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Xenophobia, or some such phobia

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  1. Any ism that fancies that it is the only way thinks that ALL those who
    see the value of many ways or other ways as being against them. For
    example, Muslim extremist think that if you are not with them that you
    are against them. If someone comes along and believes that Islam and
    Hinduism and Christianity, for example, all come from God, the Muslim
    extremists will want to kill that person. In the same way, Christian
    fundamentalists think that if you do not accept Jesus as the One and
    Only way, then you are with Satan and are going to go to hell for all
    eternity, even if you adore Jesus and accept his divinity.

    Well, guess what?!?! The debunkers are exactly the same. If you do
    not do the scientific way ***exclusively***, then you are anti-science
    and worthy of all manner of attacks. So, I guess we could call these
    debunkers "science extremists". I suppose next we can expect them to
    bomb the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, or perhaps the Vatican,
    or how about the building that holds the Holistic Health Association.
    There is no standard, no morality other than pushing their sciencism.
    Hurting others, lying, nothing is beneath them, except to push their
    sciencism agenda. They have basically thrown themselves at the feet
    of the Scientific Golden Calf. The Golden Rule, truth, justice,
    freedom, compassion, honesty, fair play, everything is subservient to
    their worship of science.

    Is this the secular religion that conservative Christians are always
    complaining about?

    Whole brainers use their left brain ***and*** their right brains.
    Science extremists use only their left brain and attack those who may
    also use their right brains. I guess this makes left-brainers
    half-wits, just as right-brainers are half-wits.

  2. "hotmoon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Any ism that fancies that it is the only way thinks that ALL those who
    see the value of many ways or other ways as being against them. For
    example, Muslim extremist think that if you are not with them that you
    are against them. If someone comes along and believes that Islam and
    Hinduism and Christianity, for example, all come from God, the Muslim
    extremists will want to kill that person. In the same way, Christian
    fundamentalists think that if you do not accept Jesus as the One and
    Only way, then you are with Satan and are going to go to hell for all
    eternity, even if you adore Jesus and accept his divinity.

    Well, guess what?!?! The debunkers are exactly the same. If you do
    not do the scientific way ***exclusively***, then you are anti-science
    and worthy of all manner of attacks.

    Then there are those who choose not to understand science, and thus do not
    understand how it differs from religion. The conflict here is between
    those who think that the questions alt.med testimonial and anecdote raise
    can be answered by the right kind of observation and testing, and those who
    think (religion-like) that they already have sure answers without going to
    all the bother.

    It is not clear why the latter should find contrary opinion so upsetting.
    Certainly this kind of complaint never proved any alternative valid, as most
    people do see the need to rule out all the possible mistaken impressions
    that give false impressions about the usefulness of medical treatments.
    Medical history is full of it.

    Peter Moran.

  3. "hotmoon" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Well, guess what?!?! The debunkers are exactly the same. If you do
    not do the scientific way ***exclusively***, then you are anti-science
    and worthy of all manner of attacks. So, I guess we could call these
    debunkers "science extremists". I suppose next we can expect them to
    bomb the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, or perhaps the Vatican,
    or how about the building that holds the Holistic Health Association.

    Roger, there's just no evidence that "debunkers" do this sort of stuff.

    Quoted message said:

    There is no standard, no morality other than pushing their sciencism.

    There shouldn't be any standard for evidence save the evidence. Speaking of
    which, do you have any recent evidence to support your claim that drinking
    cold water can kill you (or, at least, your wife). Do you have any evidence
    that your children have been poisioned by vaccines?

    Quoted message said:

    Is this the secular religion that conservative Christians are always
    complaining about?

    No.

    Quoted message said:


    Whole brainers use their left brain ***and*** their right brains.
    Science extremists use only their left brain and attack those who may
    also use their right brains. I guess this makes left-brainers
    half-wits, just as right-brainers are half-wits.

    Cite some examples.

    le moo

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