Bikes and Tunnels

Not Responding said:

Where they test the public's reaction candid camera style to bike
thieves by nicking their own.

No reaction to the 'thief' at all -- no surprise really.

Re: Bike thief
Just shows you, nobody gives a [censored] in the USA these days - look after
number one!! I live in hope that something like this would generate a
different response in this country. I certainly wouldn't just casually walk
on by without saying a word, whether it be a bike, car or whatever. Probably
end up with the bolt cutters wrapped around my neck but I still couldn't
just walk on by and ignore it.

George

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Mad cyclist bikes through New York mega tunnel (~1.5 mile long,
carries 33,000,000 vehicles per year both ways) during rush hour.
Videos it all for your consumption.

http://www.thehollandtunnel.com/

Also

http://neistat.com/pages/video_holding/bikethief_holding.htm

Where they test the public's reaction candid camera style to bike
thieves by nicking their own.

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:40:49 +0100, "George Hauxwell"
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Just shows you, nobody gives a [censored] in the USA these days - look after
number one!!

I expect they all fear that the perp will have a gun. Not that this
is in any way an argument for reducing the numbers of guns in
circulation, of course...

Guy
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Re: Bike thief
Just shows you, nobody gives a [censored] in the USA these days - look after
number one!! I live in hope that something like this would generate a
different response in this country. I certainly wouldn't just
casually walk on by without saying a word, whether it be a bike, car
or whatever. Probably end up with the bolt cutters wrapped around my
neck but I still couldn't just walk on by and ignore it.

You suppose that the people 'see' this and think the bike is being
stolen
to be honest if someone brazenly put on safety equipment and pulled
an angle grinder from their back pack I would assume they had every
right to do that and that they were the lawfull owners but had lost the
key to the lock and had 'got' equipment to free their bike.

As a total aside was out cycling with the eldest and he got a
puncture so off with the back wheel, inner tube out, the works,
not one of the half-dozen or so cyclists that passed us offered help,
asked if we were all right or asked if we were missing a necessary
tool. Generally I tend to ask people if they are all right if I see
them
sitting next to their bikes so far they have all been having a snack or
a rest or ... but one of these days someone is going to say "actually
....".

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Mad cyclist bikes through New York mega tunnel (~1.5 mile long,
carries 33,000,000 vehicles per year both ways) during rush hour.
Videos it all for your consumption.

http://www.thehollandtunnel.com/

They want £25 to upgrade my Quicktime to view it so I'll take your word for
it! the tunnel is pretty bad in a motor vehicle from memory. FWIW I have
ridden thru the Blackwall Tunnel 20 yrs ago, actually better than the
Rotherhithe, better ventilated and cars could overtake you.

MartinM said:

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Mad cyclist bikes through New York mega tunnel (~1.5 mile long,
carries 33,000,000 vehicles per year both ways) during rush hour.
Videos it all for your consumption.

http://www.thehollandtunnel.com/

They want £25 to upgrade my Quicktime to view it so I'll take your
word for it! the tunnel is pretty bad in a motor vehicle from memory.
FWIW I have ridden thru the Blackwall Tunnel 20 yrs ago, actually
better than the Rotherhithe, better ventilated and cars could
overtake you.

Google for "quicktime alternative". Much handier than the stupendously slow
quicktime viewer with its nag screens.

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They want £25 to upgrade my Quicktime to view it...

I do not have QT so can't view it (not sure I trust QT or realplayer as they
both put so much c**p on your PC) but I have heard about "quicktime
alternative" which is *supposed* to be better, but not yet tried it.

Adrian Boliston said:

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They want £25 to upgrade my Quicktime to view it...

I do not have QT so can't view it (not sure I trust QT or realplayer
as they both put so much c**p on your PC) but I have heard about
"quicktime alternative" which is *supposed* to be better, but not yet
tried it.

It's a codec, which AFAIK will work with any player you like, and you
handily avoid all the guff from Mac. I'm currently using it with Media
Player Classic (another one to google for).

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It's a codec, which AFAIK will work with any player you like, and you
handily avoid all the guff from Mac. I'm currently using it with Media
Player Classic (another one to google for).

I have long since ditched Windows Media Player in favour of "Media Player
Classic", mainly because the former refused to play my DVD collection, but
I'm not sure how I can get MPC to play the bike tunnel video - I could not
find a link to download the QT file on the page.

Adrian Boliston said:

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It's a codec, which AFAIK will work with any player you like, and you
handily avoid all the guff from Mac. I'm currently using it with
Media Player Classic (another one to google for).

I have long since ditched Windows Media Player in favour of "Media
Player Classic", mainly because the former refused to play my DVD
collection, but I'm not sure how I can get MPC to play the bike
tunnel video - I could not find a link to download the QT file on the
page.

Quicktime alternative shows the video on the webpage via their plugin, and
you can either watch it from there, or save it once it's downloaded and
view it in MPC. I don't think MPC on its own has a QT codec.

Adrian Boliston said:

I could not
find a link to download the QT file on the page.

http://homepage.mac.com/neistatbrothers/movies/hollandtunnel.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/neistatbrothers/movies/bikethiefsmall.mov

If you want the direct links for embedded media you can generally find
them it in the page HTML..

Right click and then select View Source... you'll get a page of text,
have a look through that and you'll generally spot the link you need.
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George Hauxwell said:

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Quoted message said:

http://neistat.com/pages/video_holding/bikethief_holding.htm

Where they test the public's reaction candid camera style to bike
thieves by nicking their own.

Quoted message said:

Re: Bike thief
Just shows you, nobody gives a [censored] in the USA these days...I live in

hope that something like this would generate a

Quoted message said:

different response in this country. I certainly wouldn't just

casually walk

Quoted message said:

on by without saying a word...

I doubt the response would be different in a comparable location. It
is well known that the more people witness an event the less likely an
individual is to react to it (people assume that someone else is
already on the case). Given the chance that either the person removing
the bike is its owner (possible but unlikely), or could react violently
and could have accomplices I would have misgivings about intervening.
I can see how some people /might/ feel it was pointless to call the
police unless they were prepared to attempt to detain the thief
although I would certainly report the theft

best wishes
james

"soup" <[email hidden]> of blueyonder (post doesn't reflect

views of blueyonder) said:

As a total aside was out cycling with the eldest and he got a
puncture so off with the back wheel, inner tube out, the works,
not one of the half-dozen or so cyclists that passed us offered help,
asked if we were all right or asked if we were missing a necessary
tool. Generally I tend to ask people if they are all right if I see
them
sitting next to their bikes so far they have all been having a snack or
a rest or ... but one of these days someone is going to say "actually
...".

I ask people too. Usually gets a double take - a girlie offering mechanical
assistance! The one time someone said yes, I was indeed able to help by
tightening loose handlebars with the Allen key on my Park tool, and the
cyclist was able to carry on home to make a proper repair.
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Just zis Guy said:

I expect they all fear that the perp will have a gun. Not that this
is in any way an argument for reducing the numbers of guns in
circulation, of course...

The cyclist might have one too, of course. Fast Freddy didn't bring his
AK47 to Battle Mountain this year. Just his M16...

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soup said:

Generally I tend to ask people if they are all right if I see
them
sitting next to their bikes so far they have all been having a snack or
a rest or ... but one of these days someone is going to say "actually
....".

I once had a call from DW while I was out muniing asking how to fix a
puncture. She'd been out on her bike, punctured, and didn't have the
strength to remove the tyre for herself. She was on the Bath-Bristol
cyclepath, I told her to start walking the few miles home and someone
would stop to lend a hand.

No-one did. She walked all the way home. She hasn't cycled alone since
:-(

I've managed to help a few people over the years. On one occasion I was
unicycling in a mass bike ride and seemed to be the only person with the
tools to get a young cyclist back on the road.

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Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
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"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

Quoted message said:

Given the chance that either the person removing
the bike is its owner (possible but unlikely), or could react violently
and could have accomplices I would have misgivings about intervening.

I once challenged a teenager in Broadmead who I saw cutting through a
bike lock with a set of boltcutters. He claimed that the bike was his
and he'd borrowed the boltcutters because he'd lost the key to the lock.
Of course, there was no way I could disprove that.

I wish I'd done something to stop him riding off through the
pedestrianised area, though.

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Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
<URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

Danny Colyer said:

Quoted message said:

Given the chance that either the person removing
the bike is its owner (possible but unlikely), or could react violently
and could have accomplices I would have misgivings about intervening.

Quoted message said:

I once challenged a teenager in Broadmead who I saw cutting through a
bike lock with a set of boltcutters. He claimed that the bike was his
and he'd borrowed the boltcutters because he'd lost the key to the lock.
Of course, there was no way I could disprove that.

I have 'stolen' my own bike a couple of times in Amsterdam. First time my
bike was stolen and I came across it near the university, locked with a
flimsy chain. Got out the metal saw and released it. Nobody commented.
Second time my key broke in the lock (one of those disk shaped ones to
close a linked chain) and sat there fumbling with various pliers and picks
for a while. An old man took an interest, not directly accusing me but
sort of 'how are you doing with that' and seemed satisfied when I showed
him the other half of the key. And I have asked a LBS to cut through a
lock, can't remember why, it had got stuck or I had broken/lost the key or
something and he did. Can't remember if he asked for any proof that it was
my bike...

Roos