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  1. Jeff Liebermann said:

    Veronique <[email hidden]> hath wroth:

    Quoted message said:
    Mark Lipton said:

    Taste and texture. White asparagus tends to be a bit softer and less
    woody than the green and it has a subtler, less "green" flavor (less
    bitter for some). I love the green, but if you want to drink wine with
    the meal, white is far easier on wine than green is (which tends to
    impart bitter flavors to any wine drunk with it).


    I wonder what the difference is nutritionally.

    "Comparison of textural and compositional attributes of green and
    white asparagus produced under commercial conditions"
    <http://www.springerlink.com/content/p82433825v176g88/>

    The white spears were more fibrous, contained more nitrates,
    less ascorbic acid and total soluble phenols and had a lower
    pH than the green spears.

    Hmmm... apparently they claim that white is more "woody" than green.
    Which is correct?

    The white spears have less vitamin C then? After a quick google, a
    couple sites noted that white asparagus was less nutritious than
    green, but the only breakdowns I could find were for green. One site
    said that green asparagus was a good source of Vitamin C and folate
    and moderate amounts of vitamin A, E, potassium and small amounts of
    iron, while "white asparagus is less nutritious than green." I would
    imagine the vitamin A levels would be lower.

    I love green asparagus and having had white asparagus, I kinda don't
    seen the point in a blander, less nutrional version.

    V.
    --
    Veronique Chez Sheep

  2. Veronique said:

    I love green asparagus and having had white asparagus, I kinda don't
    seen the point in a blander, less nutrional version.

    Same here. I understand white asparagus is very popular in Belgium
    where bland food predominates.

    Asparagus, BTW, is a high-protein food -- 60% protein calories.
    If you ate volumetric quantities of asparagus, you could meet
    most of your protein needs.

    Steve

  3. Tony Lima said:
    Quoted message said:

    night. I misunderstood. I thought it was 26 DM but as it turned out, when
    you ordered the 26 DM asparagus dish the veal side dish was an extra 10
    DM. But et me tell you it was a honking big serving of asparagus. They was
    close to a pound of the stuff on the plate.

    What's a "DM?" <ggg>. Must have been quite a while since
    you were in Germany! - Tony

    Deutschmark. The last time I was there was 2001, just before they switched
    to the Euro. With the exchange rate at the time it would have worked out to
    about $14 for the asparagus.

  4. Steve Pope said:


    Quoted message said:

    I love green asparagus and having had white asparagus, I kinda don't
    seen the point in a blander, less nutrional version.

    Same here. I understand white asparagus is very popular in Belgium
    where bland food predominates.

    Asparagus, BTW, is a high-protein food -- 60% protein calories.
    If you ate volumetric quantities of asparagus, you could meet
    most of your protein needs.

    I only spent 2 1/2 days in Belgium but I would not have thought to call
    their food bland. It was not heavily spiced but they had a way of cooking
    things with wonderful taste and texture without having to augment it with a
    lot of spices.

  5. The Ranger said:

    I was at the grocery store today and saw (much to my surprise)
    white asparagus for US$6.99 per bunch.

    What's a "bunch", by weight? Here, the price is very much dependent on
    the time in the season. The later, the cheaper. It also depends on the
    quality and on the thickness of the spears... the thinner, the cheaper,
    for the same weight. (This latter criterion makes no sense, as far as I
    am concerned, at least as long as the asparagus is used for the culinary
    purposes, and I actually prefer medium-thick asparagus.) The typical
    price range is 3-8 euros per kilo (2.2 pounds), somewhat higher than for
    green asparagus, but not by all that much.

    I've been nearly overdosing on white asparagus this season, but I've
    been eating some green stuff as well. Germany goes crazy in the season,
    with most restaurants serving asparagus dishes, and with people cooking
    it at home and inviting each other for Spargelessen.

    Quoted message said:

    Aside from the missing
    green, why would anyone buy this stuff? What's the appeal?

    Taste. Please disregard anything people tell you about white asparagus
    being similar to green, just more delicate in taste. This is nonsense.
    White and green asparagus could as well be different vegetables
    altogether. The green stuff somewhat resembles green beans and broccoli
    in taste. None of this resemblance is found in white asparagus, which
    has a taste all of its own, a taste that is actually more intensive.

    White and green asparagus are the same plant and if you grow what is
    supposed to be white asparagus above ground, it will become green, and
    the "green" asparagus grown underground or under a black plastic cover
    will become white. That said, they are actually different varieties and
    this becomes apparent by comparing their thickness, with the white
    asparagus stems being generally rather thicker. Green asparagus does
    not always have to be peeled, and when it does, then generally only a
    little. White asparagus requires to be peeled - and often a lot of the
    stems have to be peeled off, to get rid of the woodiness. If one does
    not very carefully peel it, it ends up stringy, with the strings
    sticking between one's teeth. The sometimes woody ends of the stems
    have to be cut off. The peels are either dicarded, or they can be used
    for preparing broth for the asparagus soup.

    White and green asparagus cannot be always cooked in the same way. The
    white stuff is almost never grilled or baked. It is boiled or steamed,
    generally for between 6-10 minutes, depending on its thickness and the
    manner of cooking. I use the tall, narrow asparagus steamer with an
    interior wire basket. Bringing water to boil in it takes forever and is
    a very inefficient use of energy, so I boil water separately in a 3.000
    W electric kettle, fill the steamer and cook the asparagus therein. To
    the water, I add some salt, a teaspoonful of sugar and a splash of lemon
    juice. I serve asparagus with either Hollandaise or Béarnaise sauce,
    but a lot of people prefer just melted butter. Ham of some kind (often
    of several different kinds) served on the side is very popular here, but
    I prefer good smoked salmon or gravad lachs. Boiled potatoes are also
    popular; I prefer to leave them out.

    BTW, I have read somewhere that at least some of the asparagus grown in
    the USA, particularly California, may be a different variety, designed
    to withstand much higher average temperatures than those usual in
    European asparagus-growing regions. So, the taste might well be
    different. I wouldn't know, as I have never tasted American-grown white
    asparagus.

    Victor

  6. Dave Smith said:
    jmcquown said:

    Isn't it funny how many things were only trotted out for "holidays"? Mom
    usually didn't serve asparagus (canned, of course) unless it was Easter.

    Maybe she viewed it a traditional Easter food because it came into season
    around Easter. It is one of the first spring veggies to enjoy.


    <clip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    At my age I'm
    wondering, is there some food calendar I don't know about that says, "Thou
    Shalt Not"?!

    My food calendar is the seasons of the local fruits and vegetables. They
    always taste so much better than the imported products.

    it wasn't really until the past 25 or so years that such a variety of
    food could be had out of "our" own seasons at such a reasonable cost as
    it is nowadays. Things our parents only knew of "in season" or "at a
    very dear price" are common place to us. It isn't hard to imagine why
    asparagus would be eaten at Easter-it was in season!

  7. "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    it wasn't really until the past 25 or so years that such a variety of food
    could be had out of "our" own seasons at such a reasonable cost as it is
    nowadays. Things our parents only knew of "in season" or "at a very dear
    price" are common place to us. It isn't hard to imagine why asparagus
    would be eaten at Easter-it was in season!

    Or in a can.

    nancy

  8. Tony Lima said:
    Quoted message said:

    They do love their white asparagus, and it isn't cheap. I saw it in the
    market for about $10 per pound. I ordered dinner off the Spargle menu one
    night. I misunderstood. I thought it was 26 DM but as it turned out, when
    you ordered the 26 DM asparagus dish the veal side dish was an extra 10
    DM. But et me tell you it was a honking big serving of asparagus. They was
    close to a pound of the stuff on the plate.

    What's a "DM?" <ggg>. Must have been quite a while since
    you were in Germany! - Tony

    And the DM came before the number, i.e. DM10.
    Same as the dollar symbol. I'm always amazed when grown Americans type
    10$ perhaps because they say "ten dollars" but aren't literate enough to
    know how to write it.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    jmcquown said:

    I don't want some muted
    version that costs twice as much. Doesn't make sense. If you don't like
    asparagus don't buy it.

    I agree, but this seems to be some sort of trend: white peaches, white
    nectarines, white pineapple -- all somehow less flavorful than the
    yellow version. (Ok, I take that back about the white pineapple -- it
    really was luscious).

    Roberta
    --
    Roberta Millstein
    [email hidden]
    Remove "spamaway" to reply

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  10. Dave Smith said:
    Steve Pope said:
    Quoted message said:

    I love green asparagus and having had white asparagus, I kinda don't
    seen the point in a blander, less nutrional version.


    Same here. I understand white asparagus is very popular in Belgium
    where bland food predominates.

    Asparagus, BTW, is a high-protein food -- 60% protein calories.
    If you ate volumetric quantities of asparagus, you could meet
    most of your protein needs.

    I only spent 2 1/2 days in Belgium but I would not have thought to call
    their food bland. It was not heavily spiced but they had a way of cooking
    things with wonderful taste and texture without having to augment it with a
    lot of spices.

    I agree. I have worked in Brussels several times and I loved the food.
    I won't say it is true in this case, but sometimes I think the highly
    spiced Tex Mex and Szechuan type spicings alters the perception of other
    cuisines. Someone recently told me they found Italian food bland on a
    trip to Italy; bland, but they loved it. What is true is that very few
    dishes are spicy hot and those in particular areas.

    In Belgium I loved the buttery richness, the herbed mixtures of
    vegetables, the use of uncommon in the US ingredients.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  11. Victor Sack wrote:
    I serve asparagus with either Hollandaise or Béarnaise sauce,

    Quoted message said:

    but a lot of people prefer just melted butter. Ham of some kind (often
    of several different kinds) served on the side is very popular here, but
    I prefer good smoked salmon or gravad lachs. Boiled potatoes are also
    popular; I prefer to leave them out.

    BTW, I have read somewhere that at least some of the asparagus grown in
    the USA, particularly California, may be a different variety, designed
    to withstand much higher average temperatures than those usual in
    European asparagus-growing regions. So, the taste might well be
    different. I wouldn't know, as I have never tasted American-grown white
    asparagus.

    Victor

    When I went to visit a friend in Germany the one meal we ate at home was
    enormous amounts of white asparagus with boiled potatoes, brown bread
    and pickles. Melted butter was served. It was one of those dedications
    to the local ambience occasions. It was superb. I'd eaten it before,
    not in the US, but this starring role was splendid.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, Nancy Young
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Asparagus really isn't my thing, though I had some last night,
    so I really don't have an opinion. Shocking, I know.

    I ate some last night, too! Fried in organic butter, served with salmon
    fillets poached in champagne, it was very tasty.

    Quoted message said:

    People say they can taste the difference, I thought that was
    interesting.

    I certainly could tell the difference afterward on my first few trips to
    the bathroom. A friend once said 'you can tell it's spring when your
    [censored] stinks of asparagus'.

    I prefer green to white, which I think has hardly any taste, and like it
    with grilled food such as barbecued meat. But I hardly ever have
    barbecues except when I'm on vacation in Spain, where it seems the only
    kind available is white, usually in brine in jars or cans.
    --
    congokid
    Eating out in London? Read my tips...
    http://congokid.com

  13. "congokid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Nancy Young <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Asparagus really isn't my thing, though I had some last night,
    so I really don't have an opinion. Shocking, I know.

    I ate some last night, too! Fried in organic butter, served
    with salmon fillets poached in champagne, it was very tasty.

    Quoted message said:

    People say they can taste the difference, I thought that was
    interesting.

    I certainly could tell the difference afterward on my first
    few trips to the bathroom. A friend once said 'you can tell
    it's spring when your [censored] stinks of asparagus'.

    I prefer green to white, which I think has hardly any taste,
    and like it with grilled food such as barbecued meat. But I
    hardly ever have barbecues except when I'm on vacation in
    Spain, where it seems the only kind available is white,
    usually in brine in jars or cans.
    --


    My own preference, perhaps conditioned by childhood experience,
    is for white both in asparagus and celery. The Germans have the
    right idea about what constitutes a serving of asparagus
    compared with the piddling amounts customary here. Years ago,
    when I lived in Washington DC, I used to really enjoy the
    "asparagus feasts" at the well-established Old Europe
    restaurant.

    Canned or bottled asparagus is an abomination, IMHO :-)

    --
    Jim Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

  14. On Jul 6, 5:22 am, "James Silverton" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    The Germans have the
    right idea about what constitutes a serving of asparagus
    compared with the piddling amounts customary here.

    Italians do a pretty good job of it also. The white asparagus (aspargo
    bianco) is also popular in Italy. It goes for about 4 Euro per kilo.
    My favorite is to drizzle it with some tasty olive oil and balsamic
    vinegar, then sometimes lightly sprinkle it with some herbs and grated
    cheese. I prefer the green asparagus though when I use asparagus in
    risotto, frittate, or pasta primavera.

    Another Italian dish, which I'm not that big on, is to put a couple of
    fried eggs over buttered asparagus and then sprinkle it with cheese.
    That's called "alla bismark," like when an egg is broken on a pizza.
    Speaking of which, I once had pizza with asparagus as a topping, I
    didn't like it much.

    One time, I minced some up and used in ravioli. It was pretty good.
    I'll probably do that again.

    Also, let's not forget about violet asparagus...

    Ciccio

  15. Ciccio wrote on Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:00:31 -0700:

    ??>> The Germans have the
    ??>> right idea about what constitutes a serving of asparagus
    ??>> compared with the piddling amounts customary here.

    C> Italians do a pretty good job of it also. The white
    C> asparagus (aspargo bianco) is also popular in Italy. It goes

    C> Also, let's not forget about violet asparagus...

    I tried that once. It was more expensive than white and I
    couldn't detect any special taste tho' it looks interesting but
    perhaps that's just me :-)

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    E-mail, with obvious alterations:
    not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

  16. Veronique said:

    The white spears have less vitamin C then? After a quick google, a
    couple sites noted that white asparagus was less nutritious than
    green, but the only breakdowns I could find were for green. One site
    said that green asparagus was a good source of Vitamin C and folate
    and moderate amounts of vitamin A, E, potassium and small amounts of
    iron, while "white asparagus is less nutritious than green." I would
    imagine the vitamin A levels would be lower.

    I love green asparagus and having had white asparagus, I kinda don't
    seen the point in a blander, less nutrional version.

    Think of it like peeling an apple before eating it, or cutting the
    crusts off white bread before making a sandwich, pulp-free orange
    juice, iceberg lettuce instead of a spinach salad, or perhaps an egg
    white omelet?

    Karen

  17. jmcquown said:

    When it's ready it snaps at the right point all by itself 🙂

    This is just not true.

    It's one of those kitchen urban legends.

    Karen

  18. Jude said:

    well, with less chloryphyll, dos it make your pee stink less? more
    refined european thing, ya know, the queen don;t want her pee to stink.

    Sometimes white asparagus is better than green asparagus. For example,
    in a shrimp Louie, the white asparagus is nicer to eat and look at
    than the green counterpart.

    In Biryani, golden raisins are better than dark raisins. They don't
    look like little turds, they blend in color better and therefore taste
    better in the dish.

    It's not about being a snob. Otherwise, there would be no market for
    golden raisins or white asparagus.

    Karen

  19. Karen said:
    jmcquown said:

    When it's ready it snaps at the right point all by itself 🙂

    This is just not true.

    It's one of those kitchen urban legends.

    Karen

    Well it's worked fine for me for 30 years.

  20. jmcquown said:


    Karen said:
    jmcquown said:

    When it's ready it snaps at the right point all by itself 🙂

    This is just not true.

    It's one of those kitchen urban legends.

    Karen

    Well it's worked fine for me for 30 years.

    You've probably wasted about 1/3 to 1/2 of all
    of the asparagus you've ever gotten your mitts on.

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