Wild Turkey 101-proof Rye

John Gaughan said:

notbob said:

Wild Turkey is one of the great American bourbons. It blows those other premium bourbons (Knob
Creek, Basil Hayden, etc) out of the water.

I think Knob Creek is much better than Wild Turkey. It has a much more mellow taste given the
proof. But this is coming from a guy whose favorite drink is Jack Daniels. I'm more into whiskey
than bourbon.

I just got gifted the last fourth of a fifth of KC, and it's my new favorite bourbon. It's going to
make me try the rest of Beam's specialty brands (Booker Noe's and the like).

I like the Wild Turkey 101 (in fact, I have a glass of it next to me right now). Knob Creek is a
little more smoky. Very nice. I used to dig JD, especially as a Jack-and-Coke. But then I discovered
good booze. Now, like McDonald's burgers, I won't waste my boozing opportunities on Jack.

Jack isn't bourbon, by the way. Jim Beam is. Jack is Tennessee Whiskey. They're both sour-mash corn
liquor based whiskeys. The difference, technically, is that Tennessee Whiskey gets an extra
filtering through white-sugar-maple charcoal. Even so, there are better Tennessees (George
Dickel's, et al).

--Blair "Mix with gusto."

Blair P. Houghton said:

Bacarcar?

Bacardi. 'Twas said one night in a drunken stupor and the name stuck...

~john!

Denise~* said:

She points to one & says. "this is the most popular, and the cheapest too!

First of all, cheap alcohol, for the most part, is cheap because it sucks. Some things such as
Captain Morgan are cheap and good (not the best but good), but those are rare. You get what
you pay for.

Second, my late uncle, a lifelong alcoholic, once gave me a tidbit of advice. He said that once you
become an alcoholic you cannot afford the good stuff anymore. That is why the cheap stuff sells well
-- when you drink a lot of it and have other problems in life caused by alcoholism, well, you
stretch your dollars as far as they will go.

If you want a good bourbon for cooking, grab some Jim Beam (white label). I consider it to be a
decent bourbon for drinking, but excellent for cooking. Some of the top-shelf bourbons taste great
but just don't work for cooking.

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Rick & Cyndi said:

I actually was introduced to Maker's Mark years ago (back in my

Me too. I abandoned JD for tequila and never looked back. Years later I tried to figure out what I
ever saw in JD. Horrible stuff. Much later, someone turned me on to MM, a brand I'd never heard
of. Bingo!

Quoted message said:

you'll *love* Maker's Mark.

Excellent stuff, no doubt.

Quoted message said:

M.M. is a lot smoother than both Jack D. and Wild Turkey.

Give WT Kentucky Spirit a try. Every bit as smooth as MM, and more character. It's pricey, about $50
per bottle, but oh man! The Scot's got nothing on good American whiskey.

nb

notbob said:

Rich McCormack said:

Bourbon whiskey must be made from at least 51% corn but can include other grains, such as wheat
and rye, for flavor. Rye whiskey must be made from at least 51% rye. Wild Turkey is a Bourbon
whiskey made with a significant amount of rye for flavor, but it is not a Rye whiskey.

Oh, and you were doing so good. Oh well, 3 outta 4 ain't bad. 🙂 Wild Turkey Rye ...green
neck seal.

Don't recall ever seeing Wild Turkey Rye back when I occasionally took a nip of whiskey now and
then. As I mentioned, I'm no expert on whiskey, as my wife discourages it. I remember when her
father (who also was known to take a nip or few of whiskey now and then) died many years ago, my brother-in-
law and I thought it appropriate to buy a flask of Wild Turkey and tuck it into in his jacket before
they closed the lid and buried him. Years later, I mentioned this to one of his relatives. He said
except for our choice of whiskey, it was a nice gesture. Apparently Joe didn't like Bourbon much and
preferred Canadian whiskey, which I think is mostly made from rye...but then what do I know. :-)

Jimmy Tango said:

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Quoted message said:

notbob said:

Wild Turkey is one of the great American bourbons. It blows those other premium bourbons (Knob
Creek, Basil Hayden, etc) out of the water.

I think Knob Creek is much better than Wild Turkey. It has a much more mellow taste given the
proof. But this is coming from a guy whose favorite drink is Jack Daniels. I'm more into whiskey
than bourbon.

What do you all think of Jameson?

I think it's a scotch ;-) The Subject was American Whiskeys and Bourbons (so far).

-sw

Jimmy Tango said:

What do you all think of Jameson?

Vile. But I have a bottle for use in irish car bombs.

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Rick & Cyndi said:

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: These bourbons are aged in french oak which have been charred.
This
: imparts the smoky vanilla flavors that these premium bourbons
have.
:
: However, Knob Creek, et cetera, have nothing to envy.
:
: I had the pleasure of visiting Makers Mark in Kentucky; it's
good, but
: not up to par with the premium ones.
:
: I don't recall Makers Mark having a "premium" brand, and always
wondered
: why they don't produce one.
:
: Cigar Aficionado had an excellent review on bourbons years ago.
:
: Richard
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That's interesting, about Maker's Mark. I feel just the opposite. Of course, that's why we each
have different tastes and why there are lots of distilleries... LOL

I actually was introduced to Maker's Mark years ago (back in my Service days) and then, several
years later I dated a fellow whose family lived in that neck of the woods. I was amazed at how
personable and friendly everyone at Maker's Mark was. Great tour.

Now, even though I know they're different, my comment to people trying M.M. for the first time is:
If you *like* Jack Daniel's, you'll *love* Maker's Mark. To me, YMMV, M.M. is a lot smoother than
both Jack D. and Wild Turkey. Before M.M., I was more of a Chivas Girl... now it's pretty much
just a glass of red wine or an occasional glass of scotch with a little milk... old age, ya know,
I need my calcium. <G>

I hope you note that when I was refering to premiums, I meant Wild Turkey RARE BREED (not the other
stuff which I liken to moonshine.) Also, when you refer to J. Daniels, are you talking about the
refined Gentleman Jack?

Richard

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In Richard Periut said:

Bourbon is whiskey! Not all whiskies are bourbon. They have to originate in Bourbon county Kentucky
to officially be called Bourbon.

Wild Turkey Bourbon is made in Anderson County, Maker's Mark in Marion County, and Virginia
Gentleman Bourbon is made in Virginia. There aren't any active distilleries in Bourbon
County, Kentucky.

Regards,
Greg
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Jimmy Tango said:

Quoted message said:

I think Knob Creek is much better than Wild Turkey. It has a much more mellow taste given the
proof. But this is coming from a guy whose favorite drink is Jack Daniels. I'm more into whiskey
than bourbon.

What do you all think of Jameson?

Like most Irish whiskeys, I think it is underrated. To my taste, it has a lot of the characteristics
of single malt scotch but at blended whiskey prices.

I just bought a bottle of it today. Not only do I like to drink Irish whiskey, but I make my own
Irish Cream with it aka Bailey's.

1/2 bottle Irish whiskey 1 can sweetened condensed milk 4 eggs 1 Tbsp. chocolate syrup

Mix in blender and give it a whiz. Can be stored in the fridge for 4 days they say, but it is not
likely to last that long.

notbob said:

Richard Periut said:

Cigar Aficionado had an excellent review on bourbons years ago.

Here you go:

straightbourbon.comtasting0001.htmlOpen ↗

I wonder if the rick-house mentioned in the first paragraph is the one that burned down earlier
this year.

Quoted message said:

I made a mistake when I said I like Rare Breed (the author's favorite, also). I meant WT Kentucky
Spirit. Rare Breed is a blend. Kentucky Spirit is single-barrel.

Drinking will do that to you.

--Blair "Now where'd I put my signature?"

Steve Wertz said:

Richard Periut said:

I don't recall Makers Mark having a "premium" brand, and always wondered why they don't
produce one.

What do the different colors of wax on the caps denote? Red and gold, maybe some silver, too.

They occasionally make a special batch, but they've taken to putting different colored wax on
bottles simply for collectibility reasons.

They've stuck pretty close to the single product, and if they're smart they'll stick to it in the
future, but you know MBA's, they're not really smart, and they all have something to prove that
nobody was questioning in the first place, so before long you'll probably see Maker's Mark start
putting out "single-barrel" and "founder's reserve" labels.

--Blair "There's better ways to lose your integrity."

Richard Periut said:

Bourbon is whiskey!

Correct, in the pedantic sense of the word. When I say "whiskey" I mean "whiskey that is not also
bourbon." And when I say that I prefer whiskey over bourbon, I mean I prefer non-bourbon whiskey
over bourbon whiskey. If I mean bourbon, I say "bourbon." Otherwise I say "whiskey" and refer to the
whiskeys that are not also bourbon.

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Greg Mortensen said:

Wild Turkey Bourbon is made in Anderson County, Maker's Mark in Marion County, and Virginia
Gentleman Bourbon is made in Virginia. There aren't any active distilleries in Bourbon County,
Kentucky.

I don't think that last bit is true; and if it is, it's a tragedy of national proportions.

--Blair "And a monster of a business opportunity."

John Gaughan said:

Jimmy Tango said:

What do you all think of Jameson?

Vile. But I have a bottle for use in irish car bombs.

Speaking of vile, I can't think of a more reprehensible name for anything than "Car Bomb".

--Blair "Couldn't just call it the 'Dublin night out'?"

John Gaughan said:

First of all, cheap alcohol, for the most part, is cheap because it sucks. Some things such as
Captain Morgan are cheap and good (not the best but good), but those are rare. You get what you
pay for.

I tend to agree, but that is not a hard and fast rule. First of all, alcohol is taxed at a pretty
steep rate in most places, so most of the sticker price on a bottle of booze is taxes. Then there is
the cost of marketing. Bacardi is one of the top selling rums. My wife and a good friend of hers
both like white rum, but not Bacardi. In fact, my wife would rather not have rum if Bacardi is all
there is. Place of production is also a factor.

Wine from some countries is generally much cheaper than others, and there is a remarkable savings in
buying them, especially in the low end varieties. I regularly buy a cheap Hungarian white wine. At
$6.25 a bottle it is a steal. It's a lot cheaper than the low end local wines and most of the other
low end European wines. It's really not bad stuff.

Advertising is a major factor in beer sales. I usually by Danish beers rather than the domestic
stuff. They are competitively priced and excellent quality. At least, they please my palate.

Greg Mortensen said:

In Richard Periut said:

Bourbon is whiskey! Not all whiskies are bourbon. They have to originate in Bourbon county
Kentucky to officially be called Bourbon.

Wild Turkey Bourbon is made in Anderson County, Maker's Mark in Marion County, and Virginia
Gentleman Bourbon is made in Virginia. There aren't any active distilleries in Bourbon County,
Kentucky.

Regards,
Greg

I stand corrected; I should of mentioned that this was the case back then. Now a days, it can only
be bourbon if made in Kentucky.

Please check out:

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Regards,

Richard

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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:17:00 GMT, Rich McCormack <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Don't recall ever seeing Wild Turkey Rye back when I occasionally

took a nip of whiskey now and then. As I mentioned, I'm no expert on whiskey, as my wife
discourages it. I remember when her father (who also was known to take a nip or few of whiskey now
and then) died many years ago, my brother-in-law and I thought it appropriate to buy a flask of
Wild Turkey and tuck it into in his jacket before they closed the lid and buried him. Years later,
I mentioned this to one of his relatives. He said except for our choice of whiskey, it was a nice
gesture. Apparently Joe didn't like Bourbon much and preferred Canadian whiskey, which I think is
mostly made from rye...but then what do I know. :-)

it's the thought that counts.

your pal, blake

John Gaughan said:

Jimmy Tango said:

What do you all think of Jameson?

Vile. But I have a bottle for use in irish car bombs.

is jameson the prod whiskey or is it the other one?

your pal, blake

Blair P. Houghton said:

Quoted message said:

Vile. But I have a bottle for use in irish car bombs.

Speaking of vile, I can't think of a more reprehensible name for anything than "Car Bomb".

Oh but they are so good. And about five minutes after you are done, it hits you like its namesake.

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