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Why use is not abuse

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  1. Neurosci Biobehav Rev. 2003 Nov;27(7):615-21. Related Articles, Links

    Serum and brain concentrations of methylphenidate: implications for use and
    abuse.

    Swanson JM, Volkow ND.

    UCI: Child Development Center, University of California, 19722 MacArthur
    Boulevard, Irvine, CA 92612-4480, USA. [email hidden]

    When used to treat children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder,
    methylphenidate (MPH) acts primarily by blocking the dopamine (DA)
    transporter (DAT) and increasing extracellular DA in the striatum. This is
    strikingly similar to the mechanism of action of cocaine, a primary
    stimulant drug of abuse. When administered intravenously, MPH like cocaine
    has reinforcing effects (euphoria) at doses that exceed a DAT blockade
    threshold of 60%. When administered orally at clinical doses, the
    pharmacological effects of MPH also exceed this threshold, but reinforcing
    effects rarely occur. Here we discuss the pharmacokinetic properties of MPH
    in serum (and in brain) that differ for oral and intravenous routes of
    administration and the importance of acute tolerance in determining
    pharmacodynamic effects in clinical use and illegal abuse. We suggest that
    intravenous administration of MPH mimics the rapid phasic cell firing of DA
    neurons, which may be a critical factor associated with reinforcing effects
    and abuse, while oral administration of MPH mimics the tonic DA cell firing,
    which may be a critical factor associated with clinical effects.

    PMID: 14624806 [PubMed - in process]

  2. Quoted message said:

    When used to treat children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder,
    methylphenidate (MPH) acts primarily by blocking the dopamine (DA)
    transporter (DAT) and increasing extracellular DA in the striatum. This is
    strikingly similar to the mechanism of action of cocaine, a primary
    stimulant drug of abuse. When administered intravenously, MPH like cocaine
    has reinforcing effects (euphoria) at doses that exceed a DAT blockade

    Hello,

    Lately, I have been forced to try a more different way of dosing
    concerta.
    This is intermittent dosing. This means I will solutate the shell with
    22%
    fast release methylphenidate in water and leave the hole with slow
    release
    dry. Dosing this way will prevent the release of epinephrine
    (adrenaline)
    and thus prevent appitite induction. This will also reduce losing
    weight
    (reducing epinephrine and glucogon release). (which are released from
    the ANS: autonomic nervous system) However, I am more interested
    if this will produce an anti-rebound effect (rebound will not occur)
    and
    anti-tolerance effect. Seems that dosing stimulants very fast may be
    addictive (which would not be the case with methylphenidate) and may
    produce
    tolerance. More stimulants are needed to produce the same effect. Now
    with
    intermittent dosing the dose will be released very slowly and after
    5,5
    hours concerta will reach max plasma concentrations in which the
    methylphenidate will be cleared rapidly, moving thought the plasma
    being
    metabolised by the liver. I wonder if this might reverse tolerance
    effects
    thus producing anti-tolerance effects and enhancing stimulant effects
    in a
    more safe way?

    Any ideas?

    Steven, The Netherlands.

  3. "anoniem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When used to treat children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity


    Disorder,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    methylphenidate (MPH) acts primarily by blocking the dopamine (DA)
    transporter (DAT) and increasing extracellular DA in the striatum. This


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    strikingly similar to the mechanism of action of cocaine, a primary
    stimulant drug of abuse. When administered intravenously, MPH like


    cocaine

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    has reinforcing effects (euphoria) at doses that exceed a DAT blockade

    Hello,

    Not to be a nitpicker, but, you selectively snipped the original post and
    clearly changed the meaning.

    ..

  4. Quoted message said:

    Not to be a nitpicker, but, you selectively snipped the original post and
    clearly changed the meaning.

    I'm sorry, being dutch, I don't understand how things work around
    here. Trying to use a more uniformal language such as english, I have
    trouble reading your difficult texts that are in these such advanced
    posts. Leaving me with such difficulty reading these posts, I have not
    respected any unwritten rules that are present within this newsgroup.
    I don't understand the phrase I snipped either. Perhaps you can
    translate it to Dutch.

  5. "anoniem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not to be a nitpicker, but, you selectively snipped the original post


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    clearly changed the meaning.

    I'm sorry, being dutch, I don't understand how things work around
    here. Trying to use a more uniformal language such as english, I have
    trouble reading your difficult texts that are in these such advanced
    posts. Leaving me with such difficulty reading these posts, I have not
    respected any unwritten rules that are present within this newsgroup.
    I don't understand the phrase I snipped either. Perhaps you can
    translate it to Dutch.

    Try www.freetranslation.com and see what you get. Sometimes it provides a
    decent translation. Sometimes, not.

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