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  1. Hi,

    Well I'm finally back in the saddle, after about 5-1/2 months of going
    without a uni--I finally got the funds, and the bug is back.

    I've just started to get into rolling hops with my KH20" Pro, with
    Profiles, and tilted seat, and I was wondering how I might be able to
    get higher rolling hops. I find that I often cop-out at trying bigger
    stuff, so I really don't know where I can push the limits. I know from
    riding with some trials bicyclist around Western Michigan University
    that I can get 20" of air on flat ground.

    How can I increase my confidence? I've only been back riding, with a
    new unicycle mind you, for a little over a month, with about two dozen
    practice sessions within that. I've been trying to get all my skills
    back. Should I be more patient, and keep practicing? Will the length
    rolling hops, and height rolling hops increase on their own that way?
    Are their techniques I can use so that someday I might be able to
    confidently roll hop onto a picnic table?

    Right now I've been concentrating on everything at once: balance, still
    stand, trials consistency (excess hop removal), riding skinnies,
    mounting skinnies for future rail riding, rolling hops (long/up),
    learning pedal grabs (which I got onto a concrete ledge today that had a
    beveled top edge (so only 2/3 of my pedal were on it) and that was about
    36" high).

    So am I trying for too much at once? Are there real techniques on
    cycle, and off that I can use to get used to the feel of rolling hops,
    whether for distance, or height?

    Thanks for your time,

    Evan,
    the wants-to-be-an-expert-trials-rider-all-at-once unicyclist.

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  2. Take off waay farther back than you think you should. Then bring the
    wheel up in front of you and land it on the obstacle.

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  3. TrialsUni said:

    *Hi,

    Well I'm finally back in the saddle, after about 5-1/2 months of going
    without a uni--I finally got the funds, and the bug is back.

    I've just started to get into rolling hops with my KH20" Pro, with
    Profiles, and tilted seat, and I was wondering how I might be able to
    get higher rolling hops. I find that I often cop-out at trying bigger
    stuff, so I really don't know where I can push the limits. I know
    from riding with some trials bicyclist around Western Michigan
    University that I can get 20" of air on flat ground.

    How can I increase my confidence? I've only been back riding, with a
    new unicycle mind you, for a little over a month, with about two dozen
    practice sessions within that. I've been trying to get all my skills
    back. Should I be more patient, and keep practicing? Will the length
    rolling hops, and height rolling hops increase on their own that way?
    Are their techniques I can use so that someday I might be able to
    confidently roll hop onto a picnic table?

    Right now I've been concentrating on everything at once: balance,
    still stand, trials consistency (excess hop removal), riding skinnies,
    mounting skinnies for future rail riding, rolling hops (long/up),
    learning pedal grabs (which I got onto a concrete ledge today that had
    a beveled top edge (so only 2/3 of my pedal were on it) and that was
    about 36" high).

    So am I trying for too much at once? Are there real techniques on
    cycle, and off that I can use to get used to the feel of rolling hops,
    whether for distance, or height?

    Thanks for your time,

    Evan,
    the wants-to-be-an-expert-trials-rider-all-at-once unicyclist. *

    I like how you're approaching your riding. There's no limit to how much
    you can practice at once, as long as you don't detract from other
    important skills. A 36" pedalgrab is pretty good.

    A rolling hop on a uni is no different from a running jump on your feet,
    except thqat you have a wheel under you and you can't go as fast, and
    it's tons more intimidating. A few hints and things I've noticed:

    Aprehension before a big rolling hop is absolutely natural, and is
    generally reasonable, to a degree. I can do about 32-33" rolling, but I
    still get nervous on stuff as low as 29". Don't ignore this feeling.
    There's a reason it's there. But on the other hand, don't let your
    riding be dominated by it. Sometimes it's helpful to learn things bit by
    bit, by working your way up. i landed my record rolling hop by
    increasing the height 1/2-1" at a time. Another thing I use to manage my
    fear is to remember how I will fall if I don't make it. I have around a
    99% success rate when I go for rolling hops, all the way up to about
    31". Past that, the number drops to a decent 80%. This means that I
    don't have experince falling. I have to remind myself that if I don't
    make the height, the worst thing to happen will be that I hit my wheel
    on the object and I fall forward, without much injury. This makes me
    commit more to the hop and more successful.

    When doing rolling hops, a good way to do it is to measure your pedals
    so that you are *absolutely* sure that they will line up. You should
    make roling hops have as little distraction as possible. A good rule of
    thumb I use for measurement is that I will leave the ground at a
    distance equal to the height of the object. Honestly. This means that I
    will be jumping from as far out as 32" for hops bove 30". It's wierd,
    but it really works.

    I hope this helps.

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    army can get you a Medal, while playing with one can get you thrown
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  4. Learn from the master...

    Andrew

    P.S. I also have a copy of this series of frames that's a bit of double
    the size if anyone wants it. It will eventually go up at
    www.unicycle.2ya.com anyway.

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  5. gerblefranklin... that has got to be the most helpful info on rolling
    hops i've ever read... andrew, put that on your site!

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  6. The first step however may be the most important step of all:
    turn your hat backwards.

    that was a very impressive and helpful frame by frame. Your site is
    great Andrew. Keep up the good work.

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  7. Robbie said:

    *gerblefranklin... that has got to be the most helpful info on rolling
    hops i've ever read... andrew, put that on your site! *

    uhhh... Thanks. I don't know if it should neccessarily be put on an
    advice site, although the general themes I talk about are fine. But
    either way, I'm gald it was helpful. BTW, Andrew, if you wanna put it on
    your site for some reason, I won't stop you.

    Andrew: I've been waiting to see that frame by frame. What amazes me is
    how Dan jumps off of his rim, not the bounce of his tire. He rides
    around 15 psi, so when he jumps his rim bottoms out. More pressure in
    his tire would give him more bounce, but I'm not one to talk, sicne he
    can jump higher and better than I.

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    gerblefranklin - Trials Unicyclist

    Don't you think it's a cruel irony that acting like a G.I. Joe in the
    army can get you a Medal, while playing with one can get you thrown
    out?

    http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Trials-Muni

    "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful. They will stop at nothing
    to hurt us and our people, and nethier will we"-Dubya
    Vote Kerry. Yeah, they both suck, but Kerry sucks less.
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  8. Hi,

    Thanks for the help!

    So what I gather I need to work on is springing upward. When I spring
    up, do I pull the seat up towards me (towards crotch area) for extra
    height?

    So, crouch, spring up when I'm as far back as the object is tall , and
    tuck in, while swinging my free arm down towards my object.

    I imagine the learning progression is slow--especially during the long
    periods of cold weather I have here in Michigan. I think part of my
    inability to be confident in it, is that I'm going upwards, when leaning
    and springing forwards seems natural since I'm travelling forwards--and
    also the speed of the process involved. Maybe by the end of next summer
    I'll be at about 30". That's my goal.

    Thanks for the tips,
    Evan

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