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Why is my Dura Ace headset so tight?

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  1. I had a shop remove a Super Record HS from a lovely 1983 Marinoni Special and install a Dura
    Ace 7400 HS.

    I installed the DA stem and tightened up the HS. If I just snug up the top cup so the steering is
    nice and easy, the fork moves in the steerer and I can see the top cup move. If I go tighter on the
    cup so the fork don't move, steering gets really hard.

    Whatsa matter here? --Do I have the dust seals in backward? I have the angled face towards the
    bearings --races and/or lower cup not seated properly? I assume the steerer tube was properly faced
    as the frame came with the Record HS installed.

    Please post replies to the list.

    Thanks.

    Jan Pinkowish

  2. Jpinkowish said:

    I had a shop remove a Super Record HS from a lovely 1983 Marinoni Special and install a Dura Ace
    7400 HS.

    I installed the DA stem and tightened up the HS.

    Wait a minute! If the shop installed the headset, why are you messing with it? You should have just
    installed the stem.

    Quoted message said:

    If I just snug up the top cup so the steering is nice and easy, the fork moves in the steerer

    The steerer is part of the fork; it can't move relative to the fork. I think you mean the
    steerer/fork rotates within the headtube (as it should).

    Quoted message said:

    and I can see the top cup move. If I go tighter on the cup so the fork don't move, steering gets
    really hard.

    Are you tightening the locknut against the upper cup? You need to be very careful as it's VERY easy
    to get the HS too tight (and quickly end up with indexed steering). You want to start with the
    adjustment a little loose. Tighten the locknut while holding the upper cup with a headset wrench.
    Squeeze the front brake, and rock the bike while listening for clunking noises (indicates HS too
    loose). Then readjust in very small increments until the clunking just disappears. But the shop
    should have done this when they installed the HS.

    Quoted message said:

    I assume the steerer tube was properly faced as the frame came with the Record HS installed.

    You mean the fork crown and headtube; the steerer tube does not get faced.

    Take it back to the shop that installed the HS!

    Art Harris

  3. jpinkowski-<< Whatsa matter here? --Do I have the dust seals in backward? I have the angled face
    towards the bearings --races and/or lower cup not seated properly? >><BR><BR>

    Either the dustseals or the bearings may be upside down...

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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    Quoted message said:

    jpinkowski-<< Whatsa matter here? --Do I have the dust seals in backward? I have the angled face
    towards the bearings --races and/or lower cup not seated properly? >><BR><BR>

    Either the dustseals or the bearings may be upside down...

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

    Dear Peter,

    I (modest cough) once replaced the dished front wheels of a 1941 Dodge Army ambulance backwards. The
    wide track wasn't visible until I noticed some mechanics laughing and stepped far enough away from
    the damned thing to see my folly.

    Carl Fogel

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