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  1. On the last two rides, I was amazed to get buzzed closely by 18-wheelers.

    Usually these are nice enough guys, but both times were on the final feeder
    to a dead-end road, not out in the open. In the first case the guy came
    close enough that I unconsciously pulled in my left shoulder. He had cars
    parked on his side of the road, and though he was driving at about 10mph or
    less, a prudent person would have hesitated behind the car parked on his
    side and let me scoot past him in my lane. As it was he went way over into
    my lane, getting closer as the rear end of this vehicle came near me.

    He was consciously cutting it as close as he could using the diagonal to
    make it even more frightening, even though eventually slowing to about 5mph
    as the dead end of the street neared. I was riding uphill out of the dead
    end, where the trucks had a delivery station. (Allied vans)

    I came very close to turning around and finding this guy's boss and telling
    him what happened. As it was I tried to be cool, and had worked up a good
    head of steam coming up the hill.

    Today, a guy came around a corner, and up a hill at about 10-15mph. I was
    half-way up the hill, and he had the whole road open. Instead he chose to
    do the same thing, cut across me slightly so that his rear end angled ever
    closer and -again- I unconsciously pulled in my shoulder - this time
    looking in the mirror, thinking, 'he's gonna clip me!' (The involuntary
    flich tells me, by rule of thumb, he was within a foot to 18".

    Again, I could have followed him to the drop station and complained - it
    was the same Allied Van drop off, but he had a different truck.

    I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why would
    they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for kicks? Equally
    strange is that they knew I could follow them and confront them. Most
    cowards will do it and speed off so you can't read their plates.

    -B

  2. Badger_South wrote:
    :: On the last two rides, I was amazed to get buzzed closely by
    :: 18-wheelers.
    ::
    :: Usually these are nice enough guys, but both times were on the final
    :: feeder to a dead-end road, not out in the open. In the first case
    :: the guy came close enough that I unconsciously pulled in my left
    :: shoulder. He had cars parked on his side of the road, and though he
    :: was driving at about 10mph or less, a prudent person would have
    :: hesitated behind the car parked on his side and let me scoot past
    :: him in my lane. As it was he went way over into my lane, getting
    :: closer as the rear end of this vehicle came near me.
    ::
    :: He was consciously cutting it as close as he could using the
    :: diagonal to make it even more frightening, even though eventually
    :: slowing to about 5mph as the dead end of the street neared. I was
    :: riding uphill out of the dead end, where the trucks had a delivery
    :: station. (Allied vans)
    ::
    :: I came very close to turning around and finding this guy's boss and
    :: telling him what happened. As it was I tried to be cool, and had
    :: worked up a good head of steam coming up the hill.
    ::
    :: Today, a guy came around a corner, and up a hill at about 10-15mph.
    :: I was half-way up the hill, and he had the whole road open. Instead
    :: he chose to do the same thing, cut across me slightly so that his
    :: rear end angled ever closer and -again- I unconsciously pulled in my
    :: shoulder - this time looking in the mirror, thinking, 'he's gonna
    :: clip me!' (The involuntary flich tells me, by rule of thumb, he was
    :: within a foot to 18".
    ::
    :: Again, I could have followed him to the drop station and complained
    :: - it was the same Allied Van drop off, but he had a different truck.
    ::
    :: I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why
    :: would they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for
    :: kicks? Equally strange is that they knew I could follow them and
    :: confront them. Most cowards will do it and speed off so you can't
    :: read their plates.

    Maybe they didn't preceive the problem. Drivers typically have different
    skill, experience, and comfort levels.

    I was on a trip in Mississippiback in August and decided to take my bike .
    In that part of the state it is very flat (the delta). I found a route
    leaving from my mom's house that was about 17 miles long, with one part
    being a two-lane highway that went for about 7 or 8 miles. I'm riding along
    on my side of the road, near the right. Two cars are approaching in the
    other direction, in the other lane. I could easily see both cars. The
    person in the second car decides to pass the first car, so she cuts into my
    lane -- with me on the side of the road. And she did this almost right in
    front of me. She didn't think anything of it apparently, but I went off the
    road onto a shoulder whose surface was made from large stones (palm-sized
    stones). I was lucky I didn't crash. By the time I stopped the bike to
    look back, both cars were out of sight.

    Some drivers are just stupid.

  3. On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:13:38 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    :: I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why
    :: would they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for
    :: kicks? Equally strange is that they knew I could follow them and
    :: confront them. Most cowards will do it and speed off so you can't
    :: read their plates.

    Maybe they didn't preceive the problem. Drivers typically have different
    skill, experience, and comfort levels.

    I was on a trip in Mississippiback in August and decided to take my bike .
    In that part of the state it is very flat (the delta). I found a route
    leaving from my mom's house that was about 17 miles long, with one part
    being a two-lane highway that went for about 7 or 8 miles. I'm riding along
    on my side of the road, near the right. Two cars are approaching in the
    other direction, in the other lane. I could easily see both cars. The
    person in the second car decides to pass the first car, so she cuts into my
    lane -- with me on the side of the road. And she did this almost right in
    front of me. She didn't think anything of it apparently, but I went off the
    road onto a shoulder whose surface was made from large stones (palm-sized
    stones). I was lucky I didn't crash. By the time I stopped the bike to
    look back, both cars were out of sight.

    Some drivers are just stupid.

    Oh, they don't get off that easy. Those truckers know exactly where there
    truck is on the road, and have an exquisite feel for tolerances - remember
    they have to pass a course and can back them up on a dime and skim a
    telephone pole with ease. I know they were watching me in the rearview.

    I called the van lines office and am going to speak to the Manager in an
    hour. I got the name of the other van - "Houff Transfer" out of Weyer's
    Cave in Va, making a delivery to "Packaging Supply" at about 12:30.

    Oddly the mgr at Packaging supply said 'were you riding on the road?" I
    said "'yes, on my side near the edge"

    He says, 'well how was he going to get by you?'. I was like 'huh? I don't
    care, but it doesn't give him a right to run me over to get by'.

    Sheesh.

    -B

  4. On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:13:38 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    :: I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why
    :: would they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for
    :: kicks? Equally strange is that they knew I could follow them and
    :: confront them. Most cowards will do it and speed off so you can't
    :: read their plates.

    Maybe they didn't preceive the problem. Drivers typically have different
    skill, experience, and comfort levels.

    I was on a trip in Mississippiback in August and decided to take my bike .
    In that part of the state it is very flat (the delta). I found a route
    leaving from my mom's house that was about 17 miles long, with one part
    being a two-lane highway that went for about 7 or 8 miles. I'm riding along
    on my side of the road, near the right. Two cars are approaching in the
    other direction, in the other lane. I could easily see both cars. The
    person in the second car decides to pass the first car, so she cuts into my
    lane -- with me on the side of the road. And she did this almost right in
    front of me. She didn't think anything of it apparently, but I went off the
    road onto a shoulder whose surface was made from large stones (palm-sized
    stones). I was lucky I didn't crash. By the time I stopped the bike to
    look back, both cars were out of sight.

    Some drivers are just stupid.

    Oh, they don't get off that easy. Those truckers know exactly where there
    truck is on the road, and have an exquisite feel for tolerances - remember
    they have to pass a course and can back them up on a dime and skim a
    telephone pole with ease. I know they were watching me in the rearview.

    I called the van lines office and am going to speak to the Manager in an
    hour. I got the name of the other van - "Houff Transfer" out of Weyer's
    Cave in Va, making a delivery to "Packaging Supply" at about 12:30.

    Oddly the mgr at Packaging supply said 'were you riding on the road?" I
    said "'yes, on my side near the edge"

    He says, 'well how was he going to get by you?'. I was like 'huh? I don't
    care, but it doesn't give him a right to run me over to get by'.

    Sheesh.

    -B

  5. On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:13:38 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    :: I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why
    :: would they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for
    :: kicks? Equally strange is that they knew I could follow them and
    :: confront them. Most cowards will do it and speed off so you can't
    :: read their plates.

    Maybe they didn't preceive the problem. Drivers typically have different
    skill, experience, and comfort levels.

    I was on a trip in Mississippiback in August and decided to take my bike .
    In that part of the state it is very flat (the delta). I found a route
    leaving from my mom's house that was about 17 miles long, with one part
    being a two-lane highway that went for about 7 or 8 miles. I'm riding along
    on my side of the road, near the right. Two cars are approaching in the
    other direction, in the other lane. I could easily see both cars. The
    person in the second car decides to pass the first car, so she cuts into my
    lane -- with me on the side of the road. And she did this almost right in
    front of me. She didn't think anything of it apparently, but I went off the
    road onto a shoulder whose surface was made from large stones (palm-sized
    stones). I was lucky I didn't crash. By the time I stopped the bike to
    look back, both cars were out of sight.

    Some drivers are just stupid.

    Oh, they don't get off that easy. Those truckers know exactly where there
    truck is on the road, and have an exquisite feel for tolerances - remember
    they have to pass a course and can back them up on a dime and skim a
    telephone pole with ease. I know they were watching me in the rearview.

    I called the van lines office and am going to speak to the Manager in an
    hour. I got the name of the other van - "Houff Transfer" out of Weyer's
    Cave in Va, making a delivery to "Packaging Supply" at about 12:30.

    Oddly the mgr at Packaging supply said 'were you riding on the road?" I
    said "'yes, on my side near the edge"

    He says, 'well how was he going to get by you?'. I was like 'huh? I don't
    care, but it doesn't give him a right to run me over to get by'.

    Sheesh.

    -B

  6. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On the last two rides, I was amazed to get buzzed closely by 18-wheelers.

    Usually these are nice enough guys, but both times were on the final


    feeder

    Quoted message said:

    to a dead-end road, not out in the open. In the first case the guy came
    close enough that I unconsciously pulled in my left shoulder. He had cars
    parked on his side of the road, and though he was driving at about 10mph


    or

    Quoted message said:

    less, a prudent person would have hesitated behind the car parked on his
    side and let me scoot past him in my lane. As it was he went way over into
    my lane, getting closer as the rear end of this vehicle came near me.

    He was consciously cutting it as close as he could using the diagonal to
    make it even more frightening, even though eventually slowing to about


    5mph

    Quoted message said:

    as the dead end of the street neared. I was riding uphill out of the dead
    end, where the trucks had a delivery station. (Allied vans)

    I came very close to turning around and finding this guy's boss and


    telling

    Quoted message said:

    him what happened. As it was I tried to be cool, and had worked up a good
    head of steam coming up the hill.

    Today, a guy came around a corner, and up a hill at about 10-15mph. I was
    half-way up the hill, and he had the whole road open. Instead he chose to
    do the same thing, cut across me slightly so that his rear end angled ever
    closer and -again- I unconsciously pulled in my shoulder - this time
    looking in the mirror, thinking, 'he's gonna clip me!' (The involuntary
    flich tells me, by rule of thumb, he was within a foot to 18".

    Again, I could have followed him to the drop station and complained - it
    was the same Allied Van drop off, but he had a different truck.

    I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why would
    they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for kicks?


    Equally

    Quoted message said:

    strange is that they knew I could follow them and confront them. Most
    cowards will do it and speed off so you can't read their plates.

    -B

    I hate my life. Here I am stuck in this nowhere job driving this lousy
    truck for a lousy few bucks an hour. I can't wait til quittin' time when I
    can go chug some brewskies. My wife better not nag me about gettin' outta
    the trailer park again tonight. Shoot, all she's gotta do all day is take
    care of the 4 kids. She's got it easy. My life sucks. Hey, there's a
    skinny dude on a bike that costs more than my trailer is worth. And he's
    off while I'm working. Lets scare the [censored] out of him. That'll make me
    feel like more of a man. Take that you sissy! HA! Now I don't feel so
    worthless.

    I think it goes something like that.

    Bob C.

  7. On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:51:17 -0400, "psycholist" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    I hate my life. Here I am stuck in this nowhere job driving this lousy
    truck for a lousy few bucks an hour. I can't wait til quittin' time when I
    can go chug some brewskies. My wife better not nag me about gettin' outta
    the trailer park again tonight. Shoot, all she's gotta do all day is take
    care of the 4 kids. She's got it easy. My life sucks. Hey, there's a
    skinny dude on a bike that costs more than my trailer is worth. And he's
    off while I'm working. Lets scare the [censored] out of him. That'll make me
    feel like more of a man. Take that you sissy! HA! Now I don't feel so
    worthless.

    I think it goes something like that.

    Bob C.

    Correction: "There's a muscular, and gnarly looking dude on a bike who
    could kick my worthless ass. I'm a coward, and an idiot, and I'm gonna
    prove it." ;-)

    I've already got an email off to his company's president and safety
    officer:

    www.houck.com/contacts.htm

    -B

  8. Badger_South said:

    On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:51:17 -0400, "psycholist" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    I hate my life. Here I am stuck in this nowhere job driving this lousy
    truck for a lousy few bucks an hour. I can't wait til quittin' time when I
    can go chug some brewskies. My wife better not nag me about gettin' outta
    the trailer park again tonight. Shoot, all she's gotta do all day is take
    care of the 4 kids. She's got it easy. My life sucks. Hey, there's a
    skinny dude on a bike that costs more than my trailer is worth. And he's
    off while I'm working. Lets scare the [censored] out of him. That'll make me
    feel like more of a man. Take that you sissy! HA! Now I don't feel so
    worthless.

    I think it goes something like that.

    Bob C.

    Correction: "There's a muscular, and gnarly looking dude on a bike who
    could kick my worthless ass. I'm a coward, and an idiot, and I'm gonna
    prove it." ;-)

    I've already got an email off to his company's president and safety
    officer:

    www.houck.com/contacts.htm

    -B

    oops, correction www.houff.com/contacts.htm

    -B

  9. Badger_South wrote:
    :: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:13:38 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::::: I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why
    ::::: would they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for
    ::::: kicks? Equally strange is that they knew I could follow them and
    ::::: confront them. Most cowards will do it and speed off so you can't
    ::::: read their plates.
    :::
    ::: Maybe they didn't preceive the problem. Drivers typically have
    ::: different skill, experience, and comfort levels.
    :::
    ::: I was on a trip in Mississippiback in August and decided to take my
    ::: bike . In that part of the state it is very flat (the delta). I
    ::: found a route leaving from my mom's house that was about 17 miles
    ::: long, with one part being a two-lane highway that went for about 7
    ::: or 8 miles. I'm riding along on my side of the road, near the
    ::: right. Two cars are approaching in the other direction, in the
    ::: other lane. I could easily see both cars. The person in the second
    ::: car decides to pass the first car, so she cuts into my lane --
    ::: with me on the side of the road. And she did this almost right in
    ::: front of me. She didn't think anything of it apparently, but I went
    ::: off the road onto a shoulder whose surface was made from large
    ::: stones (palm-sized stones). I was lucky I didn't crash. By the
    ::: time I stopped the bike to look back, both cars were out of sight.
    :::
    ::: Some drivers are just stupid.
    ::
    :: Oh, they don't get off that easy. Those truckers know exactly where
    :: there truck is on the road, and have an exquisite feel for
    :: tolerances - remember they have to pass a course and can back them
    :: up on a dime and skim a telephone pole with ease. I know they were
    :: watching me in the rearview.
    ::
    :: I called the van lines office and am going to speak to the Manager
    :: in an hour. I got the name of the other van - "Houff Transfer" out
    :: of Weyer's Cave in Va, making a delivery to "Packaging Supply" at
    :: about 12:30.
    ::
    :: Oddly the mgr at Packaging supply said 'were you riding on the
    :: road?" I said "'yes, on my side near the edge"
    ::
    :: He says, 'well how was he going to get by you?'. I was like 'huh? I
    :: don't care, but it doesn't give him a right to run me over to get
    :: by'.

    Well, now you're just case is just hopeless because they don't recognize
    your (our) right to even be on the road..

    Your life isn't worth delaying a driver for a few moments - you don't belong
    on the road.

  10. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:51:17 -0400, "psycholist" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    I hate my life. Here I am stuck in this nowhere job driving this lousy
    truck for a lousy few bucks an hour. I can't wait til quittin' time when


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can go chug some brewskies. My wife better not nag me about gettin'


    outta

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the trailer park again tonight. Shoot, all she's gotta do all day is


    take

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    care of the 4 kids. She's got it easy. My life sucks. Hey, there's a
    skinny dude on a bike that costs more than my trailer is worth. And he's
    off while I'm working. Lets scare the [censored] out of him. That'll make me
    feel like more of a man. Take that you sissy! HA! Now I don't feel so
    worthless.

    I think it goes something like that.

    Bob C.

    Correction: "There's a muscular, and gnarly looking dude on a bike who
    could kick my worthless ass. I'm a coward, and an idiot, and I'm gonna
    prove it." ;-)

    I've already got an email off to his company's president and safety
    officer:

    www.houck.com/contacts.htm

    -B

    Good job! I know it's a pain in the ass to take up this kind of battle, but
    it's for the good of the next rider who those truckers encounter.

    Bob C.

  11. psycholist said:

    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On the last two rides, I was amazed to get buzzed closely by 18-wheelers.

    Usually these are nice enough guys, but both times were on the final


    feeder

    Quoted message said:

    to a dead-end road, not out in the open. In the first case the guy came
    close enough that I unconsciously pulled in my left shoulder. He had cars
    parked on his side of the road, and though he was driving at about 10mph


    or

    Quoted message said:

    less, a prudent person would have hesitated behind the car parked on his
    side and let me scoot past him in my lane. As it was he went way over into
    my lane, getting closer as the rear end of this vehicle came near me.

    He was consciously cutting it as close as he could using the diagonal to
    make it even more frightening, even though eventually slowing to about


    5mph

    Quoted message said:

    as the dead end of the street neared. I was riding uphill out of the dead
    end, where the trucks had a delivery station. (Allied vans)

    I came very close to turning around and finding this guy's boss and


    telling

    Quoted message said:

    him what happened. As it was I tried to be cool, and had worked up a good
    head of steam coming up the hill.

    Today, a guy came around a corner, and up a hill at about 10-15mph. I was
    half-way up the hill, and he had the whole road open. Instead he chose to
    do the same thing, cut across me slightly so that his rear end angled ever
    closer and -again- I unconsciously pulled in my shoulder - this time
    looking in the mirror, thinking, 'he's gonna clip me!' (The involuntary
    flich tells me, by rule of thumb, he was within a foot to 18".

    Again, I could have followed him to the drop station and complained - it
    was the same Allied Van drop off, but he had a different truck.

    I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why would
    they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for kicks?


    Equally

    Quoted message said:

    strange is that they knew I could follow them and confront them. Most
    cowards will do it and speed off so you can't read their plates.

    -B

    I hate my life. Here I am stuck in this nowhere job driving this lousy
    truck for a lousy few bucks an hour. I can't wait til quittin' time when I
    can go chug some brewskies. My wife better not nag me about gettin' outta
    the trailer park again tonight. Shoot, all she's gotta do all day is take
    care of the 4 kids. She's got it easy. My life sucks. Hey, there's a
    skinny dude on a bike that costs more than my trailer is worth. And he's
    off while I'm working. Lets scare the [censored] out of him. That'll make me
    feel like more of a man. Take that you sissy! HA! Now I don't feel so
    worthless.

    I think it goes something like that.

    Bob C.

    I think it probably goes a bit deeper in this case. Those truckers are chugging brewskies and comparing notes on how far they got your shoulder to flinch when they played chicken with you. 😄

    I've had a lot of truckers come a few inches off my shoulder down one route I used to ride, a very scenic 78 mile round trip that I am disappointed I don't venture to do anymore because of the crazy semi drivers.

  12. On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:12:37 -0400, "psycholist" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:51:17 -0400, "psycholist" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    I hate my life. Here I am stuck in this nowhere job driving this lousy
    truck for a lousy few bucks an hour. I can't wait til quittin' time when


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can go chug some brewskies. My wife better not nag me about gettin'


    outta

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the trailer park again tonight. Shoot, all she's gotta do all day is


    take

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    care of the 4 kids. She's got it easy. My life sucks. Hey, there's a
    skinny dude on a bike that costs more than my trailer is worth. And he's
    off while I'm working. Lets scare the [censored] out of him. That'll make me
    feel like more of a man. Take that you sissy! HA! Now I don't feel so
    worthless.

    I think it goes something like that.

    Bob C.

    Correction: "There's a muscular, and gnarly looking dude on a bike who
    could kick my worthless ass. I'm a coward, and an idiot, and I'm gonna
    prove it." ;-)

    I've already got an email off to his company's president and safety
    officer:

    www.houck.com/contacts.htm

    -B

    Good job! I know it's a pain in the ass to take up this kind of battle, but
    it's for the good of the next rider who those truckers encounter.

    Bob C.

    That road is pretty deserted, so I'm sure if he'd have run me over, nobody
    would have discovered what happened.

    Again, I misspelled, it's www.houff.com, and this company seems to pride
    themselves on their 'safety record' on the site. I'm hoping these are good
    guys and that they'll reprimand this guy, at least.

    I'm gonna start riding with a camera on the handlebars, so I can snap a
    picture in an instant.

    One reason I didn't follow the guy to the end of the street is that I
    wasn't sure what to do aside from kicking his ass. Now I have a plan. I'll
    follow the guy and take several pictures of his rig and license number, and
    snap him getting out of the cab. That way I don't have to say or do
    anything, and should I decide later to press the issue I'll have evidence.
    This time I didn't get the license of either guy, but I should have, since
    I could easily meet the same guy again.

    That may be more of a deterrent than yelling at him. ("hey this guy is too
    organized..."😉. I'd rather have an apology than any retribution, since the
    goal is to re-educate for the future.

    -B

  13. Badger_South said:

    On the last two rides, I was amazed to get buzzed closely by 18-wheelers.

    I got buzzed by a shuttle bus on campus once. All I did was call the
    office in charge of the busses, and say when and where it happened,
    reminding them that they must give adequate clearance when passing slower
    vehicles. Never had any trouble with them since.

    Worth a call, since you seem to ride there often.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all
    _`\(,_ | mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so
    (_)/ (_) | that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am
    nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]

  14. "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On the last two rides, I was amazed to get buzzed closely by 18-wheelers.

    Usually these are nice enough guys, but both times were on the final


    feeder

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    to a dead-end road, not out in the open. In the first case the guy came
    close enough that I unconsciously pulled in my left shoulder. He had cars
    parked on his side of the road, and though he was driving at about 10mph


    or

    Quoted message said:

    less, a prudent person would have hesitated behind the car parked on his
    side and let me scoot past him in my lane. As it was he went way over into
    my lane, getting closer as the rear end of this vehicle came near me.

    He was consciously cutting it as close as he could using the diagonal to
    make it even more frightening, even though eventually slowing to about


    5mph

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    as the dead end of the street neared. I was riding uphill out of the dead
    end, where the trucks had a delivery station. (Allied vans)

    I came very close to turning around and finding this guy's boss and


    telling

    Quoted message said:

    him what happened. As it was I tried to be cool, and had worked up a good
    head of steam coming up the hill.

    Today, a guy came around a corner, and up a hill at about 10-15mph. I was
    half-way up the hill, and he had the whole road open. Instead he chose to
    do the same thing, cut across me slightly so that his rear end angled ever
    closer and -again- I unconsciously pulled in my shoulder - this time
    looking in the mirror, thinking, 'he's gonna clip me!' (The involuntary
    flich tells me, by rule of thumb, he was within a foot to 18".

    Again, I could have followed him to the drop station and complained - it
    was the same Allied Van drop off, but he had a different truck.

    I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why would
    they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for kicks?


    Equally

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    strange is that they knew I could follow them and confront them. Most
    cowards will do it and speed off so you can't read their plates.

    -B

    I hate my life. Here I am stuck in this nowhere job driving this lousy
    truck for a lousy few bucks an hour. I can't wait til quittin' time when I
    can go chug some brewskies. My wife better not nag me about gettin' outta
    the trailer park again tonight. Shoot, all she's gotta do all day is take
    care of the 4 kids. She's got it easy. My life sucks. Hey, there's a
    skinny dude on a bike that costs more than my trailer is worth. And he's
    off while I'm working. Lets scare the [censored] out of him. That'll make me
    feel like more of a man. Take that you sissy! HA! Now I don't feel so
    worthless.

    I think it goes something like that.

    Bob C.

    You're ignorance is showing.

  15. Badger_South <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:13:38 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    :: I didn't hinder either of these guys, or even make them slow. Why
    :: would they risk running over someone in a company truck - just for
    :: kicks? Equally strange is that they knew I could follow them and
    :: confront them. Most cowards will do it and speed off so you can't
    :: read their plates.

    Maybe they didn't preceive the problem. Drivers typically have different
    skill, experience, and comfort levels.

    I was on a trip in Mississippiback in August and decided to take my bike .
    In that part of the state it is very flat (the delta). I found a route
    leaving from my mom's house that was about 17 miles long, with one part
    being a two-lane highway that went for about 7 or 8 miles. I'm riding along
    on my side of the road, near the right. Two cars are approaching in the
    other direction, in the other lane. I could easily see both cars. The
    person in the second car decides to pass the first car, so she cuts into my
    lane -- with me on the side of the road. And she did this almost right in
    front of me. She didn't think anything of it apparently, but I went off the
    road onto a shoulder whose surface was made from large stones (palm-sized
    stones). I was lucky I didn't crash. By the time I stopped the bike to
    look back, both cars were out of sight.

    Some drivers are just stupid.

    Oh, they don't get off that easy. Those truckers know exactly where there
    truck is on the road, and have an exquisite feel for tolerances - remember
    they have to pass a course and can back them up on a dime and skim a
    telephone pole with ease. I know they were watching me in the rearview.

    I called the van lines office and am going to speak to the Manager in an
    hour. I got the name of the other van - "Houff Transfer" out of Weyer's
    Cave in Va, making a delivery to "Packaging Supply" at about 12:30.

    Oddly the mgr at Packaging supply said 'were you riding on the road?" I
    said "'yes, on my side near the edge"

    He says, 'well how was he going to get by you?'. I was like 'huh? I don't
    care, but it doesn't give him a right to run me over to get by'.

    But he didn't run you over, right?

  16. "R.White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message .

    Quoted message said:

    Badger_South <[email hidden]> wrote in message >...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He says, 'well how was he going to get by you?'. I was like 'huh? I don't


    care, but it doesn't give him a right to run me over to get by'.

    But he didn't run you over, right?

    Useless blue collar workers.
    Just like the rest of them, we don't need that class of people around.

  17. (R.White) said:


    But he didn't run you over, right?

    Well a-hole, you can be my first *plonk* in this group.

    -B

  18. Badger_South said:

    I'm gonna start riding with a camera on the handlebars, so I can snap a
    picture in an instant.

    One reason I didn't follow the guy to the end of the street is that I
    wasn't sure what to do aside from kicking his ass. Now I have a plan. I'll
    follow the guy and take several pictures of his rig and license number, and
    snap him getting out of the cab. That way I don't have to say or do
    anything, and should I decide later to press the issue I'll have evidence.
    This time I didn't get the license of either guy, but I should have, since
    I could easily meet the same guy again.

    That may be more of a deterrent than yelling at him. ("hey this guy is too
    organized..."😉. I'd rather have an apology than any retribution, since the
    goal is to re-educate for the future.

    Do you know any lawyers? It might be worth asking one what kind of
    evidence to make sure you've got.

    -km

    --
    Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester
    the black rose
    proud to be owned by a yorkie
    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

  19. the black rose said:
    Badger_South said:

    I'm gonna start riding with a camera on the handlebars, so I can snap a
    picture in an instant.

    One reason I didn't follow the guy to the end of the street is that I
    wasn't sure what to do aside from kicking his ass. Now I have a plan. I'll
    follow the guy and take several pictures of his rig and license number, and
    snap him getting out of the cab. That way I don't have to say or do
    anything, and should I decide later to press the issue I'll have evidence.
    This time I didn't get the license of either guy, but I should have, since
    I could easily meet the same guy again.

    That may be more of a deterrent than yelling at him. ("hey this guy is too
    organized..."😉. I'd rather have an apology than any retribution, since the
    goal is to re-educate for the future.

    Do you know any lawyers? It might be worth asking one what kind of
    evidence to make sure you've got.

    -km

    Well for the police to do anything, you need to ID both the vehicle, and
    postively ID the driver. Thus a photo would do that. IOW, you can't just
    say 'this car driver recklessly endangered me, and so-and-so owns the car -
    I saw a guy was driving...so it must be the owner'.

    Now, even having this info, it depends on the cop - many won't even respond
    or take a report if the biker wasn't run over a few times. <g>

    Of course if there is some property damage to the car, boy, they'll show up
    for sure - so don't even think about kicking the cager's vehicle even if
    they run you off the road and spit on you.

    -B

  20. Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:01:49 GMT, <xR32d.20133$%S.13013@pd7tw2no>,
    Prince "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email hidden]> decreed:

    Quoted message said:

    Useless blue collar workers.
    Just like the rest of them, we don't need that class of people around.

    Don't worry, baby. They're disappearing into homeless shelters.
    --
    zk

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