Speaking of Bikes With Room For Large Tires . . .

Chris Hedges said:

Check out these pictures of the Surly Pugsley:
http://www.surlybikes.com/surlyblog.html (Sept. 28 & 30 entries).

Interesting comments, at least to me, on why it looks as it does:

"In order to get that much tire clearance, we had to use a 100mm wide
bottom bracket shell. But since this created poor chainlines issues, we
offset the rear hub 17.5mm to match up the front and rear chainlines.
The other thing odd about this bike is the matching 135mm spaced offset
fork. This allows you to interchange front and rear wheels for gear
changes on singlespeeds or if your freewheel/freehub froze up. We are
going to make 17.5mm offset adapters for wheelbuilding ease as well."

I like this quote from the above link:
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I know what you're saying: "where is the
motor?" "how much does it weigh?"
"that's the most stoopid thing I've seen
since 3.0 standard headsets". Well, you
are the motor, it weighs .017310 tons,
and it's only stoopid in a good way.

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Check out these pictures of the Surly Pugsley:
http://www.surlybikes.com/surlyblog.html (Sept. 28 & 30 entries).

Interesting comments, at least to me, on why it looks as it does:

"In order to get that much tire clearance, we had to use a 100mm wide
bottom bracket shell. But since this created poor chainlines issues, we
offset the rear hub 17.5mm to match up the front and rear chainlines.
The other thing odd about this bike is the matching 135mm spaced offset
fork. This allows you to interchange front and rear wheels for gear
changes on singlespeeds or if your freewheel/freehub froze up. We are
going to make 17.5mm offset adapters for wheelbuilding ease as well."

Here's a skinny tire roadie version...
http://cheg01.home.comcast.net/diamonback1.jpg

cheg said:

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Quoted message said:

Check out these pictures of the Surly Pugsley:
http://www.surlybikes.com/surlyblog.html (Sept. 28 & 30 entries).

Interesting comments, at least to me, on why it looks as it does:

"In order to get that much tire clearance, we had to use a 100mm wide
bottom bracket shell. But since this created poor chainlines issues, we
offset the rear hub 17.5mm to match up the front and rear chainlines.
The other thing odd about this bike is the matching 135mm spaced offset
fork. This allows you to interchange front and rear wheels for gear
changes on singlespeeds or if your freewheel/freehub froze up. We are
going to make 17.5mm offset adapters for wheelbuilding ease as well."

Here's a skinny tire roadie version...
http://cheg01.home.comcast.net/diamonback1.jpg

I like the additional information about the bike here:

http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/diamondback.html

Is that a fuzzy seat?

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cheg said:

Here's a skinny tire roadie version...
http://cheg01.home.comcast.net/diamonback1.jpg

I like the additional information about the bike here:

http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/diamondback.html

Is that a fuzzy seat?

It's a genuine black sheepskin seat cover, about 15 years old. Getting a little
threadbare in spots.

cheg said:

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cheg said:

Here's a skinny tire roadie version...
http://cheg01.home.comcast.net/diamonback1.jpg

I like the additional information about the bike here:

http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/diamondback.html

Is that a fuzzy seat?

It's a genuine black sheepskin seat cover, about 15 years old. Getting a little
threadbare in spots.

Great chunky looking thing.

Maybe I need to build a monster bike like that for fun.

Ron

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Great chunky looking thing.

Maybe I need to build a monster bike like that for fun.

Ron

It's big fun. Rock steady and faster than it looks. Great traction, obviously. A
good foul weather ride.

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cheg said:

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Great chunky looking thing.

Maybe I need to build a monster bike like that for fun.

Ron

It's big fun. Rock steady and faster than it looks. Great traction, obviously. A
good foul weather ride.

Right now I'm lacking a hop on and run to the store muck-about bike. Some yutz
stole my cheap Raleigh mountain bike off the carport awhile back and now all
I've got is the drop bar go-fast bike with the clipless thing and the attitude
problem.

I've followed Carl's reports on the Mighty Roadmaster with some interest, but
where's the fun in something you can get from a store. Especially since I
couldn't write about it as well as he does. Besides, I'm sure to feel the need
to change things anyway.

Ron

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cheg said:

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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 03:25:19 GMT, "cheg" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Great chunky looking thing.

Maybe I need to build a monster bike like that for fun.

Ron

It's big fun. Rock steady and faster than it looks. Great traction, obviously. A
good foul weather ride.

Right now I'm lacking a hop on and run to the store muck-about bike. Some yutz
stole my cheap Raleigh mountain bike off the carport awhile back and now all
I've got is the drop bar go-fast bike with the clipless thing and the attitude
problem.

I've followed Carl's reports on the Mighty Roadmaster with some interest, but
where's the fun in something you can get from a store. Especially since I
couldn't write about it as well as he does. Besides, I'm sure to feel the need
to change things anyway.

Ron

Dear Ron,

Possibly the gentleman is looking for something at the same
fantastic sub-$60 price, but a bit more upscale, with water
bottle, front suspension, and eighteen gears?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=882808#long_descr

Regrettably for those of us more alive to class distinctions
(Jeeves) or "a bit of a snob" (B. Wooster), all bicycles
come from stores, except for those obtained by bolder
methods from carports.

Carl Fogel

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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:12:31 -0400, Ronsonic <> wrote:

Regrettably for those of us more alive to class distinctions
(Jeeves) or "a bit of a snob" (B. Wooster), all bicycles
come from stores, except for those obtained by bolder
methods from carports.

Carl Fogel

But they don't all come assembled correctly for the owners purpose. Could you to
find this in a store?

http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_2.jpg

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Ronsonic said:

cheg said:

<Ronsonic> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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> Great chunky looking thing.
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> Maybe I need to build a monster bike like that for fun.
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> Ron
>

It's big fun. Rock steady and faster than it looks. Great traction, obviously. A
good foul weather ride.

Right now I'm lacking a hop on and run to the store muck-about bike. Some yutz
stole my cheap Raleigh mountain bike off the carport awhile back and now all
I've got is the drop bar go-fast bike with the clipless thing and the attitude
problem.

I've followed Carl's reports on the Mighty Roadmaster with some interest, but
where's the fun in something you can get from a store. Especially since I
couldn't write about it as well as he does. Besides, I'm sure to feel the need
to change things anyway.

Ron

Dear Ron,

Possibly the gentleman is looking for something at the same
fantastic sub-$60 price, but a bit more upscale, with water
bottle, front suspension, and eighteen gears?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=882808#long_descr

Technological excellence I am sure, but no charisma.

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Regrettably for those of us more alive to class distinctions
(Jeeves) or "a bit of a snob" (B. Wooster), all bicycles
come from stores, except for those obtained by bolder
methods from carports.

You owe me a keyboard.

Ron

cheg said:

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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:12:31 -0400, Ronsonic <> wrote:

Regrettably for those of us more alive to class distinctions
(Jeeves) or "a bit of a snob" (B. Wooster), all bicycles
come from stores, except for those obtained by bolder
methods from carports.

Carl Fogel

But they don't all come assembled correctly for the owners purpose. Could you to
find this in a store?

http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_2.jpg

Dear Cheg,

You're getting closer, but you still have a ways to go:

It's the Krusty the Klown Show. Krusty rides out on a
bicycle, in front of the camera and off to the side. He
rides back on a smaller bike, then a smaller one still, then
a smaller one still, until he's riding a bicycle no more
than six inches tall. He does a loop-the-loop around a metal
track without falling off, then poses triumphantly on one
knee, tossing the bicycle into the air and swallowing it.
The children cheer happily.

Lisa: When Krusty wants to, he can still blow 'em away.

Bart: Yes. He can take a simple, everyday thing like eating
a bicycle and make it funny.

"See you tomorrow, kids!" Krusty laughs, "but before I go,
I'd just like to say --" He opens his mouth and a bicycle
bell rings.

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F12

Carl Fogel

cheg said:

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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:12:31 -0400, Ronsonic <> wrote:

Regrettably for those of us more alive to class distinctions
(Jeeves) or "a bit of a snob" (B. Wooster), all bicycles
come from stores, except for those obtained by bolder
methods from carports.

Carl Fogel

But they don't all come assembled correctly for the owners purpose. Could you to
find this in a store?

http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_2.jpg

Dear Cheg,

You're getting closer, but you still have a ways to go:

It's the Krusty the Klown Show. Krusty rides out on a
bicycle, in front of the camera and off to the side. He
rides back on a smaller bike, then a smaller one still, then
a smaller one still, until he's riding a bicycle no more
than six inches tall. He does a loop-the-loop around a metal
track without falling off, then poses triumphantly on one
knee, tossing the bicycle into the air and swallowing it.
The children cheer happily.

Lisa: When Krusty wants to, he can still blow 'em away.

Bart: Yes. He can take a simple, everyday thing like eating
a bicycle and make it funny.

"See you tomorrow, kids!" Krusty laughs, "but before I go,
I'd just like to say --" He opens his mouth and a bicycle
bell rings.

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F12

Carl Fogel

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Dear Cheg,

You're getting closer, but you still have a ways to go:

It's the Krusty the Klown Show. Krusty rides out on a
bicycle, in front of the camera and off to the side. He
rides back on a smaller bike, then a smaller one still, then
a smaller one still, until he's riding a bicycle no more
than six inches tall. He does a loop-the-loop around a metal
track without falling off, then poses triumphantly on one
knee, tossing the bicycle into the air and swallowing it.
The children cheer happily.

Lisa: When Krusty wants to, he can still blow 'em away.

Bart: Yes. He can take a simple, everyday thing like eating
a bicycle and make it funny.

"See you tomorrow, kids!" Krusty laughs, "but before I go,
I'd just like to say --" He opens his mouth and a bicycle
bell rings.

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F12

Carl Fogel

I'll bet Sideshow Bob customized those bikes, and got none of the credit.

cheg said:

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Dear Cheg,

You're getting closer, but you still have a ways to go:

It's the Krusty the Klown Show. Krusty rides out on a
bicycle, in front of the camera and off to the side. He
rides back on a smaller bike, then a smaller one still, then
a smaller one still, until he's riding a bicycle no more
than six inches tall. He does a loop-the-loop around a metal
track without falling off, then poses triumphantly on one
knee, tossing the bicycle into the air and swallowing it.
The children cheer happily.

Lisa: When Krusty wants to, he can still blow 'em away.

Bart: Yes. He can take a simple, everyday thing like eating
a bicycle and make it funny.

"See you tomorrow, kids!" Krusty laughs, "but before I go,
I'd just like to say --" He opens his mouth and a bicycle
bell rings.

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F12

Carl Fogel

I'll bet Sideshow Bob customized those bikes, and got none of the credit.

Dear Cheg,

I'm sure that you unjustly malign an open-hearted clown! A
little further down on the same page:

Woman: [over intercom] George Carlin on three.

Krusty: [answers it] Yeah?...Lawsuit? Oh, come on. My
"Seven Words You Can't Say on TV" bit was _entirely_
different from _your_ "Seven Words You Can't Say on TV" bit.
....So I'm a thief, am I? Well, excuuuse me! [to his
accountant] Give him ten grand.

Woman: Steve Martin on four.

Krusty: Ten grand.

-- Krusty learns the value of paying people off, "Homer the
Clown"

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F12

Another heart-warming lesson from a morally uplifting
program!

Carl Fogel

cheg said:

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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:12:31 -0400, Ronsonic <> wrote:

Regrettably for those of us more alive to class distinctions
(Jeeves) or "a bit of a snob" (B. Wooster), all bicycles
come from stores, except for those obtained by bolder
methods from carports.

Carl Fogel

But they don't all come assembled correctly for the owners purpose. Could you to
find this in a store?

http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_2.jpg

That is SICK. Cyclo-deviancy at its worst. I'd never be seen riding a perverted
mutation bike like that.

I positively love it that someone else is and that such an imaginative and
idiosyncratic bike exists. I'll bet it surprises the hell out of people, going
way faster than it looks.

Ron

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cheg said:

But they don't all come assembled correctly for the owners purpose. Could you

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

find this in a store?

http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~cheg01/20_light_2.jpg

That is SICK. Cyclo-deviancy at its worst. I'd never be seen riding a

perverted

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mutation bike like that.

I positively love it that someone else is and that such an imaginative and
idiosyncratic bike exists. I'll bet it surprises the hell out of people, going
way faster than it looks.

Ron

Here is the twisted tale, except for the last mutation:

http://cheg01.home.comcast.net/r20.html

The version you saw before is lighter and faster, but has only 6 gears instead
of 18 so it's better suited to traveling to Florida than living in Seattle.