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Zinc for colds?

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  1. No way! Jan Drew already warned me. He said that metals do not belong
    in the mouth!

    Zinc is one!

    Joel

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    http://www.newhope.com/nutritionsciencenews/NSN_backs/Nov_00/natnews5.cfm

    From The November 2000 Issue of Nutrition Science News

    Zinc Halts Colds
    Zinc lozenges have been used to treat the common cold for a number of
    years, but research results on their effectiveness have been
    contradictory. Now, a comprehensive, randomized, double-blind,
    placebo-controlled trial conducted by Ananda Prasad, M.D., Ph.D., of
    Wayne State University in Detroit has shown that zinc lozenges work.

    Forty-eight students, staff and employees at Wayne State University
    who had cold symptoms for 24 hours or less were given either a placebo
    or a zinc lozenge that contained 12.8 mg zinc acetate. Participants
    were given 50 lozenges and asked to dissolve one in their mouths every
    two to three hours while awake as long as they had cold symptoms. They
    took no other cold preparations. All participants returned to the
    clinic one day after their colds ended. At that time, their plasma was
    examined for an immune factor called pro-inflammatory cytokines, which
    causes cold symptoms.

    The zinc recipients suffered from their colds an average of 4.5 days,
    whereas the placebo group was under the weather an average of 8.1
    days. Most notably, zinc recipients coughed for only three days
    compared to six days for the placebo patients. When they initially
    came in for treatment, those who ended up taking zinc supplements
    actually reported more severe cold symptoms, including fever, sneezing
    and sore throat. However, by day four, their severity score was only
    half that of the placebo group.

    The participants given the zinc lozenges ingested approximately 80 mg
    of elemental zinc per day for about five days—five times the
    recommended daily allowance. The researchers recommend that this zinc
    dose not be sustained for many weeks at a time because it could cause
    copper deficiency, but they say it is safe to take during the shorter
    duration of a cold. Although researchers suggested the improvement in
    clinical symptoms might be caused by a reduction in immune cytokines,
    actual plasma cytokine levels were not significantly different between
    the two groups, possibly because blood samples were taken too long
    after the end of the colds.

    — Annals of Internal Medicine 2000 Aug 15;133(4):245-52.

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  2. Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. said:

    No way! Jan Drew already warned me. He said that metals do not belong
    in the mouth!

    Zinc is one!

    Does one have to take metallic Zinc (plates or powder?)
    What about calcium supplements? Hmmm, I had quite a bubbling feeling in
    my mouth when I took a piece of calcium metal today. Good that I did
    quit smoking some twenty years ago. Otherwise I would have had a problem
    due to the hydrogen gas developed in my mouth from the calcium reaction
    with saliva.
    Maybe I´ll try the same with sodium metal tomorrow? Or should I try
    potassium first? What do you think?

    Peter

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    Quoted message said:
    Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. said:

    No way! Jan Drew already warned me. He said that metals do not belong
    in the mouth!

    Zinc is one!

    Does one have to take metallic Zinc (plates or powder?)
    What about calcium supplements? Hmmm, I had quite a bubbling feeling in
    my mouth when I took a piece of calcium metal today. Good that I did
    quit smoking some twenty years ago. Otherwise I would have had a problem
    due to the hydrogen gas developed in my mouth from the calcium reaction
    with saliva.
    Maybe I´ll try the same with sodium metal tomorrow? Or should I try
    potassium first? What do you think?

    Sodium, for sure. Better still, get some gelatin capsules and fill them
    with sodium metal. Try to get a few into your stomach. Drink lots of
    water.

    le moo

  4. On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:46:26 +0100, Peter Meiers <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. said:

    No way! Jan Drew already warned me. He said that metals do not belong
    in the mouth!

    Zinc is one!

    Does one have to take metallic Zinc (plates or powder?)

    The guy yesterday said to blow it up your nose! I do not agree with
    off-label use of supplements or drugs!

    Quoted message said:

    What about calcium supplements? Hmmm, I had quite a bubbling feeling in
    my mouth when I took a piece of calcium metal today.

    I had that when some aluminum foil got inside my sandwich.

    Quoted message said:

    Good that I did
    quit smoking some twenty years ago. Otherwise I would have had a problem
    due to the hydrogen gas developed in my mouth from the calcium reaction
    with saliva.

    So do not ask for a light, ever!

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe I´ll try the same with sodium metal tomorrow? Or should I try
    potassium first? What do you think?

    Peter

    --
    Joel M. Eichen, .
    Philadelphia PA

    DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:

    *********

    Dental health-related material
    is provided for information purposes
    only and does not necessarily
    represent endorsement by or an official
    position of the SciMedDentistry gang
    or any other official agency either
    actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.

    Advice on the treatment or care
    of an individual patient should
    be obtained through consultation
    with a dentist who has examined
    that patient or is familiar with
    that patient's dental history.

    STANDARD DISCLAIMER

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