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Where the heck do these washers go????

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  1. Hi all:

    Today I was removing the chainrings from my new Shimano Ultegra crankset, the FC-6500 model. It
    wasn't until I had the last chainring bolt off that I realized that very thin washers were dropping
    from the crankset as I removed the chainring nuts and bolts. Because I wasn't paying attention I'm
    not sure where these things go. It *looks* like they go under the head of the bolt, but none of the
    Shimano literature that came with the crankset or that I can find online shows these washers. Am I
    correct in placing these washers under the bolt head?

    TIA.

    Tom Young

  2. Tom Young said:

    Hi all:

    Today I was removing the chainrings from my new Shimano Ultegra crankset, the FC-6500 model. It
    wasn't until I had the last chainring bolt off that I realized that very thin washers were
    dropping from the crankset as I removed the chainring nuts and bolts. Because I wasn't paying
    attention I'm not sure where these things go. It *looks* like they go under the head of the bolt,
    but none of the Shimano literature that came with the crankset or that I can find online shows
    these washers. Am I correct in placing these washers under the bolt head?

    No, those are spacing adjustment washers, probably .1 mm thick. They go between either the spider
    arms and either the outer or middle chainring, to put them slightly farther apart.

    It doesn't matter whether they go inside or outside the spider, just so that all 5 of 'em are on the
    same size.

    Sheldon "Shims" Brown +-------------------------------------------+
    | Originality is undetected plagiarism. | --Dean W.R. Inge |
    +-------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone
    617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 harriscyclery.comharriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    captainbike.comcaptainbike.com sheldonbrown.comsheldonbrown.com

  3. Sheldon:

    Thanks for the info. Are these washers put there by Shimano to adjust for a too-thin spider? I know
    my old Ultegra crank *didn't* have these washers.

    I ask because I removed the chain rings from the new crank to put them on the old crank, and now I'm
    not sure if I should use the washers or leave them with the new crank.

    Thanks.

    Tom Young

    Sheldon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Young said:

    Hi all:

    Today I was removing the chainrings from my new Shimano Ultegra crankset, the FC-6500 model. It
    wasn't until I had the last chainring bolt off that I realized that very thin washers were
    dropping from the crankset as I removed the chainring nuts and bolts. Because I wasn't paying
    attention I'm not sure where these things go. It *looks* like they go under the head of the
    bolt, but none of the Shimano literature that came with the crankset or that I can find online
    shows these washers. Am I correct in placing these washers under the bolt head?

    No, those are spacing adjustment washers, probably .1 mm thick. They go between either the spider
    arms and either the outer or middle chainring, to put them slightly farther apart.

    It doesn't matter whether they go inside or outside the spider, just so that all 5 of 'em are on
    the same size.

    Sheldon "Shims" Brown +-------------------------------------------+
    | Originality is undetected plagiarism. | --Dean W.R. Inge |
    +-------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone
    617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 harriscyclery.comharriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    captainbike.comcaptainbike.com sheldonbrown.comsheldonbrown.com

  4. Tom-<< Today I was removing the chainrings from my new Shimano Ultegra

    Quoted message said:

    crankset, the FC-6500 model. It wasn't until I had the last chainring bolt off that I realized
    that very thin washers were dropping from the crankset as I removed the chainring nuts and bolts.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR>

    Under the small ring, between the small ring and the crank arms. Why some 6500 cranks have 'em and
    some don't is a mystery to me...

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  5. Peter:

    Thanks for the info. I posted a follow-up question to Sheldon Brown's reply to my original post
    asking if these washers compensated for too-thin mounting points on the spider. I removed the chain
    rings from the new crank as I was going to use them on my old Ultegra crank and I wasn't sure if the
    washers should follow the chainrings or remain behind with the new crank.

    I answered my own question by measuring the thickness of the chain ring mounting points on the old
    and new crank. The new crank's mounting points were thinner than the old crank's mounting points by
    about 9 thousands of an inch, just about exactly as thick as the washers. So now we both know what
    these washers are for!

    I'd say Shimano is doing a disservice to its customers by not mentioning this.

    Thanks again.

    Tom Young

    [email hidden] (Qui si parla Campagnolo) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Tom-<< Today I was removing the chainrings from my new Shimano Ultegra

    Quoted message said:

    crankset, the FC-6500 model. It wasn't until I had the last chainring bolt off that I realized
    that very thin washers were dropping from the crankset as I removed the chainring nuts and
    bolts. >><BR><BR>

    Under the small ring, between the small ring and the crank arms. Why some 6500 cranks have 'em and
    some don't is a mystery to me...

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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