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  1. When it comes to the most valuable thing you have , your
    health , never allow yourself to be limited by the
    constraints of mindless conformity to the conventional
    system . Ask questions , investigate treatments and drugs
    and sensibly find out the beneficial or adverse effects
    these things will have on your overall health before
    committing to a regime that may take you places you do not
    wish to go.

    Do not be afraid to speak out if you feel that you are being
    treated without respect for your opinion about your body and
    about your most valuable asset , your health . Do not shun
    fully conventional medicine , but remember that your doctor
    is far from being infallible , and to question things is
    your duty to yourself .

    Also keep in mind that there are millions of people
    worldwide who have taken responsibility for their own
    healthcare by using what society very quaintly refers to as
    "alternative medicine" , when in fact the use of natural
    substances extends back to the beginning of life on this
    planet , rather the drug companies methods are in fact the
    real alternative medicine.

    On this ng you will see many uplifting stories about people
    having great success with the use of natural substances and
    cures for illnesses ranging from minimal to major , you will
    see great links to information that may be relevant to your
    problems , after all that is what this ng is all about . Of
    course the detractors are always going to be hovering and
    ridiculing , but step back and make decisions based on your
    own good common sense , ask people in your community and
    open your mind to daring to be different .

    Bew

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  2. Bew' qw@nonamewhatsover said:

    When it comes to the most valuable thing you have ,
    your health , never allow yourself to be limited by
    the constraints of mindless conformity to the
    conventional system .

    Agreed. Also don't limit yourself to mindless conformity to
    alternative system.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask questions , investigate treatments and drugs and
    sensibly find out the beneficial or adverse effects
    these things will have on your overall health before
    committing to a regime that may take you places you do
    not wish to go.

    Good advice. It is very important to ask questions and take
    an active part in your treatment.

    You should also ask alternative health care providers
    questions such as the evidence that what they are using to
    treat you actually has objective evidence it works. It is
    also important to ask the alt provider if there are any
    adverse effects from the treatment. It is often assumed
    that alt treatment are safe and side effect free. Often
    this is not the case.

    Quoted message said:


    Do not be afraid to speak out if you feel that you are
    being treated without respect for your opinion about your
    body and about your most valuable asset , your health . Do
    not shun fully conventional medicine , but remember that
    your doctor is far from being infallible , and to question
    things is your duty to yourself .

    I completely agree with the above.

    Quoted message said:


    Also keep in mind that there are millions of people
    worldwide who have taken responsibility for their own
    healthcare by using what society very quaintly refers to as
    "alternative medicine" , when in fact the use of natural
    substances extends back to the beginning of life on this
    planet , rather the drug companies methods are in fact the
    real alternative medicine.

    Conventional medicine is largely science based. Alternative
    medicine is largely anecdotally/empirically based.

    Quoted message said:


    On this ng you will see many uplifting stories about people
    having great success with the use of natural substances and
    cures for illnesses ranging from minimal to major'

    Yes you will. But it is important to not assume that they
    were really cured of these illnesses. On the internet anyone
    can claim anything. In the years I have been in this
    newsgroup I have debunked many claims made by various
    people. For example someone claimed that a skin cancer was
    removed by some salve. It turned out that the person who had
    the cancer never saw a dermatologist nor had a skin biopsy
    to make the diagnosis. Then of course we have someone
    claiming that she had mercury poisoning from amalgams and
    came close to death. Then within hours of having some
    amalgams removed she felt better than she had in two years
    and admitted this was due to "relief". YOu see the devil is
    often in the details.

    It is important the diagnosis be valid before determining
    whether the treatment was really effective for that
    diagnosis.

    Quoted message said:

    , you will see great links to information that may be
    relevant to your problems , after all that is what this ng
    is all about .

    No it is not. This group is not to help people with their
    health problems. It is a discussion group to discuss
    alternative medicine pro and con. Diagnosing is discouraged.
    Recommending treatments without completely evaluating the
    person is also fraught with problems.

    Quoted message said:

    Of course the detractors are always going to be hovering
    and ridiculing , but step back and make decisions based on
    your own good common sense , ask people in your community
    and open your mind to daring to be different .

    But not so open that your brains have fallen out. Alas this
    appears to have happened to a number of participants here.

    Aloha,

    Rich

    Quoted message said:


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  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Your Health
    From: "Bew" qw@nonamewhatsover
    Date: 3/26/2004 4:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Very well said, Bev.

    The detractors are the usual ones to do the personal
    trashing, based on their opinions only. They are really
    quite pathetic is not wanting alternative medicine to
    get results.

    Alternative medicine just keeps gowing, that means many are
    not getting any answers from conventional, and are tired of
    hearing, we can't find anything wrong, it must be all in
    your head.

    Jan

    Quoted message said:

    When it comes to the most valuable thing you have , your
    health , never allow yourself to be limited by the
    constraints of mindless conformity to the conventional
    system . Ask questions , investigate treatments and drugs
    and sensibly find out the beneficial or adverse effects
    these things will have on your overall health before
    committing to a regime that may take you places you do not
    wish to go.

    Do not be afraid to speak out if you feel that you are
    being treated without respect for your opinion about your
    body and about your most valuable asset , your health . Do
    not shun fully conventional medicine , but remember that
    your doctor is far from being infallible , and to question
    things is your duty to yourself .

    Also keep in mind that there are millions of people
    worldwide who have taken responsibility for their own
    healthcare by using what society very quaintly refers to as
    "alternative medicine" , when in fact the use of natural
    substances extends back to the beginning of life on this
    planet , rather the drug companies methods are in fact the
    real alternative medicine.

    On this ng you will see many uplifting stories about people
    having great success with the use of natural substances and
    cures for illnesses ranging from minimal to major , you
    will see great links to information that may be relevant to
    your problems , after all that is what this ng is all about
    . Of course the detractors are always going to be hovering
    and ridiculing , but step back and make decisions based on
    your own good common sense , ask people in your community
    and open your mind to daring to be different .

    Bew

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  4. Quoted message said:

    we can't find anything wrong, it must be all in your head.

    Jan

    in your case...it certainly was true..right jannopoooo??
    hawki.....

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