Lights

"Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've currently got a 10W halogen setup, and it chucks out enough light for
me to see what I'm doing. Does the new Cateye EL500 (I think that's the
number, biggest LED lamp they do) produce anything like the amount of

light

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I need from a backup lamp for off road riding in the dark? Are headtorches
any good?

Duno, i just use a big flashelight with 4 D batteries in it, bungied to my
tube that goes from my head set to my seat tube.

Micheal....

Doki said:

I've currently got a 10W halogen setup, and it chucks out enough
light for me to see what I'm doing. Does the new Cateye EL500 (I
think that's the number, biggest LED lamp they do) produce anything
like the amount of light I need from a backup lamp for off road
riding in the dark? Are headtorches any good?

The EL500 is made for a rider to be seen, but not to see. I had one,
used it one time and returned it.

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Doki said...

Quoted message said:

I've currently got a 10W halogen setup, and it chucks out enough light for
me to see what I'm doing. Does the new Cateye EL500 (I think that's the
number, biggest LED lamp they do) produce anything like the amount of light
I need from a backup lamp for off road riding in the dark? Are headtorches
any good?

LED lights are cheap toys. None of them put out enough light to see if
there is any competing light at all. Your 10w halogen is probably at
least 5 times as bright as an EL500.

SuperSlinky said:

Doki said...

Quoted message said:

I've currently got a 10W halogen setup, and it chucks out enough
light for me to see what I'm doing. Does the new Cateye EL500 (I
think that's the number, biggest LED lamp they do) produce anything
like the amount of light I need from a backup lamp for off road
riding in the dark? Are headtorches any good?

LED lights are cheap toys. None of them put out enough light to see if
there is any competing light at all. Your 10w halogen is probably at
least 5 times as bright as an EL500.

You've obviously not seen solidlights. Bloody seriously bright for LEDS
(brighter than 10W halogen). Not cheap though.

Doki said...

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You've obviously not seen solidlights. Bloody seriously bright for LEDS
(brighter than 10W halogen). Not cheap though.

Then buy them and let us know how it turns out. I just have to wonder
why you asked if you knew so much about the subject. But I was directing
my comments toward Cateye and other commonly available LED lights, not
an obscure boutique item. LEDs may or may not be the future of lighting,
but looking at the Solidlights web page, I really can't see any
significant advantage over HID lights, but no big disadvantages either,
unless they have the same sickening blue light of the Cateye LEDs.

SuperSlinky said:

Doki said...

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You've obviously not seen solidlights. Bloody seriously bright for
LEDS (brighter than 10W halogen). Not cheap though.

Then buy them and let us know how it turns out. I just have to wonder
why you asked if you knew so much about the subject. But I was
directing my comments toward Cateye and other commonly available LED
lights, not an obscure boutique item. LEDs may or may not be the
future of lighting, but looking at the Solidlights web page, I really
can't see any significant advantage over HID lights, but no big
disadvantages either, unless they have the same sickening blue light
of the Cateye LEDs.

I was just pointing out that LED lights are not *all* cheap piece of [censored]
that won't chuck enough light out for you to see what's going on. If I
wanted a set of solidlights, I'd get them. What I want is something that's
not terribly dim, not terrifically expensive, and I can keep as a backup
(with alkaline batteries) incase the batteries die on my Halogens whilst I'm
still riding.

Doki said...

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I was just pointing out that LED lights are not *all* cheap piece of [censored]
that won't chuck enough light out for you to see what's going on. If I
wanted a set of solidlights, I'd get them. What I want is something that's
not terribly dim, not terrifically expensive, and I can keep as a backup
(with alkaline batteries) incase the batteries die on my Halogens whilst I'm
still riding.

The El500 may do it, but I don't think you will be overly impressed with
the output. I'm thinking your best bet would be to get a backup battery
for your halogen and carry that along. It probably wouldn't be much
heavier, bulkier or much more expensive than an EL500.

SuperSlinky said:

Doki said...

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I was just pointing out that LED lights are not *all* cheap piece of
[censored] that won't chuck enough light out for you to see what's going
on. If I wanted a set of solidlights, I'd get them. What I want is
something that's not terribly dim, not terrifically expensive, and I
can keep as a backup (with alkaline batteries) incase the batteries
die on my Halogens whilst I'm still riding.

The El500 may do it, but I don't think you will be overly impressed
with the output. I'm thinking your best bet would be to get a backup
battery for your halogen and carry that along. It probably wouldn't
be much heavier, bulkier or much more expensive than an EL500.

It probably would be heavy if not terrifically expensive, as it's an SLA
system.

quote='Doki'SuperSlinky said:

Doki said...

Quoted message said:

I was just pointing out that LED lights are not *all* cheap piece of
[censored] that won't chuck enough light out for you to see what's going
on. If I wanted a set of solidlights, I'd get them. What I want is
something that's not terribly dim, not terrifically expensive, and I
can keep as a backup (with alkaline batteries) incase the batteries
die on my Halogens whilst I'm still riding.

The El500 may do it, but I don't think you will be overly impressed
with the output. I'm thinking your best bet would be to get a backup
battery for your halogen and carry that along. It probably wouldn't
be much heavier, bulkier or much more expensive than an EL500.

It probably would be heavy if not terrifically expensive, as it's an SLA
system.[/QUOTE]
How do you chuck light? I just got a brand new cygo light with two 6.25w halogen lights and I'm about an hour away from using it for the first time on a scary night descent. 1.9 miles dropping over 600ft elevation. Wish me luck!

P.s. NEVER look directly into any halogen light while plugging in the battery my eye still aches!

Micheal Artindale said:

Duno, i just use a big flashelight with 4 D batteries in it, bungied to my
tube that goes from my head set to my seat tube.

ahh Mag Light, Jr. Police model :-D

now if they only offered one under 500g (with batteries)?

bri

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"bri719" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Micheal Artindale said:

Duno, i just use a big flashelight with 4 D batteries in it, bungied to

my

Quoted message said:

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tube that goes from my head set to my seat tube.

ahh Mag Light, Jr. Police model :-D

Not that style, one of the big ones

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now if they only offered one under 500g (with batteries)?

Im not too concerned with the weight, when i am concerned about the safety
of me.

Micheal

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ahh Mag Light, Jr. Police model :-D

Not that style, one of the big ones

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now if they only offered one under 500g (with batteries)?

Im not too concerned with the weight, when i am concerned about the safety
of me.

Google: "Streamlight Polly Stinger"

lightweight, compact, tough as nails, rechargable and more CandlePower than
a MagLight
It is what everybody on my PD carries.... I have 4 of them, one on my duty
belt, one in my duty-bag (with an additional spare charged battery) and two
at the house in the charging cradles in case we loose power.....
I also keep one in my Camel'Bak as a back-up when I go for night rides

J G said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ahh Mag Light, Jr. Police model :-D

Not that style, one of the big ones

Quoted message said:

now if they only offered one under 500g (with batteries)?

Im not too concerned with the weight, when i am concerned about the
safety
of me.

Google: "Streamlight Polly Stinger"

lightweight, compact, tough as nails, rechargable and more CandlePower
than
a MagLight
It is what everybody on my PD carries.... I have 4 of them, one on my
duty
belt, one in my duty-bag (with an additional spare charged battery) and
two
at the house in the charging cradles in case we loose power.....
I also keep one in my Camel'Bak as a back-up when I go for night rides

Those look nice, but would never fly here @ the LAPD. Smacking someone
upside the head with a Nylon flashlight doesn't quite have that same sound
as Aluminum.

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"J G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ahh Mag Light, Jr. Police model :-D

Not that style, one of the big ones

Quoted message said:

now if they only offered one under 500g (with batteries)?

Im not too concerned with the weight, when i am concerned about the

safety

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Quoted message said:

of me.

Google: "Streamlight Polly Stinger"

lightweight, compact, tough as nails, rechargable and more CandlePower

than

Quoted message said:

a MagLight

I ll keep my $10 light.... those on a site were priced at $100+

Micheal

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[email hidden] wrote:
Google: "Streamlight Polly Stinger"

lightweight, compact, tough as nails, rechargable and more CandlePower
than
a MagLight
It is what everybody on my PD carries.... I have 4 of them, one on my
duty
belt, one in my duty-bag (with an additional spare charged battery) and
two
at the house in the charging cradles in case we loose power.....
I also keep one in my Camel'Bak as a back-up when I go for night rides

Those look nice, but would never fly here @ the LAPD. Smacking someone
upside the head with a Nylon flashlight doesn't quite have that same sound
as Aluminum.

That is precicely why we cannot carry metal flashlights in Memphis...
A kinder gentler police department (we get 15% OCS Spray instead ;-)
Rumor has it that saps (black jacks) are soon to be baned as well.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Google: "Streamlight Polly Stinger"

lightweight, compact, tough as nails, rechargable and more CandlePower

than

Quoted message said:

a MagLight

I ll keep my $10 light.... those on a site were priced at $100

How much do you spend in batteries over the lifetime of the product?

"J G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Google: "Streamlight Polly Stinger"

lightweight, compact, tough as nails, rechargable and more CandlePower

than

Quoted message said:

a MagLight

I ll keep my $10 light.... those on a site were priced at $100

How much do you spend in batteries over the lifetime of the product?

it takes 4 d batteries..... the cheapies last a year, even when using it for
"normal" flashlight stuff

Micheal

J G said:

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Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:
Google: "Streamlight Polly Stinger"

lightweight, compact, tough as nails, rechargable and more CandlePower
than
a MagLight
It is what everybody on my PD carries.... I have 4 of them, one on my
duty
belt, one in my duty-bag (with an additional spare charged battery) and
two
at the house in the charging cradles in case we loose power.....
I also keep one in my Camel'Bak as a back-up when I go for night rides

Those look nice, but would never fly here @ the LAPD. Smacking someone
upside the head with a Nylon flashlight doesn't quite have that same
sound
as Aluminum.

That is precicely why we cannot carry metal flashlights in Memphis...
A kinder gentler police department (we get 15% OCS Spray instead ;-)
Rumor has it that saps (black jacks) are soon to be baned as well.

Nice to see some PDs have a heart :-)

Note to self: Move to Memphis before resuming illegal activities.
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