Thank you Dan, your estimate is close to what I'd expect too (happy to hear other views though). I'll be doing Catalina with a slight jetlag on a vacation with my family, so I won't push it that hard anyway - need to have fresh legs for Universal Studios or whatever.
Next question: if I'm looking at 4.30-5 hrs, I suppose it'd be best to plan to use walking breaks from the start?
Go native: hook up with some others in your fitness range, and do as they do...there may well be some walking up the steepest stuff. Make sure you can enjoy the last long dirt downhill into Avalon.
It's a very friendly laid-back crowd, it feels more like an ultramarathon than a marathon.
If you stay overnight, you might enjoy renting a cab for an hour or two drive with your family around the island's interior, or take a tour bus. It is a unique place.
-- Dan
"Stefan Sjostrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Thank you Dan, your estimate is close to what I'd expect too (happy to hear other views though). I'll be doing Catalina with a slight jetlag on a vacation with my family, so I won't push it that hard anyway - need to have fresh legs for Universal Studios or whatever.
Next question: if I'm looking at 4.30-5 hrs, I suppose it'd be best to plan to use walking breaks from the start?
The Galloway walking system is based on taking your walking breaks every mile (or every ten or twelve minutes, what ever you decide on) from the beginning. While I am not a proponent of the G-system, it did pull my bacon out of the fire when I "had" to run a marathon on practically no training. As long as you keep going forward it will have little net effect on your time. Apparently it works by allowing your leg muscles to recover and replenish during the walk portion. I found walking through the aid stations, which were every two miles worked for me. YMMV
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Next question: if I'm looking at 4.30-5 hrs, I suppose it'd be best to plan to use walking breaks from the start?
you can run at 70% of your maxHR, that should see you through and your legs shouldn't be trashed out at the end plodzilla
Stefan Sjostrom said:
Thank you Dan, your estimate is close to what I'd expect too (happy to hear other views though). I'll be doing Catalina with a slight jetlag on a vacation with my family, so I won't push it that hard anyway - need to have fresh legs for Universal Studios or whatever.
Next question: if I'm looking at 4.30-5 hrs, I suppose it'd be best to plan to use walking breaks from the start?
Is it true that Galloway advocates walking breaks every mile of the marathon? What's next, lawn chair breaks served with lemonade and
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rubs.
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Get with the program folks, the marathon is run, not walked. Did Phidipides (sp?) stroll to Athens with news of victory in the battlefield?
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If you cannot run the full distance, step aside and allow others who put in the extra training and preparation to complete the task properly, in the true spirit of the event.
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Steve LaDumbee Langley, Canada (home of the morons)
Sorry there stupidass, but his comments are aimed tords beginners, those just trying to finish the course.
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Thank you Dan, your estimate is close to what I'd expect too (happy to hear other views though). I'll be doing Catalina with a slight jetlag on a vacation with my family, so I won't push it that hard anyway - need to have fresh legs for Universal Studios or whatever.
Next question: if I'm looking at 4.30-5 hrs, I suppose it'd be best to plan to use walking breaks from the start?
/Stefan
I don't really know the course, but doing something like walking up hills will save energy and not really hurt your overall time.
Next question: if I'm looking at 4.30-5 hrs, I suppose it'd be best to plan to use walking breaks from the start?
A "general" guideline (probably exceptions) that I've read is that if you wait until you have to walk before you start walking, then you waited too long. Many people walk / power hike the hills early, then if things are going well, they increase the amount of running in the 2nd half. That is, save the energy until you're sure you have enough to make it. On hilly courses, let the hills, not fixed time or distance intervals, suggest when your walk breaks should be.
Enjoy! I've heard a lot of good comments about this race.
Dot
-- "Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
I don't really know the course, but doing something like walking up hills will save energy and not really hurt your overall time.
I did a half-ironman last summer and walked up the hills. I stayed exactly even with the people who were running up them. Granted, I was near the back of the pack; I don't think you'll win the race doing this.
--Harold Buck
"I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. . . ." -Homer J. Simpson
Stefan Sjostrom wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
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Thank you Dan, your estimate is close to what I'd expect too (happy to hear other views though). I'll be doing Catalina with a slight jetlag on a vacation with my family, so I won't push it that hard anyway - need to have fresh legs for Universal Studios or whatever.
Next question: if I'm looking at 4.30-5 hrs, I suppose it'd be best to plan to use walking breaks from the start?
/Stefan
Walking breaks are great in training or in long races, and as someone suggested you can use the aid station as a walking break. I use them on steeper hills in all my running, or if I feel wasted on some days I'll just walk a few mins then continue running. Basically I go by heart rate when walking hills - if it goes too high I walk until it drops to slightly under the normal range, then start running again.
Planned walk breaks are also great for covering longer distances than you're used to. I like to break up 10 min segments into 8/2 or 7/3 when doing long runs early in the season after a lengthy period of very little running. You can set up timers on your watch to tell you when to walk (which I don't recommend) or you can use the mile markers - just walk a few mins after every mile marker then run to the next one. You might find yourself keeping up with others who run the whole way.
"Danglynnn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Is it true that Galloway advocates walking breaks every mile of the marathon? What's next, lawn chair breaks served with lemonade and
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rubs.
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Get with the program folks, the marathon is run, not walked. Did Phidipides (sp?) stroll to Athens with news of victory in the battlefield?
1) He did not run 26.2 miles (it was shorter according to some sources) albeit over tough terrain. 2) No one knows for sure. It is not like there is videotape.
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If you cannot run the full distance, step aside and allow others who put in the extra training and preparation to complete the task properly, in the true spirit of the event.
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Steve LaDumbee Langley, Canada (home of the morons)
Sorry there stupidass, but his comments are aimed tords beginners, those just trying to finish the course.
Stefan Sjostrom wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
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Thank you Dan, your estimate is close to what I'd expect too (happy to hear other views though). I'll be doing Catalina with a slight jetlag on a vacation with my family, so I won't push it that hard anyway - need to have fresh legs for Universal Studios or whatever.
Next question: if I'm looking at 4.30-5 hrs, I suppose it'd be best to plan to use walking breaks from the start?
/Stefan
Walking breaks are great in training or in long races, and as someone suggested you can use the aid station as a walking break. I use them on steeper hills in all my running, or if I feel wasted on some days I'll just walk a few mins then continue running. Basically I go by heart rate when walking hills - if it goes too high I walk until it drops to slightly under the normal range, then start running again.
Planned walk breaks are also great for covering longer distances than you're used to. I like to break up 10 min segments into 8/2 or 7/3 when doing long runs early in the season after a lengthy period of very little running. You can set up timers on your watch to tell you when to walk (which I don't recommend) or you can use the mile markers - just walk a few mins after every mile marker then run to the next one. You might find yourself keeping up with others who run the whole way.