I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well. The wheel has shifted over and the tire will rub against the chainstay. Bontrager tech support says to tighten them to 45 lbs. but I don't see anyway to put a torque wrench on the skewer. I have tightened them extremely tight and the wheel still moves. I have put my old Campy skewers on and the wheel holds fine now. I looked at the Bontrager rear skewer and found that on the side with the quick release the part that goes against the dropout is made of plastic. I don't see how plastic can be used instead of metal in this area. Is plastic used by other hub companies?
I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well. The wheel has shifted over and the tire will rub against the chainstay. Bontrager tech support says to tighten them to 45 lbs. but I don't see anyway to put a torque wrench on the skewer.
"lbs" is not a unit of torque, it's a unit of force.
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I have tightened them extremely tight and the wheel still moves. I have put my old Campy skewers on and the wheel holds fine now. I looked at the Bontrager rear skewer and found that on the side with the quick release the part that goes against the dropout is made of plastic. I don't see how plastic can be used instead of metal in this area. Is plastic used by other hub companies?
There are a lot of expensive but very poor-performing skewers out there, often with premium brand names.
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I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well. The wheel has shifted over and the tire will rub against the chainstay. Bontrager tech support says to tighten them to 45 lbs. but I don't see anyway to put a torque wrench on the skewer.
"lbs" is not a unit of torque, it's a unit of force.
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I have tightened them extremely tight and the wheel still moves. I have put my old Campy skewers on and the wheel holds fine now. I looked at the Bontrager rear skewer and found that on the side with the quick release the part that goes against the dropout is made of plastic. I don't see how plastic can be used instead of metal in this area. Is plastic used by other hub companies?
There are a lot of expensive but very poor-performing skewers out there, often with premium brand names.
Sheldon "Enclosed Cam" Brown +--------------------------------------------------------+ | You can fool some of the people all of the time, | | and those are the ones we're after! --Anon. | +--------------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.comhttp://sheldonbrown.com
Thanks for the information. The bike is a 1978 Gios Torino which has the horizontal dropouts. I did not realize that the new type skewers do not work well with this type of dropout. I'll just keep the Campy skewers. Does seem strange that Bontrager does not even use any metal on the cam side of the skewer. Even with vertical dropouts this does not seem like a good idea. I have more than a few reservations about these wheels.
I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well. The wheel has shifted over and the tire will rub against the chainstay.
I've had this problem with various skewers, especially with horizontal dropouts, double especially if they're chromed.
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Bontrager tech support says to tighten them to 45 lbs. but I don't see anyway to put a torque wrench on the skewer.
I think that's 45 pounds of closing force on the end of the lever.
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I have tightened them extremely tight and the wheel still moves. I have put my old Campy skewers on and the wheel holds fine now. I looked at the Bontrager rear skewer and found that on the side with the quick release the part that goes against the dropout is made of plastic. I don't see how plastic can be used instead of metal in this area. Is plastic used by other hub companies?
My Bontrager skewers have metal, not plastic, touching the frame. The plastic bit is just a cam follower. Maybe your skewer is missing a part? Got a photo?
Thanks for the information. The bike is a 1978 Gios Torino which has the horizontal dropouts. I did not realize that the new type skewers do not
work
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well with this type of dropout. I'll just keep the Campy skewers. Does
seem
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strange that Bontrager does not even use any metal on the cam side of the skewer. Even with vertical dropouts this does not seem like a good idea.
I
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have more than a few reservations about these wheels.
Neal
The wheels are good, it's just the skewers suck. Same thing with my American Classic 420's on my Serotta Ti. Replace their skewers with Shimano skewers and zero movement.
I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well. The wheel has shifted over and the tire will rub against the chainstay. Bontrager tech support says to tighten them to 45 lbs. but I don't see anyway to put a torque wrench on the skewer. I have tightened them extremely tight and the wheel still moves. I have put my old Campy skewers on and the wheel holds fine now. I looked at the Bontrager rear skewer and found that on the side with the quick release the part that goes against the dropout is made of plastic. I don't see how plastic can be used instead of metal in this area. Is plastic used by other hub companies?
Neal
sheldon's right on target. enclosed cam is the [only] way to go.
I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well. The wheel has shifted over and the tire will rub against the chainstay. Bontrager tech support says to tighten them to 45 lbs. but I don't see anyway to put a torque wrench on the skewer. I have tightened them extremely tight and the wheel still moves. I have put my old Campy skewers on and the wheel holds fine now. I looked at the Bontrager rear skewer and found that on the side with the quick release the part that goes against the dropout is made of plastic. I don't see how plastic can be used instead of metal in this area. Is plastic used by other hub companies?
Neal
Neal: There should not be any plastic part of the quick release against any part of the frame. That part should be aluminum; if it's not, something is screwy. As for clamping force, make sure you lubricate the external cam (the parts that rub against each other as you open & close the quick release). If this isn't lubricated, it can feel like you're putting a lot of pressure on it when you're tightening it, but in reality there is very little clamping action against the frame. And finally, the later versions of Bontrager (and probably others) quick releases have a cam that actually gets a bit looser during the final closing action. This is intentional, so that, if the quick release were to be a bit looser than it should be, it can't flip open because it will actually get a bit tighter first.
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I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well. The wheel has shifted over and the tire will rub against the chainstay. Bontrager tech support says to tighten them to 45 lbs. but I don't see anyway to put a torque wrench on the skewer. I have tightened them extremely tight and the wheel still moves. I have put my old Campy skewers on and the wheel holds fine now. I looked at the Bontrager rear skewer and found that on the side with the quick release the part that goes against the dropout is made of plastic. I don't see how plastic can be used instead of metal in this area. Is plastic used by other hub companies?
I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well.
Consider getting a REAL set of QR skewers, rather than tinfoil stuff from your "far out, man" wheelset. joytech makes a good set that works just great hill-climbing on my tandem for $7.90 a pair.
I just got a set of Bontrager race lite wheels and I am having a problem with the rear wheel skewer not holding well. The wheel has shifted over and the tire will rub against the chainstay. Bontrager tech support says to tighten them to 45 lbs. but I don't see anyway to put a torque wrench on the skewer. I have tightened them extremely tight and the wheel still moves. I have put my old Campy skewers on and the wheel holds fine now. I looked at the Bontrager rear skewer and found that on the side with the quick release the part that goes against the dropout is made of plastic. I don't see how plastic can be used instead of metal in this area. Is plastic used by other hub companies?
Neal
sheldon's right on target. enclosed cam is the [only] way to go.
There's a new Bontrager wheel ad I saw in ProCycling where they say they call their R&D department "Mr. Armstrong" and there's a photo of Lance riding in the yellow jersey and Bontrager wheels but the skewers definitely don't look like Bontragers.
