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Xenophobia, or some such phobia

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  1. Any ism that fancies that it is the only way thinks that ALL those who see the value of many ways or
    other ways as being against them. For example, Muslim extremist think that if you are not with them
    that you are against them. If someone comes along and believes that Islam and Hinduism and
    Christianity, for example, all come from God, the Muslim extremists will want to kill that person.
    In the same way, Christian fundamentalists think that if you do not accept Jesus as the One and Only
    way, then you are with Satan and are going to go to hell for all eternity, even if you adore Jesus
    and accept his divinity.

    Well, guess what?!?! The debunkers are exactly the same. If you do not do the scientific way
    ***exclusively***, then you are anti-science and worthy of all manner of attacks. So, I guess we
    could call these debunkers "science extremists". I suppose next we can expect them to bomb the
    Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, or perhaps the Vatican, or how about the building that holds
    the Holistic Health Association. There is no standard, no morality other than pushing their
    sciencism. Hurting others, lying, nothing is beneath them, except to push their sciencism agenda.
    They have basically thrown themselves at the feet of the Scientific Golden Calf. The Golden Rule,
    truth, justice, freedom, compassion, honesty, fair play, everything is subservient to their worship
    of science.

    Is this the secular religion that conservative Christians are always complaining about?

    Whole brainers use their left brain ***and*** their right brains. Science extremists use only their
    left brain and attack those who may also use their right brains. I guess this makes left-brainers
    half-wits, just as right-brainers are half-wits.

  2. "hotmoon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Any ism that fancies that it is the only way thinks that ALL those who see the value of many ways
    or other ways as being against them. For example, Muslim extremist think that if you are not with
    them that you are against them. If someone comes along and believes that Islam and Hinduism and
    Christianity, for example, all come from God, the Muslim extremists will want to kill that person.
    In the same way, Christian fundamentalists think that if you do not accept Jesus as the One and
    Only way, then you are with Satan and are going to go to hell for all eternity, even if you adore
    Jesus and accept his divinity.

    Well, guess what?!?! The debunkers are exactly the same. If you do not do the scientific way
    ***exclusively***, then you are anti-science and worthy of all manner of attacks.

    Then there are those who choose not to understand science, and thus do not understand how it differs
    from religion. The conflict here is between those who think that the questions alt.med testimonial
    and anecdote raise can be answered by the right kind of observation and testing, and those who think
    (religion-like) that they already have sure answers without going to all the bother.

    It is not clear why the latter should find contrary opinion so upsetting. Certainly this kind of
    complaint never proved any alternative valid, as most people do see the need to rule out all the
    possible mistaken impressions that give false impressions about the usefulness of medical
    treatments. Medical history is full of it.

    Peter Moran.

  3. "hotmoon" <[email hidden]>

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    Well, guess what?!?! The debunkers are exactly the same. If you do not do the scientific way
    ***exclusively***, then you are anti-science and worthy of all manner of attacks. So, I guess we
    could call these debunkers "science extremists". I suppose next we can expect them to bomb the
    Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, or perhaps the Vatican, or how about the building that holds
    the Holistic Health Association.

    Roger, there's just no evidence that "debunkers" do this sort of stuff.

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    There is no standard, no morality other than pushing their sciencism.

    There shouldn't be any standard for evidence save the evidence. Speaking of which, do you have any
    recent evidence to support your claim that drinking cold water can kill you (or, at least, your
    wife). Do you have any evidence that your children have been poisioned by vaccines?

    Quoted message said:

    Is this the secular religion that conservative Christians are always complaining about?

    No.

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    Whole brainers use their left brain ***and*** their right brains. Science extremists use only
    their left brain and attack those who may also use their right brains. I guess this makes left-
    brainers half-wits, just as right-brainers are half-wits.

    Cite some examples.

    le moo

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