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Why use is not abuse

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  1. Neurosci Biobehav Rev. 2003 Nov;27(7):615-21. Related Articles, Links

    Serum and brain concentrations of methylphenidate: implications for use and abuse.

    Swanson JM, Volkow ND.

    UCI: Child Development Center, University of California, 19722 MacArthur Boulevard, Irvine, CA 92612-
    4480, USA. [email hidden]

    When used to treat children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, methylphenidate (MPH)
    acts primarily by blocking the dopamine (DA) transporter (DAT) and increasing extracellular DA in
    the striatum. This is strikingly similar to the mechanism of action of cocaine, a primary stimulant
    drug of abuse. When administered intravenously, MPH like cocaine has reinforcing effects (euphoria)
    at doses that exceed a DAT blockade threshold of 60%. When administered orally at clinical doses,
    the pharmacological effects of MPH also exceed this threshold, but reinforcing effects rarely occur.
    Here we discuss the pharmacokinetic properties of MPH in serum (and in brain) that differ for oral
    and intravenous routes of administration and the importance of acute tolerance in determining
    pharmacodynamic effects in clinical use and illegal abuse. We suggest that intravenous
    administration of MPH mimics the rapid phasic cell firing of DA neurons, which may be a critical
    factor associated with reinforcing effects and abuse, while oral administration of MPH mimics the
    tonic DA cell firing, which may be a critical factor associated with clinical effects.

    PMID: 14624806 [PubMed - in process]

  2. Quoted message said:

    When used to treat children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, methylphenidate (MPH)
    acts primarily by blocking the dopamine (DA) transporter (DAT) and increasing extracellular DA in
    the striatum. This is strikingly similar to the mechanism of action of cocaine, a primary
    stimulant drug of abuse. When administered intravenously, MPH like cocaine has reinforcing effects
    (euphoria) at doses that exceed a DAT blockade

    Hello,

    Lately, I have been forced to try a more different way of dosing concerta. This is intermittent
    dosing. This means I will solutate the shell with 22% fast release methylphenidate in water and
    leave the hole with slow release dry. Dosing this way will prevent the release of epinephrine
    (adrenaline) and thus prevent appitite induction. This will also reduce losing weight (reducing
    epinephrine and glucogon release). (which are released from the ANS: autonomic nervous system)
    However, I am more interested if this will produce an anti-rebound effect (rebound will not occur)
    and anti-tolerance effect. Seems that dosing stimulants very fast may be addictive (which would
    not be the case with methylphenidate) and may produce tolerance. More stimulants are needed to
    produce the same effect. Now with intermittent dosing the dose will be released very slowly and
    after 5,5 hours concerta will reach max plasma concentrations in which the methylphenidate will be
    cleared rapidly, moving thought the plasma being metabolised by the liver. I wonder if this might
    reverse tolerance effects thus producing anti-tolerance effects and enhancing stimulant effects in
    a more safe way?

    Any ideas?

    Steven, The Netherlands.

  3. "anoniem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
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    When used to treat children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity


    Disorder,

    Quoted message said:
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    methylphenidate (MPH) acts primarily by blocking the dopamine (DA) transporter (DAT) and
    increasing extracellular DA in the striatum. This


    is

    Quoted message said:
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    strikingly similar to the mechanism of action of cocaine, a primary stimulant drug of abuse.
    When administered intravenously, MPH like


    cocaine

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    has reinforcing effects (euphoria) at doses that exceed a DAT blockade

    Hello,

    Not to be a nitpicker, but, you selectively snipped the original post and clearly changed
    the meaning.

    .

  4. Quoted message said:

    Not to be a nitpicker, but, you selectively snipped the original post and clearly changed the
    meaning.

    I'm sorry, being dutch, I don't understand how things work around here. Trying to use a more
    uniformal language such as english, I have trouble reading your difficult texts that are in these
    such advanced posts. Leaving me with such difficulty reading these posts, I have not respected any
    unwritten rules that are present within this newsgroup. I don't understand the phrase I snipped
    either. Perhaps you can translate it to Dutch.

  5. "anoniem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not to be a nitpicker, but, you selectively snipped the original post


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    clearly changed the meaning.

    I'm sorry, being dutch, I don't understand how things work around here. Trying to use a more
    uniformal language such as english, I have trouble reading your difficult texts that are in these
    such advanced posts. Leaving me with such difficulty reading these posts, I have not respected any
    unwritten rules that are present within this newsgroup. I don't understand the phrase I snipped
    either. Perhaps you can translate it to Dutch.

    Try www.freetranslation.com and see what you get. Sometimes it provides a decent translation.
    Sometimes, not.

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