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  1. Original post
    Mike Kruger
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    In the NYT article I sent you, there is the following
    passage:

    "It's true that the story of Sodom is treated by both modern
    scholars and by ancient Ezekiel as about hospitality,
    rather than homosexuality. In Sodom, Lot puts up two male
    strangers for the night. When a lustful mob demands they be
    handed over, Lot offers his two virgin daughters instead.
    After some further unpleasantness, God destroys Sodom."

    I got curious about Ezechiel; in chapter 16 of Ezechiel,
    Ezechiel is accusing his fellow Jews of having fallen away,
    and of playing a harlot with nearby countries and religions
    (at this time, they are weak, and are basically paying
    tribute to Egypt, Babylonia and/or Assyria in order to avoid
    being taken over).

    With Jerusalem as a harlot, there is a discussion of Sodom
    as her "sister" city:

    16:49 " 'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and
    her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they
    did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and
    did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with
    them as you have seen.

    --
    Mike Kruger
    "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good
    enough for us." - Former Texas Governor Miriam Ferguson

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  2. Mike Kruger
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    I'm sorry. That post was NOT supposed to go to
    rec.bicycles.misc.

    I'm sorry for top posting, too, but in this case I hope you
    forgive me.

    Mike Kruger wrote:

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  3. maxo
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    Mike Kruger said:

    I'm sorry. That post was NOT supposed to go to rec.bicycles.misc.

    I'm sorry for top posting, too, but in this case I hope you forgive me.

    Mike Kruger wrote:

    Damn, and me here with an Ezechiel frame looking for leads.

    😄

    Nothing rides like an Ezechiel.

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  4. B i l l S o r n s o n
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    Mike Kruger said:

    I'm sorry. That post was NOT supposed to go to
    rec.bicycles.misc.

    I'm sorry for top posting, too, but in this case I hope you
    forgive me.

    Oh, [censored]...NOW you've done it!

    Bill "someone tell DRS it's his cue" S.

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  5. Zoot Katz
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    Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:37:52 -0500,
    <1098578287.7bTx/siz0Wv1GOWwpGufSA@teranews>,

    Mike Kruger said:

    I'm sorry for top posting, too, but in this case I hope you
    forgive me.

    Mike Kruger wrote:

    Well. . . maybe after I un plonk you again.
    --
    zk

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  6. Mike Jacoubowsky
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm sorry. That post was NOT supposed to go to
    rec.bicycles.misc.

    I'm sorry for top posting, too, but in this case I hope you
    forgive me.

    Mike: We've all been there, done that. But, are you aware that you can
    cancel a usenet posting? It won't stop it from getting all over the place in
    the short time it's out there, but does keep it from continuing to download
    (once it's no longer cached all over the place).

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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  7. greggery peccary
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    "Mike Kruger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1098578287.7bTx/siz0Wv1GOWwpGufSA@teranews...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sorry. That post was NOT supposed to go to
    rec.bicycles.misc.

    I'm sorry for top posting, too, but in this case I hope you
    forgive me.

    Mike Kruger wrote:


    it was worth it just for the quote at the end...

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  8. Badger_South
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    maxo said:
    Mike Kruger said:

    I'm sorry. That post was NOT supposed to go to rec.bicycles.misc.

    I'm sorry for top posting, too, but in this case I hope you forgive me.

    Mike Kruger wrote:

    Damn, and me here with an Ezechiel frame looking for leads.

    😄

    Nothing rides like an Ezechiel.

    Ezechiel Frames : it's a Latin company, apparently, that, I believe
    specializes in Frames for the Prologue (TT): (and I quote🙂

    "Incipit prologus in ezechiel prophetae, Ezechiel propheta cum ... some
    gold, orange and green, and enclosed...narrow gold frame...carbonatum..."

    http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Scriptorium/hehweb/HM1073.html

    -B
    ;-P

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  9. Muttley
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    On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:36:43 -0500, "Mike Kruger" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Things about Ezekiel

    I wonder how many people pronounce it rather as Es-ee-key-al

    and how many rather like Es-ek-aye-al

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  10. maxo
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    Badger_South said:

    "Incipit prologus in ezechiel prophetae, Ezechiel propheta cum ... some
    gold, orange and green, and enclosed...narrow gold frame...carbonatum..."

    Yes that's what my dealer chanted when he sold it to me. The stole looked
    rather weird with the shop apron.

    😄

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  11. B i l l S o r n s o n
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    Muttley said:
    Mike Kruger said:

    Things about Ezekiel

    I wonder how many people pronounce it rather as Es-ee-key-al

    and how many rather like Es-ek-aye-al

    The coyotes will get you for that.

    Bill "GIMME BACK MY CAT!!!" S.

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  12. the black rose
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    B i l l S o r n s o n said:
    Muttley said:
    Mike Kruger said:

    Things about Ezekiel

    I wonder how many people pronounce it rather as Es-ee-key-al

    and how many rather like Es-ek-aye-al

    The coyotes will get you for that.

    Bill "GIMME BACK MY CAT!!!" S.

    Tsk, Bill. Cats walk all over everything... kitchen
    counters, for example. YUCK.

    -km

    --
    Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester

    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
    proud to be owned by a yorkie

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  13. Hunrobe
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    Quoted message said:

    the black rose [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Tsk, Bill. Cats walk all over everything... kitchen
    counters, for example. YUCK.

    The only time a cat belongs on a kitchen counter is when the kitchen is in a
    Chinese restaurant. Yum.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

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  14. Pat
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    : >Tsk, Bill. Cats walk all over everything... kitchen
    : >counters, for example. YUCK.
    : >
    :
    : The only time a cat belongs on a kitchen counter is when the kitchen is in
    a
    : Chinese restaurant. Yum.
    :
    : Regards,
    : Bob Hunt

    Hah! Made me smile!

    Pat in TX

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  15. the black rose
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    Hunrobe said:
    Quoted message said:

    the black rose [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Tsk, Bill. Cats walk all over everything... kitchen
    counters, for example. YUCK.

    The only time a cat belongs on a kitchen counter is when the kitchen is in a
    Chinese restaurant. Yum.

    You sure about that?

    Cats are technically predators. Wouldn't that make them
    kinda gamey?

    Besides. I'm so allergic to cats that if they lick me I get
    a big red welt from the saliva. I doubt I could safely eat one.

    -km

    --
    Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester

    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
    proud to be owned by a yorkie

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  16. Badger_South
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    the black rose said:

    You sure about that?

    Cats are technically predators. Wouldn't that make them
    kinda gamey?

    Besides. I'm so allergic to cats that if they lick me I get
    a big red welt from the saliva. I doubt I could safely eat one.

    -km

    You related to ALF?

    -B
    <g,d&r>

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  17. the black rose
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    Badger_South said:
    the black rose said:

    You sure about that?

    Cats are technically predators. Wouldn't that make them
    kinda gamey?

    Besides. I'm so allergic to cats that if they lick me I get
    a big red welt from the saliva. I doubt I could safely eat one.

    -km

    You related to ALF?

    -B
    <g,d&r>

    "The only good cat is a stir-fried cat."

    :-D

    -km

    --
    Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester

    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
    proud to be owned by a yorkie

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  18. Jym Dyer
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    =v= I'm not sure why this was posted to rec.bicycles.misc
    (and I don't really need to know -- really, don't bother),
    but I might be able to drag it back on-topic with this
    following passage from Ezekiel:

    "And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them:
    and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the
    wheels were lifted up. Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they
    went, and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the
    spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. When those
    went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when
    those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up
    over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in
    the wheels."

    =v= Any questions? If so, consult the Madonna del Ghisallo:

    http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/mary0004.htm

    <_Jym_>

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  19. Dane Jackson
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    the black rose said:
    Hunrobe said:


    The only time a cat belongs on a kitchen counter is when the kitchen is in a
    Chinese restaurant. Yum.

    You sure about that?

    Cats are technically predators. Wouldn't that make them
    kinda gamey?

    From what I understand, you're right cats taste somewhat bad.

    I was talking to my wife's grandfather about this subject, I can't
    remember how it started. But I commented that lots of people ate dog
    and all sorts of everything else (even rat - http://tinyurl.com/4cn6d).
    But pretty much nobody eats cats.

    He was talking about being in northern Africa during WWII. He was on
    guard duty with some allied soldiers (Arab - he wasn't more specific)
    and they offered some him some stew. He said it was good, but he wanted
    to know what was in it. The other soldier picked up a cat head that was
    lying near the cookpot. He said he declined any more stew.

    Quoted message said:

    Besides. I'm so allergic to cats that if they lick me I get
    a big red welt from the saliva. I doubt I could safely eat one.

    The allergens are almost certainly exclusive to the fur/dander and
    saliva. I doubt cooked cat meat would bother you. Your homework
    assignment is to go test this out. For extra credit post the recipe
    you use.

    😉

    --
    Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
    "We are shut up in schools and college recitation rooms for
    ten or fifteen years, and come out at last with a bellyful of
    words and do not know a thing." -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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