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  1. For anyone racing Treasure Island next month, I just checked the web site
    and saw the course has been shortened to a 6 lap course, with most straight
    stretches less than a half mile. Any criterion experienced racers here that
    can provide some training or racing tips to prepare for this type of short
    course?

    -AJ

    http://www.tricalifornia.com/treasureisland/2004/images/TI-Olympic-participant04-we.gif

  2. A. J. said:

    For anyone racing Treasure Island next month, I just checked the web site
    and saw the course has been shortened to a 6 lap course, with most straight
    stretches less than a half mile. Any criterion experienced racers here that
    can provide some training or racing tips to prepare for this type of short
    course?

    -AJ

    http://www.tricalifornia.com/treasureisland/2004/images/TI-Olympic-participant
    04-we.gif

    criterion     
    n. pl. cri·te·ri·a (-tîr-) or cri·te·ri·ons
    A standard, rule, or test on which a judgment or decision can be based. See
    Synonyms at standard.

    Criterium
    A criterium race consists of many laps around a short course. The course may
    be a few city blocks. Criteriums are good for spectators, less popular with
    racers.

    A criterium bicycle will often have a somewhat higher bottom bracket than a
    road-racing bicycle, to allow pedalling through the turns (there are a lot
    of turns in a criterium!) Criterium bicycles are designed with a particular
    eye to manoeuvrability, because the peloton in a criterium is likely to be
    large and dense. Criterium bicycles are not usually built for comfort.

    Common mix-up.

    HTH,
    Steve = : ^ )

  3. Spell checker strikes again, thank for the pompous reply and quote from
    Websters.

    "Steve B." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    A. J. said:

    For anyone racing Treasure Island next month, I just checked the web


    site

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and saw the course has been shortened to a 6 lap course, with most


    straight

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stretches less than a half mile. Any criterion experienced racers here


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can provide some training or racing tips to prepare for this type of


    short

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    course?

    -AJ


    http://www.tricalifornia.com/treasureisland/2004/images/TI-Olympic-participant

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    04-we.gif

    criterion
    n. pl. cri·te·ri·a (-tîr-) or cri·te·ri·ons
    A standard, rule, or test on which a judgment or decision can be based.


    See

    Quoted message said:

    Synonyms at standard.

    Criterium
    A criterium race consists of many laps around a short course. The course


    may

    Quoted message said:

    be a few city blocks. Criteriums are good for spectators, less popular


    with

    Quoted message said:

    racers.

    A criterium bicycle will often have a somewhat higher bottom bracket than


    a

    Quoted message said:

    road-racing bicycle, to allow pedalling through the turns (there are a lot
    of turns in a criterium!) Criterium bicycles are designed with a


    particular

    Quoted message said:

    eye to manoeuvrability, because the peloton in a criterium is likely to be
    large and dense. Criterium bicycles are not usually built for comfort.

    Common mix-up.

    HTH,
    Steve = : ^ )

  4. I can do pompous but that wasn't it. If it was me, (and it used to be until
    I saw it printed somewhere) I'd want to know, and I foolishly assumed you'd
    want the same.

    My bad,
    Steve = : ^ \

    A. J. said:

    Spell checker strikes again, thank for the pompous reply and quote from
    Websters.

    "Steve B." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    A. J. said:

    For anyone racing Treasure Island next month, I just checked the web


    site

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and saw the course has been shortened to a 6 lap course, with most


    straight

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stretches less than a half mile. Any criterion experienced racers here


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can provide some training or racing tips to prepare for this type of


    short

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    course?

    -AJ


    http://www.tricalifornia.com/treasureisland/2004/images/TI-Olympic-participant

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    04-we.gif

    criterion
    n. pl. cri·te·ri·a (-tîr-) or cri·te·ri·ons
    A standard, rule, or test on which a judgment or decision can be based.


    See

    Quoted message said:

    Synonyms at standard.

    Criterium
    A criterium race consists of many laps around a short course. The course


    may

    Quoted message said:

    be a few city blocks. Criteriums are good for spectators, less popular


    with

    Quoted message said:

    racers.

    A criterium bicycle will often have a somewhat higher bottom bracket than


    a

    Quoted message said:

    road-racing bicycle, to allow pedalling through the turns (there are a lot
    of turns in a criterium!) Criterium bicycles are designed with a


    particular

    Quoted message said:

    eye to manoeuvrability, because the peloton in a criterium is likely to be
    large and dense. Criterium bicycles are not usually built for comfort.

    Common mix-up.

    HTH,
    Steve = : ^ )

  5. I do appreciate the correct spelling, just wasn't happy with the
    presentation.
    As I do not have the resources for a dedicated criterium bike for this
    race, do you have any other tips on technique or training drills that would
    be useful? I assume that good bike handling through the turns and
    acceleration on the short straights is key, much more than flat out speed.
    This should also be interesting avoiding a penalty with the no drafting
    rule. 1200 racers, with at least half on the 4 mile course together.

    Any one with similar race experience? Getting nervous as this is only my
    3rd triathlon and the first two were smaller local events. I'm sure I'll
    loose a minute or two just looking for my bike.

    A.J.

    "Steve B." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I can do pompous but that wasn't it. If it was me, (and it used to be


    until

    Quoted message said:

    I saw it printed somewhere) I'd want to know, and I foolishly assumed


    you'd

    Quoted message said:

    want the same.

    My bad,
    Steve = : ^ \

    A. J. said:

    Spell checker strikes again, thank for the pompous reply and quote from
    Websters.

    "Steve B." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A. J. said:

    > For anyone racing Treasure Island next month, I just checked the web


    site

    Quoted message said:

    > and saw the course has been shortened to a 6 lap course, with most


    straight

    Quoted message said:

    > stretches less than a half mile. Any criterion experienced racers


    here

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that

    Quoted message said:

    > can provide some training or racing tips to prepare for this type of


    short

    Quoted message said:

    > course?
    >
    > -AJ
    >
    >



    http://www.tricalifornia.com/treasureisland/2004/images/TI-Olympic-participant

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > 04-we.gif

    criterion
    n. pl. cri·te·ri·a (-tîr-) or cri·te·ri·ons
    A standard, rule, or test on which a judgment or decision can be based.


    See

    Quoted message said:

    Synonyms at standard.

    Criterium
    A criterium race consists of many laps around a short course. The


    course

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    may

    Quoted message said:

    be a few city blocks. Criteriums are good for spectators, less popular


    with

    Quoted message said:

    racers.

    A criterium bicycle will often have a somewhat higher bottom bracket


    than

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    road-racing bicycle, to allow pedalling through the turns (there are a


    lot

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of turns in a criterium!) Criterium bicycles are designed with a


    particular

    Quoted message said:

    eye to manoeuvrability, because the peloton in a criterium is likely to


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    large and dense. Criterium bicycles are not usually built for comfort.

    Common mix-up.

    HTH,
    Steve = : ^ )


  6. A. J. said:

    I do appreciate the correct spelling, just wasn't happy with the
    presentation.
    As I do not have the resources for a dedicated criterium bike for this
    race, do you have any other tips on technique or training drills that would
    be useful? I assume that good bike handling through the turns and
    acceleration on the short straights is key, much more than flat out speed.
    This should also be interesting avoiding a penalty with the no drafting
    rule. 1200 racers, with at least half on the 4 mile course together.

    Any one with similar race experience? Getting nervous as this is only my
    3rd triathlon and the first two were smaller local events. I'm sure I'll
    loose a minute or two just looking for my bike.

    I've seen a few people gaffer tape a flag on a stick to the bike rack to
    mark their bike but, other than that, just spend a few minutes practicing
    getting to your bike from the swim exit and from the bike entry.

    I have no experience in bike races with tight turns but you're probably on
    the money when you say training drills. Just find somewhere to practise some
    tight laps with short straights.

    HTH,
    Steve = : ^ )

  7. A. J.' ajinsig99@hotmail_ns.com said:

    For anyone racing Treasure Island next month, I just checked the web site
    and saw the course has been shortened to a 6 lap course, with most straight
    stretches less than a half mile. Any criterion experienced racers here that
    can provide some training or racing tips to prepare for this type of short
    course?

    -AJ

    Well, it's not really going to be like a crit because you won't have
    the whole pack starting together. Unless it's draft legal, there
    shouldn't be a pack cornering together. That's the good news.

    The bad news is that unlike a crit, where most of the riders know what
    they're doing, you'll be racing with folks who may have never cornered
    at speed with anyone around them. Worse, the wave starts insure that
    you'll be passing slower and inexperienced riders constantly.

    Frankly, that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Forget crit
    techniques. Just try to stay out of trouble. Don't depend on anyone
    doing the expected.

    Watch particularly for newbies going deep into a corner from the
    inside then coming all the way outside because of momentum.

    Be patient, and don't try to pass in the corners.

    Mike Tennent
    "IronPenguin"

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