Rigg Hill
(lest anyone think I was slacking).

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 64 summits
New - 42 (Marilyns 12, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 30)
Repeats - 22( Marilyns 7, Sweats 16, Wainwrights 16)

Apologies!

I was given duff info....

The rugby tournament is next weekend, not last!
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Cracking walk is, Cautley (park past temperance pub)-Cautley
spout-Calders-The Calf-Docker Knott-Simons Seat-Hazelgill
knott-Randygill-Kensgriff-Yarlside-Cautley spout- Cautley temperance
pub (forgot the name) for ginger Beer and a plate of ham and eggs.

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Not too steep going up if you rest every three yards or so. ;-)

Quoted message said:

I would prefer to descend by another route, as we did, rather than back
down there! It must be hell on your knees.

I did a much shorter version of this walk last year - Spout, Calders,
Calf, Yarlside, and came down the east ridge of Yarlside (over Ben End)
but even that was steep.

In the afternoon I did Swarth Fell, Wild Boar Fell and Tarn Rigg Hill
(lest anyone think I was slacking).

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 64 summits
New - 42 (Marilyns 12, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 30)
Repeats - 22( Marilyns 7, Sweats 16, Wainwrights 16)

Andrew Titley said:

Apologies!

I was given duff info....

The rugby tournament is next weekend, not last!

Oh no!!! And I'd arranged to go up next weekend instead, on the
strength of your warning!!!

Heh, heh.... just teasing :-)))

Good luck in the rugby, if you have sons playing!

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

Peewiglet <[email hidden]> wrote

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Andrew Titley said:

Apologies!

I was given duff info....

The rugby tournament is next weekend, not last!

Oh no!!! And I'd arranged to go up next weekend instead, on the
strength of your warning!!!

If you do visit the Howgills, it is worth stopping to look at them from
a distance, as they are very attractive seen from afar.
IRRC, there is a good viewpoint on the A684 from Hawes, although most
people will approach from the M6 and the West.
--
Gordon