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  1. Today my seven-year-olds and I cycled from home to Castell Coch, a nice
    30 km ride up the Taff Trail and back. Not bad for a pair of small boys.

    When on the roads we had very little to worry about from drivers. Most
    of them went out of their way to give us plenty of room, and made it
    clear that they were giving us time and space to do whatever it was we
    had to do. Until, 200m from home, two drivers in succession made a
    nuisance of themselves, on the same road - one gave every appearance of
    intending to occupy the same space on the road as we were, and the
    second insisted on overtaking in a tight spot.

    I don't think there was any aggression or even impatience there, just a
    complete unawareness of what a car looks like to a cyclist, especially a
    cyclist whose children are wobbling along just behind him.

    I had words with both drivers, one conversation of which ended in a
    useless verbal confrontation. I don't think I did much good with that,
    just succeeded in making the pair of us angry and upset. It was a shame,
    because it marred what had otherwise been a really nice trip.

    Daniele
    --
    Apple Juice Ltd
    Chapter Arts Centre
    Market Road www.apple-juice.co.uk
    Cardiff CF5 1QE 029 2019 0140

  2. D.M. Procida said:

    Today my seven-year-olds and I cycled from home to Castell Coch, a nice
    30 km ride up the Taff Trail and back. Not bad for a pair of small boys.

    Nice ride, although I've only ever approached the castle from the
    north. How steep is the approach to the castle from Tongwynlais?

    --
    Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
    "Our National Emergency Plan simply calls for lots of middle-aged women
    to stand around in Post Office queues saying "Well, I said it'd happen"
    until we all starve to death" - Mil Millington

  3. On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:58:46 +0100,

    (D.M. Procida) said:

    I had words with both drivers, one conversation of which ended in a
    useless verbal confrontation. I don't think I did much good with that,
    just succeeded in making the pair of us angry and upset. It was a shame,
    because it marred what had otherwise been a really nice trip.

    Daniele

    What a shame .......... I had the usual yesterday when I was in town
    ...... lets beat the cyclist to the juction, give the cyclist 10mm of
    room, that usual sort of thing.

    I had a wonderful thought on the way home though.................
    COMPULSORY town cycle riding in the driving test ............ as well
    as crossing the road slowly (elderly) with a white stick and red bands
    (blind and deaf) and also in a run in a wheelchair ............... ALL
    compulsory ...............

    No chance ............... Even realistic driving is not taught
    properly ..............

    I live in Linconlshire where you have to mutiply the driver idiot
    factor by 20 ...................... that is why over 100 die on Lincs
    roads every year ............ pathetic

    Even more stunning, I put this question to a driving instructor
    acquaintance "why do I NEVER see people, including learner drivers
    under instruction INDICATE when overtaking a cyclist" Answer: Not
    really need unless a drastic change of direction is needed (by the
    car) and why should I waste my indicator bulbs to indicate every 20
    seconds ........ (this was an actual answer)

    Shocked I answered to let the vehicle behind you be aware of a
    possibly vunerable cyclist (as in the original poster children) on the
    left.................... and walked away.

    Bloody idiot !!!!!

  4. Keith Willoughby said:
    D.M. Procida said:

    Today my seven-year-olds and I cycled from home to Castell Coch, a nice
    30 km ride up the Taff Trail and back. Not bad for a pair of small boys.

    Nice ride, although I've only ever approached the castle from the
    north. How steep is the approach to the castle from Tongwynlais?

    Not too bad, but hard work for small legs. Once inside the castle
    grounds we had to push the bikes up the hill - it was just much too
    steep for them. I don't know if I could have managed it all the way
    myself.

    Daniele
    --
    Apple Juice Ltd
    Chapter Arts Centre
    Market Road www.apple-juice.co.uk
    Cardiff CF5 1QE 029 2019 0140

  5. D.M. Procida said:
    Keith Willoughby said:
    D.M. Procida said:

    Today my seven-year-olds and I cycled from home to Castell Coch, a nice
    30 km ride up the Taff Trail and back. Not bad for a pair of small boys.

    Nice ride, although I've only ever approached the castle from the
    north. How steep is the approach to the castle from Tongwynlais?

    Not too bad, but hard work for small legs. Once inside the castle
    grounds we had to push the bikes up the hill - it was just much too
    steep for them. I don't know if I could have managed it all the way
    myself.

    Yeah, I've seen the hill up to the castle (from the top 🙂) and it's a
    nasty one. That's why I've never really fancied taking the high-level
    route back up the valley.

    --
    Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
    "You're going on after Crispy Ambulance"

  6. Jack Ouzzi said:

    I had a wonderful thought on the way home though.................
    COMPULSORY town cycle riding in the driving test ............

    If I ruled the world:
    <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/misc/ifiruled.html>

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
    <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

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