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  1. Should be a fun weekend. I just got my cue sheets for the 2005 Shenandoah
    Valley Century, and nothing at -all- to do this weekend. It suddenly
    occurred to me 'training ride on the SVC route'! Never too early to do a
    training ride on the course. After all, would the maillot jaune leave any
    detail unchecked; any hill unpunished? (Yes my friends, the hills no longer
    punish us, for we are getting Hill Legs. Hopefully after this ride we will
    have another kind of legs. ;-D )

    Actually, it will be more like 'drive over mountains to unknown small
    college town, and get lost and be taken in by generous co-eds.'

    Oh, what was I saying. Century. This is supposed to be moderately up and
    down, but no mountains. Thus the 'Valley' part. Any century with 'gentle,
    valley, or flat' in it and I'm there. If you look at the profile, below,
    you might wonder just what kind of valley this is...!

    We'll probably drive parts of the route, but, after all, who really wants
    to drive the entire 100 miles, even in a car..?

    So I have the elevation map, the cue sheet and the right shoes and matching
    helmet.

    http://www.people.virginia.edu/~slj/svc.htm

    -B
    It's all about the accessories.

  2. What's the total amount of elevation gain?

    Why not just ride the entire thing, Badge? If you get someone to drive the
    car along or just plan to wait on you at certain points along the way, I bet
    you could complete it.

    Who wants to drive any of the 100 miles when you can bike it 🙂

    Go for it, man!

    Badger_South wrote:
    :: Should be a fun weekend. I just got my cue sheets for the 2005
    :: Shenandoah Valley Century, and nothing at -all- to do this weekend.
    :: It suddenly occurred to me 'training ride on the SVC route'! Never
    :: too early to do a training ride on the course. After all, would the
    :: maillot jaune leave any detail unchecked; any hill unpunished? (Yes
    :: my friends, the hills no longer punish us, for we are getting Hill
    :: Legs. Hopefully after this ride we will have another kind of legs.
    :: ;-D )
    ::
    :: Actually, it will be more like 'drive over mountains to unknown small
    :: college town, and get lost and be taken in by generous co-eds.'
    ::
    :: Oh, what was I saying. Century. This is supposed to be moderately up
    :: and down, but no mountains. Thus the 'Valley' part. Any century with
    :: 'gentle, valley, or flat' in it and I'm there. If you look at the
    :: profile, below, you might wonder just what kind of valley this is...!
    ::
    :: We'll probably drive parts of the route, but, after all, who really
    :: wants to drive the entire 100 miles, even in a car..?
    ::
    :: So I have the elevation map, the cue sheet and the right shoes and
    :: matching helmet.
    ::
    :: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~slj/svc.htm
    ::
    :: -B
    :: It's all about the accessories.

  3. What's the total amount of elevation gain?

    Why not just ride the entire thing, Badge? If you get someone to drive the
    car along or just plan to wait on you at certain points along the way, I bet
    you could complete it.

    Who wants to drive any of the 100 miles when you can bike it 🙂

    Go for it, man!

    Badger_South wrote:
    :: Should be a fun weekend. I just got my cue sheets for the 2005
    :: Shenandoah Valley Century, and nothing at -all- to do this weekend.
    :: It suddenly occurred to me 'training ride on the SVC route'! Never
    :: too early to do a training ride on the course. After all, would the
    :: maillot jaune leave any detail unchecked; any hill unpunished? (Yes
    :: my friends, the hills no longer punish us, for we are getting Hill
    :: Legs. Hopefully after this ride we will have another kind of legs.
    :: ;-D )
    ::
    :: Actually, it will be more like 'drive over mountains to unknown small
    :: college town, and get lost and be taken in by generous co-eds.'
    ::
    :: Oh, what was I saying. Century. This is supposed to be moderately up
    :: and down, but no mountains. Thus the 'Valley' part. Any century with
    :: 'gentle, valley, or flat' in it and I'm there. If you look at the
    :: profile, below, you might wonder just what kind of valley this is...!
    ::
    :: We'll probably drive parts of the route, but, after all, who really
    :: wants to drive the entire 100 miles, even in a car..?
    ::
    :: So I have the elevation map, the cue sheet and the right shoes and
    :: matching helmet.
    ::
    :: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~slj/svc.htm
    ::
    :: -B
    :: It's all about the accessories.

  4. What's the total amount of elevation gain?

    Why not just ride the entire thing, Badge? If you get someone to drive the
    car along or just plan to wait on you at certain points along the way, I bet
    you could complete it.

    Who wants to drive any of the 100 miles when you can bike it 🙂

    Go for it, man!

    Badger_South wrote:
    :: Should be a fun weekend. I just got my cue sheets for the 2005
    :: Shenandoah Valley Century, and nothing at -all- to do this weekend.
    :: It suddenly occurred to me 'training ride on the SVC route'! Never
    :: too early to do a training ride on the course. After all, would the
    :: maillot jaune leave any detail unchecked; any hill unpunished? (Yes
    :: my friends, the hills no longer punish us, for we are getting Hill
    :: Legs. Hopefully after this ride we will have another kind of legs.
    :: ;-D )
    ::
    :: Actually, it will be more like 'drive over mountains to unknown small
    :: college town, and get lost and be taken in by generous co-eds.'
    ::
    :: Oh, what was I saying. Century. This is supposed to be moderately up
    :: and down, but no mountains. Thus the 'Valley' part. Any century with
    :: 'gentle, valley, or flat' in it and I'm there. If you look at the
    :: profile, below, you might wonder just what kind of valley this is...!
    ::
    :: We'll probably drive parts of the route, but, after all, who really
    :: wants to drive the entire 100 miles, even in a car..?
    ::
    :: So I have the elevation map, the cue sheet and the right shoes and
    :: matching helmet.
    ::
    :: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~slj/svc.htm
    ::
    :: -B
    :: It's all about the accessories.

  5. Badger_South said:

    -B
    It's all about the accessories.

    Uh oh. Quick, get the crash cart. Badge is turning into
    Fabrizio.

    CLEAR!

    -km

    --
    Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester

    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
    proud to be owned by a yorkie

  6. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:37:15 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    What's the total amount of elevation gain?

    Why not just ride the entire thing, Badge? If you get someone to drive the
    car along or just plan to wait on you at certain points along the way, I bet
    you could complete it.

    Who wants to drive any of the 100 miles when you can bike it 🙂

    Go for it, man!

    What about 'unknown college town...getting lost...and, uh, being taken in
    by generous co-eds' did you fail to follow, big guy? lol.

    Actually I was planning on this as an 'orienteering' expedition, since the
    route is unlikely to still be marked, and there won't be any other bikers
    to follow. I'm unexperienced in following cue sheets while riding - it's
    not like in rally road driving where you have a navigator and driver,
    heh-heh. Sure if you're riding with the group, you get lost now and then
    and stop and check the map...but no reason to -plan- on getting lost.

    But on your advice, it might be that I could explore that option...say
    scope out the cue sheets and get a rough idea on where I'm going - it's a
    complex course - and maybe ride the 50 mile loop, which is part of the
    Century.

    The thing is I don't want to actually ride the course before the group
    ride, b/c you want some of the 'suffering-breakthrough' to occur to you.
    IOW, you take on something that's over your head and then get there, but
    not without some training and preparation.

    It's possible that we could turn this into a two-day event. IOW, scope out
    parts of it, then stay in a cheap motel and spend the night plotting and
    orienteering, then ride the 50 mile route the next day.

    What I lack in skill, and guts, I try to make up by planning, hehe. I did
    that extensively when I ran the 10K and 10 miler races, though some of them
    were tough enough, but well supported like Lynchburg that I wanted the
    'full experience', so didn't recon. it. Most of my 10K races I ran at least
    once before the race, but those were races, man, not group rides like this.

    -B

    Quoted message said:

    Badger_South wrote:
    :: Should be a fun weekend. I just got my cue sheets for the 2005
    :: Shenandoah Valley Century, and nothing at -all- to do this weekend.
    :: It suddenly occurred to me 'training ride on the SVC route'! Never
    :: too early to do a training ride on the course. After all, would the
    :: maillot jaune leave any detail unchecked; any hill unpunished? (Yes
    :: my friends, the hills no longer punish us, for we are getting Hill
    :: Legs. Hopefully after this ride we will have another kind of legs.
    :: ;-D )
    ::
    :: Actually, it will be more like 'drive over mountains to unknown small
    :: college town, and get lost and be taken in by generous co-eds.'
    ::
    :: Oh, what was I saying. Century. This is supposed to be moderately up
    :: and down, but no mountains. Thus the 'Valley' part. Any century with
    :: 'gentle, valley, or flat' in it and I'm there. If you look at the
    :: profile, below, you might wonder just what kind of valley this is...!
    ::
    :: We'll probably drive parts of the route, but, after all, who really
    :: wants to drive the entire 100 miles, even in a car..?
    ::
    :: So I have the elevation map, the cue sheet and the right shoes and
    :: matching helmet.
    ::
    :: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~slj/svc.htm
    ::
    :: -B
    :: It's all about the accessories.

  7. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:37:15 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    What's the total amount of elevation gain?

    Why not just ride the entire thing, Badge? If you get someone to drive
    the
    car along or just plan to wait on you at certain points along the way, I
    bet
    you could complete it.

    Who wants to drive any of the 100 miles when you can bike it 🙂

    I am a bit confused. Are you discussing pre-riding the course for a century
    that is going to happen next year?

  8. the black rose said:
    Badger_South said:

    -B
    It's all about the accessories.

    Uh oh. Quick, get the crash cart. Badge is turning into
    Fabrizio.

    CLEAR!

    -km

    You are ...going...to...GET IT...<stomping foot>

    -B

  9. Badger_South wrote:
    :: On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:37:15 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: What's the total amount of elevation gain?
    :::
    ::: Why not just ride the entire thing, Badge? If you get someone to
    ::: drive the car along or just plan to wait on you at certain points
    ::: along the way, I bet you could complete it.
    :::
    ::: Who wants to drive any of the 100 miles when you can bike it 🙂
    :::
    ::: Go for it, man!
    ::
    :: What about 'unknown college town...getting lost...and, uh, being
    :: taken in by generous co-eds' did you fail to follow, big guy? lol.

    That's why I'm pushing you, dude! 🙂

    ::
    :: Actually I was planning on this as an 'orienteering' expedition,
    :: since the route is unlikely to still be marked, and there won't be
    :: any other bikers to follow. I'm unexperienced in following cue
    :: sheets while riding - it's not like in rally road driving where you
    :: have a navigator and driver, heh-heh. Sure if you're riding with the
    :: group, you get lost now and then and stop and check the map...but no
    :: reason to -plan- on getting lost.

    If this is a yearly ride, the route will be marked on the roads. You just
    follow them. I never look at cue sheets while I riding, though I do take
    one with me just in case.

    ::
    :: But on your advice, it might be that I could explore that
    :: option...say scope out the cue sheets and get a rough idea on where
    :: I'm going - it's a complex course - and maybe ride the 50 mile loop,
    :: which is part of the Century.

    Microsoft Streets and Trips, 2005 version. You can lay the entire route out
    ahead of time and print expanded maps with extra details. So if you should
    get held prisoner by generous co-eds we'll know where NOT to come looking.

    ::
    :: The thing is I don't want to actually ride the course before the
    :: group ride, b/c you want some of the 'suffering-breakthrough' to
    :: occur to you. IOW, you take on something that's over your head and
    :: then get there, but not without some training and preparation.

    Well, I'm not convinced it makes a whole lot of different if you ride in a
    group or not as terms of the accomplishment. Certainly, it is way more fun
    to ride in a group.

    ::
    :: It's possible that we could turn this into a two-day event. IOW,
    :: scope out parts of it, then stay in a cheap motel and spend the
    :: night plotting and orienteering, then ride the 50 mile route the
    :: next day.

    That works!

    ::
    :: What I lack in skill, and guts, I try to make up by planning, hehe.
    :: I did that extensively when I ran the 10K and 10 miler races, though
    :: some of them were tough enough, but well supported like Lynchburg
    :: that I wanted the 'full experience', so didn't recon. it. Most of my
    :: 10K races I ran at least once before the race, but those were races,
    :: man, not group rides like this.

    I ain't know racer. I watch them on TV.

    When is this again?

    You and your brother should come to Charleston SC on December 4 for the
    Festavelo de Charleston. There is a metric and a real century on that day.
    As it is flat (I hope), it should be an easy 100 miles. If I blow this one,
    I'm giving up bicycling.

    ::
    :: -B
    ::
    :::
    :::
    ::: Badger_South wrote:
    ::::: Should be a fun weekend. I just got my cue sheets for the 2005
    ::::: Shenandoah Valley Century, and nothing at -all- to do this
    ::::: weekend. It suddenly occurred to me 'training ride on the SVC
    ::::: route'! Never too early to do a training ride on the course.
    ::::: After all, would the maillot jaune leave any detail unchecked;
    ::::: any hill unpunished? (Yes my friends, the hills no longer punish
    ::::: us, for we are getting Hill Legs. Hopefully after this ride we
    ::::: will have another kind of legs. ;-D )
    :::::
    ::::: Actually, it will be more like 'drive over mountains to unknown
    ::::: small college town, and get lost and be taken in by generous
    ::::: co-eds.'
    :::::
    ::::: Oh, what was I saying. Century. This is supposed to be moderately
    ::::: up and down, but no mountains. Thus the 'Valley' part. Any
    ::::: century with 'gentle, valley, or flat' in it and I'm there. If
    ::::: you look at the profile, below, you might wonder just what kind
    ::::: of valley this is...!
    :::::
    ::::: We'll probably drive parts of the route, but, after all, who
    ::::: really wants to drive the entire 100 miles, even in a car..?
    :::::
    ::::: So I have the elevation map, the cue sheet and the right shoes and
    ::::: matching helmet.
    :::::
    ::::: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~slj/svc.htm
    :::::
    ::::: -B
    ::::: It's all about the accessories.

  10. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:26 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When is this again?

    You and your brother should come to Charleston SC on December 4 for the
    Festavelo de Charleston. There is a metric and a real century on that day.
    As it is flat (I hope), it should be an easy 100 miles. If I blow this one,
    I'm giving up bicycling.

    You offering a crash pad, bro? lol.

    I don't know about him, certainly for next year. Me, jeeze, I'm not sure,
    perhaps if it were in the spring. It's just that 12/4 is too close to prep
    for.

    Definitely next year...this year I'd have to let you know how my training
    is going near the middle of November...but I may have an event planned for
    the last week in Nov. which might conflict.

    Tempting, though. Jeeze, we're talking 3 weeks of prep and planning? Not
    too likely for procrastination man, haha.

    -B
    You got any cue sheets, map, anything? webpage?

  11. Badger_South wrote:
    || On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:26 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    || <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ||
    ||| When is this again?
    |||
    ||| You and your brother should come to Charleston SC on December 4 for
    ||| the Festavelo de Charleston. There is a metric and a real century
    ||| on that day. As it is flat (I hope), it should be an easy 100
    ||| miles. If I blow this one, I'm giving up bicycling.
    ||
    || You offering a crash pad, bro? lol.

    I don't live in Charleston. I'll be driving down myself. But I'll offer you
    a riding buddy! I'm always up for spying the babes.

    ||
    || I don't know about him, certainly for next year. Me, jeeze, I'm not
    || sure, perhaps if it were in the spring. It's just that 12/4 is too
    || close to prep for.

    Yeah, it would be tight....but it is a *flat* ride.

    ||
    || Definitely next year...this year I'd have to let you know how my
    || training
    || is going near the middle of November...but I may have an event
    || planned for the last week in Nov. which might conflict.
    ||
    || Tempting, though. Jeeze, we're talking 3 weeks of prep and planning?
    || Not
    || too likely for procrastination man, haha.

    🙂. You're retired, right? A month for working up distance.....doable 🙂
    You're not starting from ground zero.

    ||
    || -B
    || You got any cue sheets, map, anything? webpage?

    http://www.festivelo.com/index.php

    The route is there. I mapped it in MS Streets and Trips. It goes right by
    the ocean!

  12. Quoted message said:


    So I have


    the right shoes and matching

    Quoted message said:

    helmet.


    -B

    Quoted message said:

    It's all about the accessories.

    Now that's my kind of guy!!!!!

  13. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:59:44 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Badger_South wrote:
    || On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:26 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    || <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ||
    ||| When is this again?
    |||
    ||| You and your brother should come to Charleston SC on December 4 for
    ||| the Festavelo de Charleston. There is a metric and a real century
    ||| on that day. As it is flat (I hope), it should be an easy 100
    ||| miles. If I blow this one, I'm giving up bicycling.
    ||
    || You offering a crash pad, bro? lol.

    I don't live in Charleston. I'll be driving down myself. But I'll offer you
    a riding buddy! I'm always up for spying the babes.

    ||
    || I don't know about him, certainly for next year. Me, jeeze, I'm not
    || sure, perhaps if it were in the spring. It's just that 12/4 is too
    || close to prep for.

    Yeah, it would be tight....but it is a *flat* ride.

    ||
    || Definitely next year...this year I'd have to let you know how my
    || training
    || is going near the middle of November...but I may have an event
    || planned for the last week in Nov. which might conflict.
    ||
    || Tempting, though. Jeeze, we're talking 3 weeks of prep and planning?
    || Not
    || too likely for procrastination man, haha.

    🙂. You're retired, right? A month for working up distance.....doable 🙂
    You're not starting from ground zero.

    ||
    || -B
    || You got any cue sheets, map, anything? webpage?

    http://www.festivelo.com/index.php

    The route is there. I mapped it in MS Streets and Trips. It goes right by
    the ocean!

    Now you're making it tough. Where you coming from to get there again, I
    forgot, Ohio? No need for specifics in open ng, though.

    -B

  14. Badger_South wrote:
    || On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:59:44 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    || <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ||
    ||| Badger_South wrote:
    ||||| On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:26 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    ||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |||||
    |||||| When is this again?
    ||||||
    |||||| You and your brother should come to Charleston SC on December 4
    |||||| for
    |||||| the Festavelo de Charleston. There is a metric and a real
    |||||| century
    |||||| on that day. As it is flat (I hope), it should be an easy 100
    |||||| miles. If I blow this one, I'm giving up bicycling.
    |||||
    ||||| You offering a crash pad, bro? lol.
    |||
    ||| I don't live in Charleston. I'll be driving down myself. But I'll
    ||| offer you a riding buddy! I'm always up for spying the babes.
    |||
    |||||
    ||||| I don't know about him, certainly for next year. Me, jeeze, I'm
    ||||| not sure, perhaps if it were in the spring. It's just that 12/4
    ||||| is too
    ||||| close to prep for.
    |||
    ||| Yeah, it would be tight....but it is a *flat* ride.
    |||
    |||||
    ||||| Definitely next year...this year I'd have to let you know how my
    ||||| training
    ||||| is going near the middle of November...but I may have an event
    ||||| planned for the last week in Nov. which might conflict.
    |||||
    ||||| Tempting, though. Jeeze, we're talking 3 weeks of prep and
    ||||| planning?
    ||||| Not
    ||||| too likely for procrastination man, haha.
    |||
    ||| 🙂. You're retired, right? A month for working up
    ||| distance.....doable 🙂 You're not starting from ground zero.
    |||
    |||
    |||||
    ||||| -B
    ||||| You got any cue sheets, map, anything? webpage?
    |||
    ||| http://www.festivelo.com/index.php
    |||
    ||| The route is there. I mapped it in MS Streets and Trips. It goes
    ||| right by the ocean!
    |||
    ||
    || Now you're making it tough. Where you coming from to get there
    || again, I forgot, Ohio? No need for specifics in open ng, though.

    Greenville, SC

  15. Roger Zoul said:

    The route is there. I mapped it in MS Streets and Trips. It goes right by
    the ocean!

    Ok, I'm sold. We are going to Seabrook Island for Thanksgiving, and I
    have been hestitating about driving back to Charleston a week later.

    I wanted to do the one in Georgia, but my son is taking the SSAT that
    Saturday.

    Pam

  16. Maggie said:
    Quoted message said:

    So I have

    the right shoes and matching

    Quoted message said:

    helmet.

    -B

    Quoted message said:

    It's all about the accessories.

    Now that's my kind of guy!!!!!

    This lady is gonna get along great with Fabrizio.

    :-D

    -km

    --
    Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester

    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
    proud to be owned by a yorkie

  17. pam_in_sc wrote:
    || Roger Zoul wrote:
    ||
    ||| The route is there. I mapped it in MS Streets and Trips. It goes
    ||| right by the ocean!
    ||
    ||
    || Ok, I'm sold. We are going to Seabrook Island for Thanksgiving, and
    || I
    || have been hestitating about driving back to Charleston a week later.
    ||

    Good! We'll have another chance to meet on a ride!

    || I wanted to do the one in Georgia, but my son is taking the SSAT that
    || Saturday.

    Yeah, I got too busy with travel to even think about that one seriously.
    But I'm committed to the Festavelo. I believe another guy from the RfR will
    also be there.

  18. the black rose <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Maggie said:
    Quoted message said:

    So I have

    the right shoes and matching

    Quoted message said:

    helmet.

    -B

    Quoted message said:

    It's all about the accessories.

    Now that's my kind of guy!!!!!

    This lady is gonna get along great with Fabrizio.

    :-D

    Who is Fabrizio and where does he shop for his accessories? It's
    definately (sp) all about the accessories.
    Peace and Stuff

    Quoted message said:


    -km

  19. Maggie said:

    the black rose <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Maggie said:

    >So I have

    the right shoes and matching

    >helmet.
    >

    -B

    >It's all about the accessories.

    Now that's my kind of guy!!!!!

    This lady is gonna get along great with Fabrizio.

    :-D

    Who is Fabrizio and where does he shop for his accessories? It's
    definately (sp) all about the accessories.

    Fabrizio is... Fabrizio. He best speaks for himself, but
    he's our, um, resident fashion advisor.

    We invoked his name, he'll show up sooner or later.

    O:-)

    -km

    --
    Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester

    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
    proud to be owned by a yorkie

  20. Roger Zoul said:

    pam_in_sc wrote:
    || Roger Zoul wrote:
    ||
    ||| The route is there. I mapped it in MS Streets and Trips. It goes
    ||| right by the ocean!
    ||
    ||
    || Ok, I'm sold. We are going to Seabrook Island for Thanksgiving, and
    || I
    || have been hestitating about driving back to Charleston a week later.
    ||

    Good! We'll have another chance to meet on a ride!

    || I wanted to do the one in Georgia, but my son is taking the SSAT that
    || Saturday.

    Yeah, I got too busy with travel to even think about that one seriously.
    But I'm committed to the Festavelo. I believe another guy from the RfR will
    also be there.


    Do you know which of the motels is closest to the camp? I like to get
    an earlier start than my husband and kids, who will do the family fun ride.

    Pam

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