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Orthotics, clipless pedals, etc.

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  1. Just a thanks to all those who offered an opinion on switching to clipless
    pedals to help with foot/ankle/knee pain while biking.

    After reading all the opinions and doing lots of research, I made an
    appointment for custom orthotics and ordered some Speedplay Frogs (stainless
    with 1/2" longer spindle to fit my shoe). The Frogs finally came in, and I
    got to do a 25 mile ride with them yesterday. Wow! I'm in love! Not only did
    my ankles and knees not have pain, they actually felt really *good* after my
    ride.

    I had the appointment for fitting the orthotics this morning, and the
    doctor, who rides a diamond frame, is a big fan of the Frogs and recommends
    them a lot. He thinks between the Frogs and the orthotics, I'll have no more
    pain problems. I'm in heaven. 🙂

    So, thanks again to all who offered an opinion.

    --
    Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)

  2. "Kathy Applebaum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just a thanks to all those who offered an opinion on switching to clipless
    pedals to help with foot/ankle/knee pain while biking.

    After reading all the opinions and doing lots of research, I made an
    appointment for custom orthotics and ordered some Speedplay Frogs
    (stainless
    with 1/2" longer spindle to fit my shoe). The Frogs finally came in, and I
    got to do a 25 mile ride with them yesterday. Wow! I'm in love! Not only
    did
    my ankles and knees not have pain, they actually felt really *good* after
    my
    ride.

    I had the appointment for fitting the orthotics this morning, and the
    doctor, who rides a diamond frame, is a big fan of the Frogs and
    recommends
    them a lot. He thinks between the Frogs and the orthotics, I'll have no
    more
    pain problems. I'm in heaven. 🙂

    So, thanks again to all who offered an opinion.
    --
    Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)

    Great! Glad it worked out, and that we could help. Speedplay Frogs have tons
    of float, and are easy to clip in and out. They are one of only a handful of
    truly knee-friendly clipless pedals out there.

    However, I might caution you to notice how the Frog cleats attach to the
    pedal. Notice that there is just a tiny metal clip that your feet are
    basically hanging from. That clip is tensioned by a thin piece of polymer
    material - a tiny plastic spring. I personally had problems with one cleat
    on my Frogs where the polymer "spring" became damaged, and the cleat wanted
    to unclip sometimes. After some scary incidents, I ditched the Frogs,
    bought BeBops, and haven't had a single problem since. Same huge float, much
    better cleat retention, more solid all-metal design, and even easier
    clip-in. Like Speedplay, BeBops a little pricey; but worth it. (FWIW: The
    two companies actually share patent agreements on the pedal and cleat
    designs.)

    You do not want to have an unscheduled clip-out and drop your foot to the
    ground while riding. It's very painful, and will most likely result in a
    nasty crash. My wife required over a year to finally heal from her
    foot-drop-related crash. The bike launched her about 10 ft. Ouch!

    Sorry for the FUD. Just check your cleats often, and be aware of the weak
    points in the Frog design. Many people swear by them, so they must be OK.

    Miles of smiles,

    SDB

  3. "Shrubs Don't Bounce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:Bwy2d.105416$3l3.102427@attbi_s03...

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry for the FUD. Just check your cleats often, and be aware of the weak
    points in the Frog design. Many people swear by them, so they must be OK.

    Actually, it's probably a good reminder to check ALL my equipment regularly.
    I like crashes almost as much as I like walking home. 🙂

    --
    Kathy A. (Woodland, CA)

  4. "Kathy Applebaum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Just a thanks to all those who offered an opinion on switching to clipless
    pedals to help with foot/ankle/knee pain while biking.

    After reading all the opinions and doing lots of research, I made an
    appointment for custom orthotics and ordered some Speedplay Frogs (stainless
    with 1/2" longer spindle to fit my shoe). The Frogs finally came in, and I
    got to do a 25 mile ride with them yesterday. Wow! I'm in love! Not only did
    my ankles and knees not have pain, they actually felt really *good* after my
    ride.

    I had the appointment for fitting the orthotics this morning, and the
    doctor, who rides a diamond frame, is a big fan of the Frogs and recommends
    them a lot. He thinks between the Frogs and the orthotics, I'll have no more
    pain problems. I'm in heaven. 🙂

    So, thanks again to all who offered an opinion.

    I also wear orthotics in my street shoes and had been using Frogs on
    my Stratus, loved the float but was having problems with hotfoot on
    longer rides (over 30 miles) caused by the Frogs too small contact
    area on the ball of my foot.

    This year, at the advice of my podiatrist, I switched to a wider based
    pedal, the Shimano DuraAce spd pedal (forget which model #), and my
    hotfoot problems completely disappeared. This pedal , while not having
    quite the amount of float of the Frogs, still has approx. 20 deg. of
    float, enough to keep my knees happy. Since then, I have been on a few
    centuries without any problems with either knees or feet.

    Denis Rivest
    RANS Stratus.

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