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  1. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I know. It's baseball. Who cares? Well, do we really
    know the long term effects of HGH or EPO? If you're Joey D and you
    research the drug, it must be safe. Hell, keeping the hemocrit at 50%
    or under is safe.... Not like the 60%er's who died with transmission
    oil thick blood. Except, that maybe, just maybe playing with the
    natural EPO production, and then removing the 'treatment' might just
    lead to big problems 20 years from now when your body stops making EPO
    itself.

    So I guess I should not be so mad. Fuentes stole $5000 from us in
    July, but I will live to see my 70th birthday. He won't. Neither will
    Joey. I will post when I hear about their passing in 20 years.

    crit pro

    --------------------
    Ken Caminiti, 1996 NL MVP, Dies at Age 41
    --------------------

    By BEN WALKER
    AP Baseball Writer

    October 11, 2004, 12:02 AM CDT

    NEW YORK -- Ken Caminiti, the 1996 National League MVP who later
    admitted using steroids during his major league career, died Sunday.
    He was 41.

    Caminiti died of a heart attack in the Bronx, said his agent-lawyer
    Rick Licht. The city medical examiner's office said an autopsy would
    be performed Monday, spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said.

    "I'm still in shock," San Diego Padres general manager Kevin Towers
    said. "He was one of my favorite all-time players."

    The three-time All-Star third baseman often was in trouble the last
    few years. His 15-year big league career ended in 2001, five seasons
    after he led the Padres to a division title and was a unanimous pick
    for MVP.

    Just last Tuesday, he admitted in a Houston court that he violated his
    probation by testing positive for cocaine last month, and was
    sentenced to 180 days in jail.

    But state District Judge William Harmon gave Caminiti credit for the
    189 days he already served in jail and a treatment facility since he
    was sentenced to three years probation for a cocaine arrest in March
    2001.

    In May 2002, Caminiti told Sports Illustrated that he used steroids
    during his MVP season, when he hit a career-high .326 with 40 home
    runs and 130 RBIs. He estimated half the players in the big leagues
    were also using them.

    Caminiti returned to baseball this year as a spring training
    instructor with San Diego.

    "When I saw him in spring training, he didn't look good," Towers said.
    "I'm not surprised."

    "The best way to describe him is that he was a warrior in every sense
    of the word. I can't tell you how many times I remember him hobbling
    into the manager's office, barely able to walk, and saying, `Put me in
    the lineup.'"

    Licht said Caminiti was in New York this past weekend to help a
    friend, but did not go into detail.

    "Man, that's just a tough one. I played with him for eight years,"
    Dodgers outfielder Steve Finley said Sunday night, learning of
    Caminiti's death after St. Louis eliminated Los Angeles from the
    playoffs.

    "He was a great player, but he got mixed up in the wrong things --
    taking drugs. It's a sad reminder of how bad drugs are and what they
    can do to your body. It's a loss all of us will feel."

    Caminiti batted .272 with 239 homers and 983 RBIs with Houston, San
    Diego, Texas and Atlanta.

    Copyright (c) 2004, The Associated Press

  2. Quoted message said:

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    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I know. It's baseball. Who cares? Well, do we really
    know the long term effects of HGH or >EPO?

    Maybe not as well as the long-term effects of cocaine. Including the infarcs
    (complicated with alcohol abuse) and the inability to stop using even while
    under court supervision.

    Quoted message said:

    So I guess I should not be so mad. Fuentes stole $5000 from us in
    July, but I will live to see my 70th >birthday. He won't.

    I'm no angel myself, but $5000 is far too low a price for this. --TP

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