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  1. Hi all,

    I try to arm signal whenever I can, but I feel at risk doing this while hitting nearly 30mph
    downhill so I keep both hands on the bars. Does anyone else feel the same way? Should I be able to
    handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    --
    Akin

    aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk

  2. "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I try to arm signal whenever I can, but I feel at risk doing this while hitting nearly 30mph
    downhill so I keep both hands on the bars. Does anyone else feel the same way? Should I be able to
    handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    If I'm about to turn I usually slow down a bit before starting to signal if possible.

  3. Sky Fly said:

    I try to arm signal whenever I can, but I feel at risk doing this while hitting nearly 30mph
    downhill so I keep both hands on the bars. Does anyone else feel the same way? Should I be able to
    handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    Yes. but you shouldn't need to give a _long_ signal at that speed. If you do need to, you shouldn't
    be going that fast in the first place.

    ~PB

  4. "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I try to arm signal whenever I can, but I feel at risk doing this while hitting nearly 30mph
    downhill so I keep both hands on the bars. Does anyone else feel the same way? Should I be able to
    handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    --> Akin

    I find this a real problem on my commuting in Sheffield which is very


    hilly. Motorists often get annoyed when I don't signal and so cost them valuable seconds. But it
    is a matter of common sense. I signal when I feel it safe to. On 20% descents when wet it isn't
    always wise.

    Cliff

  5. Sky Fly said:

    Should I be able to handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    Well, I reckon that depends. Whizzing downhill at 40-odd I will often fail to signal on unfamiliar
    roads, but on familiar roads I work out the right points for the brakes, signal, turn and so on.

    For left turns of course it's a non-issue anyway, since the front brake is on the right-hand side,
    but for right turns I normally find that a short signal, brake good and hard, longer signal while
    maintaining speed with gentle application of the rear brake, and then final brake for the turn,
    works OK for most situations. But of course staying on is more important than signalling.

    I do have automated signalling on one bike: "Turning LEFT" and Michael sticks his fist out :-)

    Guy
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  6. Just zis Guy, you know? <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Sky Fly said:

    Should I be able to handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    No...Just indicate with ya foot!

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    Mark
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  7. MSA said:

    No...Just indicate with ya foot!

    I always indicate with my feet: intended direction of travel - forwards!

    Guy
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  8. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    MSA said:

    No...Just indicate with ya foot!

    I always indicate with my feet: intended direction of travel - forwards!

    You mean [censored] first into disaster 🙂

  9. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 12 May 2003 19:48:11 +0100, "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    I do have automated signalling on one bike: "Turning LEFT" and Michael sticks his fist out :-)

    Am I correct in saying that this is your child strapped to a child seat at the back of your bike?

    If so, you have my MAXIMUM respect here. I feel uncomfortable enough riding my bike when I have a
    load of heavy shopping at the back - it's like my steering is harder to control. But I would feel
    *extremely* nervous about riding with a potentially restive child at the back with the same steering
    problems - I don't mind taking a fall on my bike now and then, but I would feel very bad if the
    child at the back had to.

    --
    Akin

    aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk

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    Guy
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  10. I have the same problem when doing 30 mph + down the Portsdown hill road and hanging a left halfway
    down. It's not very often that someone is waiting to exit this road so I only signal when this is
    the case and slow right down in the process, but when doing those sorts of speeds I like to have
    both hands on otherwise I don't feel in total control. "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I try to arm signal whenever I can, but I feel at risk doing this while hitting nearly 30mph
    downhill so I keep both hands on the bars. Does anyone else feel the same way? Should I be able to
    handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    --
    Akin

    aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk

  11. Adrian Boliston said:

    If I'm about to turn I usually slow down a bit before starting to signal if possible.

    The highway code suggests signaling before manoeuvering - which includes slowing down - is the
    correct order. Look - signal - manoeuver.

    London bus drivers, on the other hand, think that the correct order is manoeuver, signal, look!
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  12. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Sky Fly said:

    Should I be able to handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    Well, I reckon that depends. Whizzing downhill at 40-odd I will often fail to signal on unfamiliar
    roads, but on familiar roads I work out the right points for the brakes, signal, turn and so on.

    For left turns of course it's a non-issue anyway, since the front brake is on the right-hand side,
    but for right turns I normally find that a short signal, brake good and hard, longer signal while
    maintaining speed with gentle application of the rear brake, and then final brake for the turn,
    works OK for most situations. But of course staying on is more important than signalling.

    right turns sound a bit ropey! Simply have the front brake on the left...makes more sense.

    mp MK

  13. "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I try to arm signal whenever I can, but I feel at risk doing this while hitting nearly 30mph
    downhill so I keep both hands on the bars. Does anyone else feel the same way? Should I be able to
    handle the bike with just one hand going downhill?

    Steering the bike should not be the issue. It's letting go of the brakes for long enough to give a
    meaningful signal that can be problematic.

    --
    Dave...

  14. "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I do have automated signalling on one bike: "Turning LEFT" and Michael sticks his fist out :-)

    Am I correct in saying that this is your child strapped to a child seat at the back of your bike?

    Guy doesn't give free rides. Michael is expected to contribute to the pedalling.

    --
    Dave...

  15. In "]news:[email hidden], Gonzalez <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:


    London bus drivers, on the other hand, think that the correct order is manoeuver, signal, look!

    I thought it was manoeuver, signal, whoops

    Tony ;-)

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    Finally, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer

  16. "Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The highway code suggests signaling before manoeuvering - which includes slowing down.....

    Should I flap my arm up and down each time I slow down (as shown in hway code)?

  17. Adrian Boliston said:

    "Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The highway code suggests signaling before manoeuvering - which includes slowing down.....

    Should I flap my arm up and down each time I slow down (as shown in hway code)?

    Do it with both arms then you'll fly over the b*st*rd who pulls out.

    FWIW in my cycle training I am to instruct young riders to raise and lower their right arms
    three times.

    John B

  18. "Adrian Boliston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The highway code suggests signaling before manoeuvering - which includes slowing down.....

    Should I flap my arm up and down each time I slow down (as shown in hway


    code)?

    No -- the approved method is to shout 'Stopping'. At least it works with cyclists 🙁

  19. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In "]news:[email hidden], Gonzalez <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:


    London bus drivers, on the other hand, think that the correct order is manoeuver, signal, look!

    I thought it was manoeuver, signal, whoops

    Tony ;-)

    While cabbies the world over use Manoeuvre, Shout Abuse.

    T

  20. Gonzalez said:
    Adrian Boliston said:

    If I'm about to turn I usually slow down a bit before starting to signal if possible.


    The highway code suggests signaling before manoeuvering - which includes slowing down - is the
    correct order.

    But this is not written with cyclists in mind, who need both hands on the bars to brake most
    effectively.
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    David Damerell <[email hidden]> Distortion Field!

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