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Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself? We passed several such painted on bikes in Anglesey on a stretch of road there, and I'm curious to know whether they actually meant anything.
Without supporting roadside signage I think it means the council had an excesss of paint and a bright idea .. 😉
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Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself? We passed several such painted on bikes in Anglesey on a stretch of road there, and I'm curious to know whether they actually meant anything.
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself?
It might mean that this is part of a cycle route? I mean a cycle route like 'Anglesey 2km turn left here'. In London the cycle symbol is painted on roads which are part of the LCN. If I'm not wrong, they are there as confirmation that you're on the right road, and probably to warn drivers to take care. I am willing to stand corrected.
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself? We passed several such painted on bikes in Anglesey on a stretch of road there, and I'm curious to know whether they actually meant anything.
Possibly National Cycle Network. I know NCN 4, at least, has them.
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself? We passed several such painted on bikes in Anglesey on a stretch of road there, and I'm curious to know whether they actually meant anything.
Possibly National Cycle Network. I know NCN 4, at least, has them.
They are used quite widely in Winchester - but they are not on NCN routes. They enable the council to proclaim how much they do for cycling. It helps them puff their chests out.
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Colin Davidson said:
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself?
It might mean that this is part of a cycle route? I mean a cycle route like 'Anglesey 2km turn left here'. In London the cycle symbol is painted on roads which are part of the LCN. If I'm not wrong, they are there as confirmation that you're on the right road, and probably to warn drivers to take care. I am willing to stand corrected.
Your take on the painted cycles in London sounds about correct. I prefer them to the cycle tracks for the simple reason that they seem to indicate to drivers that they should expect cycles as part of the traffic rather than being segregated. They are also painted a reasonable distance out from the kerb.
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Colin Davidson said:
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself?
It might mean that this is part of a cycle route? I mean a cycle route like 'Anglesey 2km turn left here'. In London the cycle symbol is painted on roads which are part of the LCN. If I'm not wrong, they are there as confirmation that you're on the right road, and probably to warn drivers to take care. I am willing to stand corrected.
Your take on the painted cycles in London sounds about correct. I prefer them to the cycle tracks for the simple reason that they seem to indicate to drivers that they should expect cycles as part of the traffic rather than being segregated. They are also painted a reasonable distance out from the kerb.
In that light they seem 'a good idea'. Why, then, as a cyclist and a driver, do I not already know about this addition to our road markings ?
-- Paul ...
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"A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself? We passed several such painted on bikes in Anglesey on a stretch of road there, and I'm curious to know whether they actually meant anything.
Possibly National Cycle Network. I know NCN 4, at least, has them.
They are used quite widely in Winchester - but they are not on NCN routes. They enable the council to proclaim how much they do for cycling. It helps them puff their chests out.
Well, I reckon they're better than blue signs on pavements or 50 cm wide strips of coloured tarmac. They clearly announce to cyclists and drivers that the road place where cyclists should be.
Of course, none of the above give any assistance at all where it is actually needed; at junctions. It seems that imagination and political will seem to evaporate if anything that might de-prioritise the car is required.
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself?
Tends to be placed where there ought to be a cycle lane but there is not enough road space. (an advisory cycle lane would be better but is a bit too definite for many councils)
Regards Paul.
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Your take on the painted cycles in London sounds about correct. I prefer them to the cycle tracks for the simple reason that they seem to indicate to drivers that they should expect cycles as part of the traffic rather than being segregated. They are also painted a reasonable distance out from the kerb.
In that light they seem 'a good idea'. Why, then, as a cyclist and a driver, do I not already know about this addition to our road markings ?
Good question. They don't appear to be in the highway code. Presumably they have no legal force, although I'm not sure exactly what they would be used to enforce. Probably about the same as signs reminding drivers to take a break when they feel tired, i.e. "common sense" on a sign.
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Your take on the painted cycles in London sounds about correct. I prefer them to the cycle tracks for the simple reason that they seem to indicate to drivers that they should expect cycles as part of the traffic rather than being segregated. They are also painted a reasonable distance out from the kerb.
In that light they seem 'a good idea'. Why, then, as a cyclist and a driver, do I not already know about this addition to our road markings ?
Good question. They don't appear to be in the highway code. Presumably they have no legal force, although I'm not sure exactly what they would be used to enforce. Probably about the same as signs reminding drivers to take a break when they feel tired, i.e. "common sense" on a sign.
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Might be a bit of an exercise to have a wander round tomorrow and see what other signs and markings I also don't know about, and which aren't in HC .. 😉
-- Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!
"A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself? We passed several such painted on bikes in Anglesey on a stretch of road there, and I'm curious to know whether they actually meant anything.
I think this is what Jeremy Parker has referred to as a bike un-lane.
-- Dave...
Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain
Does a cycle painted on the road, in about the position where you'd expect there to be a cycle lane, have any significance in itself?
Tends to be placed where there ought to be a cycle lane but there is not enough road space. (an advisory cycle lane would be better but is a bit too definite for many councils)
I'm likely to be party to the painting of some of these. The message I want them to convey is 'chamge lane if you want to overtake a cyclist'. Those who design the scheme may have other ideas.
Colin McKenzie -- The great advantage of not trusting statistics is that it leaves you free to believe the damned lies instead!
I'm likely to be party to the painting of some of these. The message I want them to convey is 'chamge lane if you want to overtake a cyclist'. Those who design the scheme may have other ideas.
Colin McKenzie
If I were you, I'd have the urge to use the paint to emulate Le Tour, and have much more *interesting* pictures painted along the road ;-)
Cheers, helen s
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