What Size would people recommend for you average day walk with waterproofs something warm and something to eat and drink. Is 25L too small?
That depends how much you want to eat and drink and how big "something warm" and your waterproofs are. Easy way is to do it empirically: take the stuff you want to carry as a worst case to a shop and see if it'll fit in various sacks. That way you get to try out the individual packs for comfort on your back as well as checking if the capacity is enough.
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I'd think 25l would be plenty. I use a 28l and it's fine for me. If it's not enough then you're probably carrying too much. You might need a larger one if you're designated the family load carrier or are leading a group.
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:57:10 -0000, "JRS" <[email hidden]>
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What Size would people recommend for you average day walk with waterproofs something warm and something to eat and drink. Is 25L too small?
25 litres sounds fine. I use my 25 litre sack for daywalking, especially in not-cold weather and on easy routes.
I use my 35 litre pack for winter walking when I might want to take an EXTRA extra jumper, a flask of tea/soup (as well as water) and for tougher routes where I might expect to scrape the pack against rocks etc.
My 35 litre pack was the first rucksack I bought and is a tough old Karrimor Trail 35. I bought the 25 l because I realised 35l was too big for my average day walks. I bought it from Blacks (own brand) and it's fine.
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What Size would people recommend for you average day walk with waterproofs something warm and something to eat and drink. Is 25L too small?
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25l sounds just about right. I used to use a sack about that size and it did the job fine (waterproofs, fleece, lunch, drink, firstaid kit...). I now use a 35l sack that also has room for my big camera and other bits of unnecesary kit. Get anything much larger than 25l and you`ll be looking around for extra stuff to fill it with.
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25l sounds just about right. I used to use a sack about that size and it did the job fine (waterproofs, fleece, lunch, drink, firstaid kit...). I now use a 35l sack that also has room for my big camera and other bits of unnecesary kit. Get anything much larger than 25l and you`ll be looking around for extra stuff to fill it with.
strangley I have never found that a problem! All that extra stuff seems to pile itself up beside the pack and fight to get in. Especially the cameras, lenses, tripod, filters, ....
I was wondering why my day sack is 45l :-) Actually, I use it because the harness and hip belt are superb and I try only to half fill it and use the compression straps.
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25l sounds just about right. I used to use a sack about that size and it did the job fine (waterproofs, fleece, lunch, drink, firstaid kit...). I now use a 35l sack that also has room for my big camera and other bits of unnecesary kit. Get anything much larger than 25l and you`ll be looking around for extra stuff to fill it with.
strangley I have never found that a problem! All that extra stuff seems to pile itself up beside the pack and fight to get in. Especially the cameras, lenses, tripod, filters, ....
You're not PS in disguise are you? -- Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
Also, if you were shooting digital you would have no need to carry the
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Alas, not entirely true. Polarising filters, for example, are just as useful to the digital photographer and the results of their (proper!) use can't be reproduced by a computer.
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Also, if you were shooting digital you would have no need to carry the
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Alas, not entirely true. Polarising filters, for example, are just as useful to the digital photographer and the results of their (proper!) use can't be reproduced by a computer.
You know, even in your quoted version of my post I can see the smiley. Did you miss it, or do you really believe that you are alone in the knowledge that there are filters not described by Wratten numbers?
To labour the point, it was part of the PS joke because one of the things he expounded on was how he needed fewer filters because of the amount of post-processing he could do with RAW files.
Sigh. I think must be a sign from above that I should follow PS's noble example. -- Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen
You know, even in your quoted version of my post I can see the smiley.
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are filters not described by Wratten numbers?
Sorry mate, I thought the smiley was for the advatages of going digital. There are a load of misconceptions about digital photography so I didn't think you're post was to unbelievable!
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To labour the point, it was part of the PS joke because one of the things
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expounded on was how he needed fewer filters because of the amount of post-processing he could do with RAW files.
Ah, I must have escaped that thread.
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Sigh. I think must be a sign from above that I should follow PS's noble example.
based on what was said and looking at some other 25L daysacks it does seem plenty big enough. I went for a Lowe alpine 25 at CCC for £22.50. seems like a good deal.
Jon
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:57:10 -0000, "JRS" <[email hidden]>
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What Size would people recommend for you average day walk with
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something warm and something to eat and drink. Is 25L too small?
If you haven't made your mind up by now you could do worse than have a rummage through the current edition of TGO, there's a good review of day sacs (I won't say who its by to save his blushes ;-)
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>strangley I have never found that a problem! All that extra stuff seems
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>pile itself up beside the pack and fight to get in. Especially the >cameras, lenses, tripod, filters, ....
You're not PS in disguise are you?
No, I'm not quite that obsessed!
Also, if you were shooting digital you would have no need to carry the filters :-)
Still like to carry my ND grads and polariser. Some things photoshop can't do, especially recover blown highlights from the sky. (not that it was a problem in Snowdonia this weekend - very 'characterful' skies)
Just go worry you even more, I've got pretty much the same photo gear as TDO :-) (300D etc.)
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In message <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook <[email hidden]> wrote: > On 12 Aug 2004 22:11:05 GMT, Darren G wrote: [...] > >strangley I have never found that a problem! All that extra stuff seems to > >pile itself up beside the pack and fight to get in. Especially the > >cameras, lenses, tripod, filters, .... > > You're not PS in disguise are you?
No, I'm not quite that obsessed!
Also, if you were shooting digital you would have no need to carry the filters :-)
Still like to carry my ND grads and polariser. Some things photoshop can't do, especially recover blown highlights from the sky. (not that it was a problem in Snowdonia this weekend - very 'characterful' skies)
Just go worry you even more, I've got pretty much the same photo gear as TDO :-) (300D etc.)
Grrr. Just realised I missed your TDO-based irony here (and the smiley too)
