Why Won't The Doctors Work?

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I found an article at cancer-prevention.net , & have rewritten & altered
this part (about doctors) some:

[Withholding Information and/or Lying To Patients]: The doctor couldn't tell his patients, about any
alternative or integrative health therapies, and stay employed at his cancer clinic.

[Medical Monopolies & Racketeering]: Insurance regulations would preclude such suggestions. And the
doctor could get into trouble by recommending non-drug treatments for cancer.

His advice is controlled by a large medical industry, that makes mega-money off expensive cancer-
fighting drugs and treatments. [that is, the PHARMA lobby & cancer centers]

[No Patent, No Profits]: The medical industry doesn't look favorably on natural supplements or other
cancer treatments, ... as they cannot patent (or make as much profit) on them.

[Bad/Wrong Training, & Bad Products]: Another reason why doctors ignore the alternative &
integrative treatments for cancer, and why they recommend costly and illogical treatments instead --
is human nature. They advise and prescribe what they are trained in. It is what they know. [due to
the PHARMA industry's current influence, power & control, over medical schools.]

You go to them and you get what you ask for -- what they know. And you assume they will do, the best
they can for you, ... while in fact, they just do what the system teaches them, promotes, and allows
them to do.

Bottom line: Don't expect a doctor working inside the system, to buck the system. The risks are
too great.

[Everything the docs have, can be taken away quickly by the medical industry.]

PM ----Well, all this only works if alternatives are known to actually do anything much for cancer.
Prove that, and all will change. So far the track record for even the most strongly hyped
alternative treatments of cancer has been abysmal.

Peter Moran

Peter wrote:

PM ----Well, all this only works if alternatives are known to actually do anything much for cancer.
Prove that, and all will change. So far the track record for even the most strongly hyped
alternative treatments of cancer has been abysmal. Peter Moran

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There are already many tests (blood, urine, etc., such as those at gsdl.comgsdl.comOpen ↗ ), that I
feel could dramatically improve medical studies & care, IF they were being used. [This testing
should become a requirement in clinical trials.]

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Mineral Levels

Checking the mineral-levels/etc in the body, can help indicate what is wrong, ... & what treatments
the docs might order to help correct them.

[Such as, I've read that high copper levels can indicate high risk of mets, spread of cancer.
Molybdenum can help bring down the copper, & prevent or better control mets.

High manganese levels can exhibit as Alzheimer's/Parkinson's-type symptoms. When you bring this
level down, it can help control the symptoms, & slow or prevent further damage.

These tests are simple, as are these treatments. There seems no reason not to try them, should the
patient request them.

The alternative is watching a patient suffer to death horribly, because they were forced to accept &
pay for the standard/govt-approved cr*p-care only.

This is pre-meditated, cold-blooded murder. The fact that it's govt-sanctioned, approved & enforced,
does Not matter. It's still morally reprehensible, wrong.]

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Fewer Bad Meds?

Once these high mineral-levels/etc are tested for & confirmed, then they can be treated, ... & not
with the just the hit-and-miss one-size-fits-all symptom-type pills & poisons.

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Lack Of Good Research

There probably won't be much if any profit$ made on the drugs/supplements/etc, which are used to
treat mineral imbalances (such as copper or manganese), or the amino acid imbalances, ...

... so I think the good testing is deliberately Not being used in research studies, so that these
imbalances won't be identified or validated in those studies.

[The lack of good testing, would seem to make the research study results much less valid, less
scientific, less valued. ???]

These tests could also help determine why a treatment or drug, did or didn't work for each patient.
Or why it killed the patient.

It's important to have exact information to work with (from good testing), ... so that the docs
don't keep forcing us to buy & try one bad medicine & treatment after another, so they don't keep
harming & almost killing us, when we're forced to seek medical care.

Maybe later on, if the researchers could start testing the DNA of their subjects (& the doctors test
DNA of their patients), ... & comparing this with results & reactions to drugs & treatments, ...
then that could help too.

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The Importance Of Good Testing

In the meantime, if the docs would just check the mineral levels, & maybe a few other things (like
amino acid balance?) in cancer patients, .. & if they would collate this data, ... then this might
help a great deal in determining exactly what's wrong, & which treatments to use. And it could
greatly improve cancer & other medical care.

There's no reason Not to do this (other than the govt controls, which we need to get changed).

It's easy, logical, practical, & the right thing to do.

Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

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Quoted message said:

Peter wrote:

PM ----Well, all this only works if alternatives are known to actually do anything much for
cancer. Prove that, and all will change. So far the track record for even the most strongly hyped
alternative treatments of cancer has been abysmal. Peter Moran

==========

There are already many tests (blood, urine, etc., such as those at gsdl.comgsdl.comOpen ↗ ), that I
feel could dramatically improve medical studies & care, IF they were being used. [This testing
should become a requirement in clinical trials.]

------------

Mineral Levels

Checking the mineral-levels/etc in the body, can help indicate what is wrong, ... & what
treatments the docs might order to help correct them.

[Such as, I've read that high copper levels can indicate high risk of mets, spread of cancer.
Molybdenum can help bring down the copper, & prevent or better control mets.

High manganese levels can exhibit as Alzheimer's/Parkinson's-type symptoms. When you bring this
level down, it can help control the symptoms, & slow or prevent further damage.

These tests are simple, as are these treatments. There seems no reason not to try them, should the
patient request them.

The alternative is watching a patient suffer to death horribly, because they were forced to accept
& pay for the standard/govt-approved cr*p-care only.

This is pre-meditated, cold-blooded murder. The fact that it's govt-sanctioned, approved &
enforced, does Not matter. It's still morally reprehensible, wrong.]

--------------

Fewer Bad Meds?

Once these high mineral-levels/etc are tested for & confirmed, then they can be treated, ... & not
with the just the hit-and-miss one-size-fits-all symptom-type pills & poisons.

--------------

Lack Of Good Research

There probably won't be much if any profit$ made on the drugs/supplements/etc, which are used to
treat mineral imbalances (such as copper or manganese), or the amino acid imbalances, ...

... so I think the good testing is deliberately Not being used in research studies, so that these
imbalances won't be identified or validated in those studies.

[The lack of good testing, would seem to make the research study results much less valid, less
scientific, less valued. ???]

These tests could also help determine why a treatment or drug, did or didn't work for each
patient. Or why it killed the patient.

It's important to have exact information to work with (from good testing), ... so that the docs
don't keep forcing us to buy & try one bad medicine & treatment after another, so they don't keep
harming & almost killing us, when we're forced to seek medical care.

Maybe later on, if the researchers could start testing the DNA of their subjects (& the doctors
test DNA of their patients), ... & comparing this with results & reactions to drugs & treatments,
... then that could help too.

------------

The Importance Of Good Testing

In the meantime, if the docs would just check the mineral levels, & maybe a few other things (like
amino acid balance?) in cancer patients, .. & if they would collate this data, ... then this might
help a great deal in determining exactly what's wrong, & which treatments to use. And it could
greatly improve cancer & other medical care.

What make you think this ground hasn't been gone over again and again? We know enough about the
nature and causes of cancer to know that correcting a simple deficiency of anything is not going to
help cure it. Most deficiencies in cancer patients e.g. of iron are an effect of the cancer rather
than having any role in its cause.

Quoted message said:

There's no reason Not to do this (other than the govt controls, which we need to get changed).

It's easy, logical, practical, & the right thing to do.

Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

Yes, they are opinions, not plausible theory, or even reasonable conjectures.. Do you not see that
no evidence is being put forwards for any of the claims you are quoting?

Peter Moran.

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Quoted message said:

Hi Peter,

Maybe the focus shouldn't be so much on a cure, as on better controlling the cancer, ... & on
improving the quality of care & life for cancer patients, for victims of such as sleazy medical
system, ... instead of just sadistically conning, robbing, & harming us over & over.

If you say that these tests have already been done & the treatments tried, ... then where are the
results of the ones done on mineral levels & imbalances, on amino acid levels & imbalances, ... &
on the results of treating these?

This is old history. People have been trying to influence the course of cancer using through mineral
supplementation and nutritional means for hundreds of years (any reasonable amount of protein in the
diet will provide all the amino acids).

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Somehow, I doubt they've been done.

Most illness is chronic, such as cancer. There probably won't be any cures.

Since the current medical treatments do Not work & offer NO hope, ... then why are patients being
force to try them first, to waste so much time, effort, & money on them? Why can't we have some
choice, in trying something we think might work?

I'm very angry & hurt, that the "modern medical system" seems so backwards, ... so morally &
mentally retarded, so revoltingly & disgustingly awful, painful & horrible, expensive & wasteful,
... has so little to offer, & so much of it so extremely harmful.

The British National Health Service is as far away from the American health system as it is possible
to get, but it adheres to exactly the same kinds of cancer treatment. You would encounter the same
lack of interest (Probably more ) in your theories on cancer there.

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We've been super-lied-to & betrayed. There's no reason that so much govt money, should keep going
into such a failed & harmful system, ... which has nothing of value to offer, & which only keeps
pushing the expensive cr*p-type drugs like antidepressants. None.

I've worked extremely hard to get & keep the best insurance, & that should be worth something.

I've worked very hard to cooperate with (& survive) the current standard cr*p-care for cancer.

And I do now deserve a chance for the good bloodwork & testing. I do deserve a chance to fight
this cancer on my own terms, & to win for a while. I refuse to let the bad docs, take that away
from me.

I don't deserve to be conned, robbed & harmed, & murdered like this, by the won't-work docs & the
failed medical system.

I'm very hopeful, that the American people will get angry & fed-up enough, to rip the govt &
medical care system apart, to tear it to pieces, ... & then put it back together again, so
it works.

Because right now, we've got nothing of value in it.

Are you feeling better now? Do you have cancer? Tell us about it.

Peter Moran