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  1. You know who I mean - UPS

    After years of seeing them arrive just after lunch time they shuffled the
    map.

    Now my shop is on the tail end of a run. Every day this week they have been
    showing up after 6 pm.

    I close at 6 pm.

    Tracked packages that customers are waiting for don't arrive during the day.
    Waiting for me the next morning is a post-it saying they'll try again the
    next day.

    6 pm rolls around - nobody. I'm forced to sit and wait for them to arrive.
    I tell the driver this is unsatisfactory. She tells me there is nothing she
    can do.

    I'm calling their managers tomorrow. Almost every business in my corridor
    closes at 5 or 6. In the past it was their rule that stuff would be
    delivered before 5 pm to businesses.

    I almost lost two large sales over this. On top of that I had to wait until
    Wednesday to install my new Next LP crank.

    Grrrrrr.

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  2. Quoted message said:

    I almost lost two large sales over this. On top of that I had to
    wait until Wednesday to install my new Next LP crank.

    Good luck. ScrewPS sucks. The USPS is FAR better, cheaper, timely and
    deliver on Saturdays for free.

    I am in a residential area; deliveries from them are usually in the 7:00 -
    8:00 PM range without fail. Much discussions with them proved fruitless. I
    have yet to get a package from them which wasn't at least ripped either.
    Fedex, although expensive, has never shown up after 1:00PM.

  3. Ground Control said:

    You know who I mean - UPS

    After years of seeing them arrive just after lunch time they shuffled the
    map.

    Now my shop is on the tail end of a run. Every day this week they have
    been
    showing up after 6 pm.

    I close at 6 pm.

    Tracked packages that customers are waiting for don't arrive during the
    day.
    Waiting for me the next morning is a post-it saying they'll try again the
    next day.

    6 pm rolls around - nobody. I'm forced to sit and wait for them to
    arrive.
    I tell the driver this is unsatisfactory. She tells me there is nothing
    she
    can do.

    I'm calling their managers tomorrow.

    Do it! We had to do the same thing at my work. We moved into a brand new
    warehouse development and we were one of the only businesses in that area
    for awhile. UPS said that's why they put us on the end of the day
    schedule. We told them they better start delivering well before lunch or
    we'll compel our vendors not to use UPS for shipments to us, and we will
    drastically lower our daily shipments thru them. They changed real fast.

    They can't afford to be pulling [censored] like that nowadays... they're no
    longer the only game in town.

    We now usually get a truck around 9:30am and another one later in the
    morning or early afternoon :-)

    Talk to your UPS business rep/sup.
    --
    Slacker

  4. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:opsegc3xuom83lxu@slacker...

    Ground Control said:

    You know who I mean - UPS

    After years of seeing them arrive just after lunch time they shuffled the
    map.

    Now my shop is on the tail end of a run. Every day this week they have
    been
    showing up after 6 pm.

    I close at 6 pm.

    Tracked packages that customers are waiting for don't arrive during the
    day.
    Waiting for me the next morning is a post-it saying they'll try again the
    next day.

    6 pm rolls around - nobody. I'm forced to sit and wait for them to
    arrive.
    I tell the driver this is unsatisfactory. She tells me there is nothing
    she
    can do.

    I'm calling their managers tomorrow.

    Do it! We had to do the same thing at my work. We moved into a brand new
    warehouse development and we were one of the only businesses in that area
    for awhile. UPS said that's why they put us on the end of the day
    schedule. We told them they better start delivering well before lunch or
    we'll compel our vendors not to use UPS for shipments to us, and we will
    drastically lower our daily shipments thru them. They changed real fast.

    They can't afford to be pulling [censored] like that nowadays... they're no
    longer the only game in town.

    We now usually get a truck around 9:30am and another one later in the
    morning or early afternoon :-)

    Talk to your UPS business rep/sup.
    --
    Slacker

    Oh, I plan on it. I used to manage grocery stores and we had a vendor
    cut-off of 1 pm and by God they lived up to that agreement or they lost a
    delivery that day (general freight trucks were excluded from the policy)
    It's hard to serve customers and have inventory when we don't even know when
    it is being delivered.

    ---
    __o
    _`\(,_ Cycling is life,
    (_)/ (_) all the rest, just details.
    The Nelson Paradigm =^o.o^=
    http://intergalax.com
    http://intbike.com
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  5. "John Harlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I almost lost two large sales over this. On top of that I had to
    wait until Wednesday to install my new Next LP crank.

    Good luck. ScrewPS sucks. The USPS is FAR better,

    For that matter so is Fed-Ex. Every time I have something delivered [censored]
    up by UPS I tell the supplier that I will probably not order from them again
    if they only ship via Ooops.

    In my area the nearest UPS depot is over 15 miles away in [censored] traffic.
    Every place I've lived around here the nearest Fed-Ex depot has been within
    a mile and they let you pick things up same day if you missed the driver.

    I'll choose USPS or Fed-Ex any day.

    Greg

  6. "John Harlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    |
    | > I almost lost two large sales over this. On top of that I had to
    | > wait until Wednesday to install my new Next LP crank.
    |
    | Good luck. ScrewPS sucks. The USPS is FAR better, cheaper, timely and
    | deliver on Saturdays for free.
    |
    | I am in a residential area; deliveries from them are usually in the 7:00 -
    | 8:00 PM range without fail. Much discussions with them proved fruitless.
    I
    | have yet to get a package from them which wasn't at least ripped either.
    | Fedex, although expensive, has never shown up after 1:00PM.
    |
    |

    FedEx would be fine, but USPS is only good for small packages. Personally,
    I have always like UPS's service up until this week. From my perspective it
    has all gone straight to hell this week. Their package tracking has
    seemingly gone utterly off-line. A personal package (eBay 'winnings'😉 was
    scheduled for today but went off their radar on the 10th (they did bring it
    today!)

    There is one other issue I have with them. If I were to order a small item
    from the west coast (I'm on the East Coast) it generally takes a full week
    to get here via UPS. If I were to pay about the same amount to for USPS
    shipping, I've got the package in 2-3 days for the most part. However, if I
    order from SC (I'm in NC) via UPS, I generally get stuff the next day. It's
    all situational.

    Now, on another note, I don't know exactly what service Amazon.com uses, but
    a DVD I ordered from them took 8 days to get from Deleware to here. Not
    only that, it stopped in Greensboro, came THROUGH Charlotte, got sorted in
    Atlanta and took two more days getting BACK to Charlotte. Go figure.

    ---
    __o
    _`\(,_ Cycling is life,
    (_)/ (_) all the rest, just details.
    The Nelson Paradigm =^o.o^=
    http://intergalax.com
    http://intbike.com
    Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
    Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 9/11/2004

  7. "Ground Control" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You know who I mean - UPS

    After years of seeing them arrive just after lunch time they shuffled the
    map.

    Now my shop is on the tail end of a run. Every day this week they have


    been

    Quoted message said:

    showing up after 6 pm.

    I close at 6 pm.

    Tracked packages that customers are waiting for don't arrive during the


    day.

    Quoted message said:

    Waiting for me the next morning is a post-it saying they'll try again the
    next day.

    6 pm rolls around - nobody. I'm forced to sit and wait for them to


    arrive.

    Quoted message said:

    I tell the driver this is unsatisfactory. She tells me there is nothing


    she

    Quoted message said:

    can do.

    I'm calling their managers tomorrow. Almost every business in my corridor
    closes at 5 or 6. In the past it was their rule that stuff would be
    delivered before 5 pm to businesses.

    I almost lost two large sales over this. On top of that I had to wait


    until

    Quoted message said:

    Wednesday to install my new Next LP crank.

    Grrrrrr.

    FedEx Ground

    DHL Domestic

    When one service doesn't meet your needs, try another. I can tell you from
    experience that FedEx Ground is faster and cheaper than UPS Ground.

  8. Ground Control said:

    "John Harlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    |
    | > I almost lost two large sales over this. On top of that I had to
    | > wait until Wednesday to install my new Next LP crank.
    |
    | Good luck. ScrewPS sucks. The USPS is FAR better, cheaper, timely and
    | deliver on Saturdays for free.
    |
    | I am in a residential area; deliveries from them are usually in the 7:00 -
    | 8:00 PM range without fail. Much discussions with them proved fruitless.
    I
    | have yet to get a package from them which wasn't at least ripped either.
    | Fedex, although expensive, has never shown up after 1:00PM.
    |
    |

    FedEx would be fine, but USPS is only good for small packages. Personally,
    I have always like UPS's service up until this week. From my perspective it
    has all gone straight to hell this week. Their package tracking has
    seemingly gone utterly off-line. A personal package (eBay 'winnings'😉 was
    scheduled for today but went off their radar on the 10th (they did bring it
    today!)

    FEDex is the way to go! Cheaper, faster, and more reliable.

    Quoted message said:

    Now, on another note, I don't know exactly what service Amazon.com uses, but
    a DVD I ordered from them took 8 days to get from Deleware to here. Not
    only that, it stopped in Greensboro, came THROUGH Charlotte, got sorted in
    Atlanta and took two more days getting BACK to Charlotte. Go figure.

    Amazon has Warehouses all over the U.S. If they don't have it in the
    local warehouse, they'll ship from another location which causes the
    delay. Generally, I've gotten Amazon purchases within two days because
    they have a warehouse in PA.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  9. sittingduck said:
    Ground Control said:

    You know who I mean - UPS

    That's why I use FedEx.

    I've always preferred fedex ground, it's faster and about 30-50% less than
    the UNTIED parcel service.
    For the most part, they seem to do less bonehead stuff with packages too.
    but...

    they all have their problems. It's just a matter of when, and how they
    respond. I recently shipped a customized backpack to a guy, pkg weight 2#.
    He recieved an empty box, with a new shipping label on it listed weight .5#.
    The item was stolen en route, and the package relabled in house. It's a
    good thing I had it insured, but the item is discontinues and it was
    customized. They are able to pinpoint the location that the theft occurs
    due to so much scanning, but that doesn't make it OK. That being said, my
    guy had his $$ within two weeks of making a claim. But it doens't replace
    an item you can no longer buy. In 13 years of shipping, this is the first
    problem I've had with them.

    penny

  10. small change said:
    sittingduck said:
    Ground Control said:

    You know who I mean - UPS

    That's why I use FedEx.

    I've always preferred fedex ground, it's faster and about 30-50% less than
    the UNTIED parcel service.
    For the most part, they seem to do less bonehead stuff with packages too.
    but...

    they all have their problems. It's just a matter of when, and how they
    respond. I recently shipped a customized backpack to a guy, pkg weight 2#.
    He recieved an empty box, with a new shipping label on it listed weight .5#.
    The item was stolen en route, and the package relabled in house. It's a
    good thing I had it insured, but the item is discontinues and it was
    customized. They are able to pinpoint the location that the theft occurs
    due to so much scanning, but that doesn't make it OK. That being said, my
    guy had his $$ within two weeks of making a claim. But it doens't replace
    an item you can no longer buy. In 13 years of shipping, this is the first
    problem I've had with them.

    penny

    UPS vs. FexEx may be an issue of the local office. I live somewhat
    remotely and far prefer UPS over FedEx. UPS has a local office in
    Durango, FedEx deliveries come out of Farmington, I've had much better
    luck with UPS.

    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
    remove "mydebt" to reply

  11. Well, after firing off a blistering email and a call to the local DC, we got
    our weekly general merchandise order today about 2pm. Still later than
    normal but at a workable time.

    Nelson AKA Ground Control

  12. Chris Phillipo said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Do it! We had to do the same thing at my work. We moved into a brand new
    warehouse development and we were one of the only businesses in that
    area
    for awhile. UPS said that's why they put us on the end of the day
    schedule. We told them they better start delivering well before lunchor
    we'll compel our vendors not to use UPS for shipments to us, and we will
    drastically lower our daily shipments thru them. They changed real fast.

    They can't afford to be pulling [censored] like that nowadays... they're no
    longer the only game in town.

    We now usually get a truck around 9:30am and another one later in the
    morning or early afternoon :-)

    Talk to your UPS business rep/sup.
    --
    Slacker

    We did the same and things did not change at all. DHL has taken over
    many of their big accounts now in Canada. Now we get things next day
    instead of the day after next.

    Well, perhaps we have a bit more leverage since we also service parts that
    go on their planes.

    Good to see DHL is stepping in to fill the gap. UPS good use a ass
    whooping.
    --
    Slacker

  13. Chris Phillipo said:

    We did the same and things did not change at all. DHL has taken over
    many of their big accounts now in Canada. Now we get things next day
    instead of the day after next.

    Huh. I hate dealing with DHL. I never know when they're going to show
    up, they *will not* leave packages on the front porch, their depot is 20
    horrendously congested miles away and they close early. Grrr.....

    FedEx and UPS, on the other hand, have a regular route through my area,
    are always here before noon and are willing to stick packages behind the
    big planter on the front porch (if no signature is required). The one
    time I received an obviously smooshed and battered package from UPS, the
    driver himself pointed it out to me and waited while I opened the box to
    check the contents. It was just fabric, though (as opposed to computer
    components), and nothing was torn, missing or soiled.

    Kathleen

  14. "Kathleen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    | Chris Phillipo wrote:
    |
    |
    | > We did the same and things did not change at all. DHL has taken over
    | > many of their big accounts now in Canada. Now we get things next day
    | > instead of the day after next.
    |
    | Huh. I hate dealing with DHL. I never know when they're going to show
    | up, they *will not* leave packages on the front porch, their depot is 20
    | horrendously congested miles away and they close early. Grrr.....
    |
    | FedEx and UPS, on the other hand, have a regular route through my area,
    | are always here before noon and are willing to stick packages behind the
    | big planter on the front porch (if no signature is required). The one
    | time I received an obviously smooshed and battered package from UPS, the
    | driver himself pointed it out to me and waited while I opened the box to
    | check the contents. It was just fabric, though (as opposed to computer
    | components), and nothing was torn, missing or soiled.
    |
    | Kathleen
    |

    That has been my normal experience with UPS. Problem is, I've come to find
    out, that with the road construction on the highway we're located, they've
    tacked us onto the tail end of a residential route and brought in some newer
    drivers who don't understand the concept of a business delivery or even a
    receiving door.

    ---
    __o
    _`\(,_ Cycling is life,
    (_)/ (_) all the rest, just details.
    The Nelson Paradigm =^o.o^=
    http://intergalax.com
    http://intbike.com
    Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
    Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 9/10/2004

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