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  1. been watching this ng for a few weeks off n on. i'd like to watch it more
    frequently but RL invades quite alot. seems to have very knowledgeable n
    goodly peeps in here.

    Anyway, i'm wondering how ya all lock up your trikes. i'm currently on a
    greenspeed GTC 16/16. looking at the bike i'm thinking the best way to lock
    the bike is using a chain type lock for the frame and two wire type locks
    for the front and rear wheels. the wheels being mass easy to remove due to
    the wheels only having one bolt holding them onto the drum breaks. (the way
    a truck wheel fits over drum breaks, but only 1 bolt instead of 5.) so the
    wheels have got to be locked to the frame. i don't want to remove the wheels
    because then the break pads are resting on the ground and i don't want to
    carry three wheels. (rear wheel does not have a break but holds two gear
    boxes, one internal and one external and i don't want to carry it either.)

    the wheel cable locks aren't really an issue, i've kinda already desided on
    the ones i'll purchase. however the frame lock is in question. i've looked
    at the kryptonites they have out on the market and they look promicing
    except on the weight. i don't think a U lock is going to work on this type
    of bike due to not having a frame that has a triangle in which to thread the
    U through, (does that make sense?) there are triangles on the frame but they
    are so far into the inside of the bike that i don't think a U lock will
    work... a GS has just all kinds of sticky-outty parts all over it and none
    of then can you use to lock it up w/. but the NY chain lock weighs in at
    over 6 pounds and then there is the question of will it'll be long enough?

    so those of you that know what i'm discribing here, or those that have a
    greenspeed, how do you over come this tiny little delema? buy a 6 pound lock
    that might not reach? pay 160 for two and carry 12 pounds??? (oh please
    don't say that's what i'll end up doing. i'm already vertically challenged n
    don't need to add to the problem.)

    thank ya kindly folks for any help.

    cheers
    kat

  2. Vixen2yall said:

    so those of you that know what i'm discribing here, or those that have a
    greenspeed, how do you over come this tiny little delema? buy a 6 pound lock
    that might not reach? pay 160 for two and carry 12 pounds??? (oh please
    don't say that's what i'll end up doing. i'm already vertically challenged n
    don't need to add to the problem.)

    Personally, have a heavy lock at each end of my normal journey (I
    commute to work on a trike), then carry a cable lock in my pannier and
    never let the trike out of my sight if I go anywhere else. If I go
    somehwere that's not feasible, I take a more 'normal' bike.

    Regarding locking up, I'm not sure of teh layout of your trike, but on
    my trice a U-lock fits around the main cross in the frame. That is,
    the frame has teh main forward/backward tube, and then a cross tube
    with the front wheels at each end. The cross-over point is just in
    front of the seat, so you can position the trike against a vertical
    pole with teh pole in that corner - so now there are three mutually
    perpendicular tubes, and a relatively short D-lock (I use a heavy
    Abus) will fit round all three tubes.

    At work, where the trike lives within sight of the passing general
    public all day, I also use another D-lock through the rear triangle
    and back wheel. I don't bother about the front wheels, but I figure
    there's practically no demand for 20" wheels on asymmetric disk hubs,
    and most people won't know the knack of getting a trice wheel off so
    will struggle to do so anyway. It helps my peace-of-mind as well to
    know that it's locked up alongside half-a-dozen other bikes, one or
    two of which are decent mountain bikes that are a lot more nickable
    and sellable (and no better locked).

    regards, Ian SMith
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  3. "Ian Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Vixen2yall said:

    so those of you that know what i'm discribing here, or those that have


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    greenspeed, how do you over come this tiny little delema? buy a 6 pound


    lock

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that might not reach? pay 160 for two and carry 12 pounds??? (oh please
    don't say that's what i'll end up doing. i'm already vertically


    challenged n

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    don't need to add to the problem.)

    Personally, have a heavy lock at each end of my normal journey (I
    commute to work on a trike), then carry a cable lock in my pannier and
    never let the trike out of my sight if I go anywhere else. If I go
    somehwere that's not feasible, I take a more 'normal' bike.

    thanks for your posty, i'm going to have to figure something out for her but
    whatever i do figure out i'll have to carry as i don't have an end
    destination in which to store another lock. might just have to deal w/ the
    extra weight which really isn't all that much of a concern for me.

    and unfortunetly this is the only bike i have with me at the moment. so i
    gotta think of something.

    Quoted message said:

    Regarding locking up, I'm not sure of teh layout of your trike, but on
    my trice a U-lock fits around the main cross in the frame. That is,
    the frame has teh main forward/backward tube, and then a cross tube
    with the front wheels at each end. The cross-over point is just in
    front of the seat, so you can position the trike against a vertical
    pole with teh pole in that corner - so now there are three mutually
    perpendicular tubes, and a relatively short D-lock (I use a heavy
    Abus) will fit round all three tubes.

    yeah that sounds like it might work. i'll have to look at her underside
    though as i also have an S&S coupling in the frame. don't want that to be
    unhitched and have the lock just slide off.

    Quoted message said:


    At work, where the trike lives within sight of the passing general
    public all day, I also use another D-lock through the rear triangle
    and back wheel. I don't bother about the front wheels, but I figure
    there's practically no demand for 20" wheels on asymmetric disk hubs,
    and most people won't know the knack of getting a trice wheel off so
    will struggle to do so anyway. It helps my peace-of-mind as well to
    know that it's locked up alongside half-a-dozen other bikes, one or
    two of which are decent mountain bikes that are a lot more nickable
    and sellable (and no better locked).

    regards, Ian SMith
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    thanks for the post again, i think what i may end up doing is just taking
    the bike into a LBS and see if the shop keeper can help me w/ some form of
    setup. i spent way too much money on her to loose her from just going to the
    store. she'll look rediculus w/ all kinds of wires hanging all over her but
    i don't want to loose her.

    cheers
    kat

  4. Vixen2yall said:

    so those of you that know what i'm discribing here, or those that have a
    greenspeed, how do you over come this tiny little delema? buy a 6 pound lock
    that might not reach? pay 160 for two and carry 12 pounds??? (oh please
    don't say that's what i'll end up doing. i'm already vertically challenged n
    don't need to add to the problem.)

    thank ya kindly folks for any help.

    I made a device.
    go to a hardware store and ask for wire rope.
    get @ 10 ft. or 3+ meters of a small type, 1/4 in ?
    get 'ferrules' that crimp on to the rope ends
    put a loop on each end of the rope.
    any lock can be used to secure the end
    loops after it is threaded through
    the trike.
    You can also get a Large BBQ cover for it.
    Cheap and lite.

    bil

  5. "bil e goat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:zI92d.40589$9Y5.10426@fed1read02...

    Quoted message said:
    Vixen2yall said:

    so those of you that know what i'm discribing here, or those that have a
    greenspeed, how do you over come this tiny little delema? buy a 6 pound


    lock

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that might not reach? pay 160 for two and carry 12 pounds??? (oh please
    don't say that's what i'll end up doing. i'm already vertically


    challenged n

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    don't need to add to the problem.)

    thank ya kindly folks for any help.

    I made a device.
    go to a hardware store and ask for wire rope.
    get @ 10 ft. or 3+ meters of a small type, 1/4 in ?
    get 'ferrules' that crimp on to the rope ends
    put a loop on each end of the rope.
    any lock can be used to secure the end
    loops after it is threaded through
    the trike.
    You can also get a Large BBQ cover for it.
    Cheap and lite.

    bil

    BBQ cover, BBQ cover... scuse me for stupidity but... what's the BBQ cover
    for? heh i just can't seem to see why i would need a BBQ cover.

    cheers n thanks for the ideas
    kat

  6. Vixen2yall said:

    BBQ cover, BBQ cover... scuse me for stupidity but... what's the BBQ cover
    for? heh i just can't seem to see why i would need a BBQ cover.

    A barbecue cover can be used to cover your trike
    the tires and seats don't like sunlight and it's
    one more thing to slow a thief down, eh?

    I keep my Trice XL in the garage.
    But b4 I moved here I had to store it outside.
    The cover came in handy and collected a LOT
    of dust.
    My wife says it came from 'Barbecues Galore'
    in Sunnyvale Ca. US of A

    bil

  7. "bil e goat" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I made a device.
    go to a hardware store and ask for wire rope.
    get @ 10 ft. or 3+ meters of a small type, 1/4 in ?

    So the would-be thief goes to the hardware store
    and buys the tool they used to cut your cable
    to length! %^)

    Actually, cables designed for securing equipment
    are available with loops already attached. Some
    cables have a braided exterior sheath that makes
    them somewhat more resistant to cutting. I use
    a cable with integrated combination lock as the
    keep-honest-people-honest lock for my bike...
    These sell for US$15 and up.

    Jon Meinecke

  8. "bil stil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:shu2d.42067$9Y5.20535@fed1read02...

    Quoted message said:


    Vixen2yall said:

    BBQ cover, BBQ cover... scuse me for stupidity but... what's the BBQ


    cover

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for? heh i just can't seem to see why i would need a BBQ cover.

    A barbecue cover can be used to cover your trike
    the tires and seats don't like sunlight and it's
    one more thing to slow a thief down, eh?

    I keep my Trice XL in the garage.
    But b4 I moved here I had to store it outside.
    The cover came in handy and collected a LOT
    of dust.
    My wife says it came from 'Barbecues Galore'
    in Sunnyvale Ca. US of A

    bil

    OHHHHHH ok i get it... i keep sheila in the garage so i won't need to do
    that but thanks for the idea. (yes i name my bikes)

    cheers
    kat

  9. Vixen2yall said:

    OHHHHHH ok i get it... i keep sheila in the garage so i won't need to do
    that but thanks for the idea. (yes i name my bikes)

    cheers
    kat

    I call mine names too...
    @#$%^& *()_

  10. Jon Meinecke said:

    So the would-be thief goes to the hardware store
    and buys the tool they used to cut your cable
    to length! %^)

    Too true, thus the suggestion of a cover.

    Quoted message said:

    Actually, cables designed for securing equipment
    are available with loops already attached. Some
    cables have a braided exterior sheath that makes
    them somewhat more resistant to cutting. I use
    a cable with integrated combination lock as the
    keep-honest-people-honest lock for my bike...
    These sell for US$15 and up.

    Yes.
    I have those too, and they are VERY heavy.
    I do like the ones w/ sheathing, formidable.
    Get an attack trained doggy and tell it to
    guard your trike. Now that's formidable.

    bil

  11. I also use no-cost methods of possibly discouraging casual theft of my
    trike. When I park it, I shift the barends so that if someone starts
    pedalling the chain will try to shift to front big ring, rear little
    ring immediately. I also use the Hope (hydraulic) adjusters to "lock"
    the brakes. When I was riding a two-wheeler I would also release the
    quick-release skewer on the front wheel. I'm currently using just a
    heavy cable-lock/keyset when I camp with the idea that a trike would
    attract a lot of attention to the thief.

    BentJay

    See my tour journal at: http://aroundthelake.crazyguyonabike.com

  12. Quoted message said:

    I'm currently using just a heavy cable-lock/keyset
    when I camp with the idea that a trike would
    attract a lot of attention to the thief.

    I'd like to see someone design an integral lock as part of the frame. This
    could be similar to the lock on my cousin's old motor scooter back in the
    60's. The engine would start with a turn of the button and a kick to the
    starter pedal but the front fork was locked to a full right turn. There was
    a simple cam that was pushed down to lock the fork. A key was turned to pop
    it up and release the fork.

    This wouldn't stop someone from hefting the bike onto a pickup truck and
    hauling it away but it would impede the casual thief who walks up and hops
    on your 'bent. Total added weight should be less than a pound.

    Any thoughts from frame builders here?

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

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    Bass Home Electronics
    2291 Pine View Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34231
    877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>

  13. "Robert L. Bass" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm currently using just a heavy cable-lock/keyset
    when I camp with the idea that a trike would
    attract a lot of attention to the thief.

    I'd like to see someone design an integral lock as part of the frame.


    This

    Quoted message said:

    could be similar to the lock on my cousin's old motor scooter back in the
    60's. The engine would start with a turn of the button and a kick to the
    starter pedal but the front fork was locked to a full right turn. There


    was

    Quoted message said:

    a simple cam that was pushed down to lock the fork. A key was turned to


    pop

    Quoted message said:

    it up and release the fork.

    This wouldn't stop someone from hefting the bike onto a pickup truck and
    hauling it away but it would impede the casual thief who walks up and hops
    on your 'bent. Total added weight should be less than a pound.

    Any thoughts from frame builders here?

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    2291 Pine View Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34231
    877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>

    that would be cool. on the GS they have a hole drilled for the headlight
    clamp that i'm not using and could use that as a locking point but because i
    have a boom crank, it wouldn't help out all that much cause you can just
    lift the cranks out w/ an alen wrench and some wiggling. would be nice to
    have something built to the fram though

    cheers
    kat

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