What size frame does Lance ride?

[Tim Lines]

No, no, I'm not going to run out and buy the same size!

I was browsing on ebay (which I do WAY too much), and I saw:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3620086816&category=22681 Wherein the seller
suggests that maybe, just possibly, the Trek OCLV frame he's selling was once Lance Armstrong's.
Heck, he bought it from some guy in Austin and it was a team issued bike. It's a size 58. He's
5'10". Uh-uh. I don't think so. Could explain why Lance smashed his nut in the tour, though.

 

[Nick Burns]

"Tim Lines" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No, no, I'm not going to run out and buy the same size!
>
> I was browsing on ebay (which I do WAY too much), and I saw:
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3620086816&category=22681
> Wherein the seller suggests that maybe, just possibly, the Trek OCLV frame he's selling was once
> Lance Armstrong's. Heck, he bought it from some guy in Austin and it was a team issued bike. It's
> a size 58. He's 5'10". Uh-uh. I don't think so. Could explain why Lance smashed his nut in the
> tour, though.

That is correct and measured center to top. That would be about a 55 c-c.

 

[Mike Jacoubowsk]

Lance most definitely rides a 58cm; on more than one occasion, we've set up bikes for him for
commercials shot in our area (unfortunately, they don't come back autographed!).

Keep in mind OCLVs are considerably smaller, in terms of top-tube clearance, than most other bikes.
TREK measures frame size from the center of the bottom bracket all the way to the top of the seat
clamp, which extends above the top tube.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

"Nick Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Tim Lines" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > No, no, I'm not going to run out and buy the same size!
> >
> > I was browsing on ebay (which I do WAY too much), and I saw:
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3620086816&category=22681
> > Wherein the seller suggests that maybe, just possibly, the Trek OCLV frame he's selling was once
> > Lance Armstrong's. Heck, he bought it from some guy in Austin and it was a team issued bike.
> > It's a size 58. He's 5'10". Uh-uh. I don't think so. Could explain why Lance smashed his nut in
> > the tour, though.
>
>
> That is correct and measured center to top. That would be about a 55 c-c.

 

[Mack Mad]

"Tim Lines" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No, no, I'm not going to run out and buy the same size!
>
> I was browsing on ebay (which I do WAY too much), and I saw:
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3620086816&category=22681
> Wherein the seller suggests that maybe, just possibly, the Trek OCLV frame he's selling was once
> Lance Armstrong's. Heck, he bought it from some guy in Austin and it was a team issued bike. It's
> a size 58. He's 5'10". Uh-uh. I don't think so. Could explain why Lance smashed his nut in the
> tour, though.
>

Yes, most definitely. Has a 57cm top tube, fits vertically like a 56cm frame.

 

[Brian Phillips]

"Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:xNMWa.16961>
>
>
> Yes, most definitely. Has a 57cm top tube, fits vertically like a 56cm frame.

??? How many 56cm frames have a 57cm top tube??? None that I can think of, 'cept maybe a custom job
made for short-legged/long torso guys like me.

 

[Boyd Speerschne]

"Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in news:5YRWa.8996$IQ2.8927 @fe1.columbus.rr.com:

> "Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]>>
>> "Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> >
>> >
>> > Yes, most definitely. Has a 57cm top tube, fits vertically like a 56cm frame.
>>
>> ??? How many 56cm frames have a 57cm top tube??? None that I can think
> of,
>> 'cept maybe a custom job made for short-legged/long torso guys like me.
>
> Hmmm.....
>
> Look frames - Size 56cm has a 57cm top tube Klein Q-Pro Carbon - Size 56cm has a 57cm top tube
> Carrera Frames - Size 56cm has a 57cm top tube Ciocc Frames - Size 56cm has a 57cm top tube
>
> I know there are more than this, but these are the ones I can think of
off
> the top of my head.

My "56cm" Fuji Team is actually 52cm seat tube center-to-center with a 56cm top tube
center-to-center.

- Boyd S. another short-legged/log torso guy

 

[Mack Mad]

"Boyd Speerschneider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> @fe1.columbus.rr.com:
>
> > "Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]>>
> >> "Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes, most definitely. Has a 57cm top tube, fits vertically like a
56cm
> >> > frame.
> >>
> >> ??? How many 56cm frames have a 57cm top tube??? None that I can think
> > of,
> >> 'cept maybe a custom job made for short-legged/long torso guys like me.
> >
> > Hmmm.....
> >
> > Look frames - Size 56cm has a 57cm top tube Klein Q-Pro Carbon - Size 56cm has a 57cm top tube
> > Carrera Frames - Size 56cm has a 57cm top tube Ciocc Frames - Size 56cm has a 57cm top tube
> >
> > I know there are more than this, but these are the ones I can think of
> off
> > the top of my head.
>
> My "56cm" Fuji Team is actually 52cm seat tube center-to-center with a
56cm
> top tube center-to-center.
>
> - Boyd S. another short-legged/log torso guy

I hope you meant "long" - not many people call themselves "log torso"

 

[Nick Burns]

"Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > Yes, most definitely. Has a 57cm top tube, fits vertically like a 56cm frame.
>
> ??? How many 56cm frames have a 57cm top tube??? None that I can think
of,
> 'cept maybe a custom job made for short-legged/long torso guys like me.

Some of the early Lemond bike were OCLV. What they did to give the "Lemond fit" with a longer top
tube was to label them by using a c-c measurement. IF you do it that way, the frame will give a
longer top tube than many others. The funny thing is that it is the same frame. IIRC the 60 cm c-t
with a Trek badge was an exact equivalent to the Lemond OCLV models labeled 57 cm and boasting of
the "Lemond fit". Maybe Michael J. can confirm this?

 

[Todd Kuzma]

Brian Phillips wrote:
> "Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:xNMWa.16961>
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>>Yes, most definitely. Has a 57cm top tube, fits vertically like a 56cm frame.
>
> ??? How many 56cm frames have a 57cm top tube??? None that I can think of, 'cept maybe a custom
> job made for short-legged/long torso guys like me.

56 cm (c-t) Heron Road has a 57 cm top tube.

Todd Kuzma Heron Bicycles LaSalle, Il 815-223-1776 http://www.heronbicycles.com

 

[Roger Ramjet]

I have the reverse dimension. I have longer legs in proportion to my upper body. I ride a custom 55
Cm Serrota with a 54.5 top tube (I had it shorten from the standard 55.5 CM).

"Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:xNMWa.16961>
> >
> >
> > Yes, most definitely. Has a 57cm top tube, fits vertically like a 56cm frame.
>
> ??? How many 56cm frames have a 57cm top tube??? None that I can think
of,
> 'cept maybe a custom job made for short-legged/long torso guys like me.

 

[Mike Jacoubowsk]

> Some of the early Lemond bike were OCLV. What they did to give the "Lemond fit" with a longer top
> tube was to label them by using a c-c measurement.
IF
> you do it that way, the frame will give a longer top tube than many
others.
> The funny thing is that it is the same frame. IIRC the 60 cm c-t with a
Trek
> badge was an exact equivalent to the Lemond OCLV models labeled 57 cm and boasting of the "Lemond
> fit". Maybe Michael J. can confirm this?

That is correct. The amazing thing is how many customers insist that they were different!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

"Nick Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Brian Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mack Mad" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:xNMWa.16961>
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, most definitely. Has a 57cm top tube, fits vertically like a 56cm frame.
> >
> > ??? How many 56cm frames have a 57cm top tube??? None that I can think
> of,
> > 'cept maybe a custom job made for short-legged/long torso guys like me.
>
> Some of the early Lemond bike were OCLV. What they did to give the "Lemond fit" with a longer top
> tube was to label them by using a c-c measurement.
IF
> you do it that way, the frame will give a longer top tube than many
others.
> The funny thing is that it is the same frame. IIRC the 60 cm c-t with a
Trek
> badge was an exact equivalent to the Lemond OCLV models labeled 57 cm and boasting of the "Lemond
> fit". Maybe Michael J. can confirm this?

 

[James Calivar]

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Lance most definitely rides a 58cm; on more than one occasion, we've set
up
> bikes for him for commercials shot in our area (unfortunately, they don't come back autographed!).
>
> Keep in mind OCLVs are considerably smaller, in terms of top-tube
clearance,
> than most other bikes. TREK measures frame size from the center of the bottom bracket all the way
> to the top of the seat clamp, which extends
above
> the top tube.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

So what you're saying, then, is Lance really rides a 55cm frame...

 

[Mike Jacoubowsk]

> So what you're saying, then, is Lance really rides a 55cm frame...

Only if you think a center-to-center measurement is the way to measure a frame size. Personally, I
don't... with the differences in tube diameter, center-to-center isn't terribly relevant any more.
In my perfect world, all frames are measure from the center of the bottom bracket to the place where
the center of the seat tube intersects the top of the top tube, provided the top tube is parallel to
the ground.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

"James Calivar" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Lance most definitely rides a 58cm; on more than one occasion, we've set
> up
> > bikes for him for commercials shot in our area (unfortunately, they
don't
> > come back autographed!).
> >
> > Keep in mind OCLVs are considerably smaller, in terms of top-tube
> clearance,
> > than most other bikes. TREK measures frame size from the center of the bottom bracket all the
> > way to the top of the seat clamp, which extends
> above
> > the top tube.
> >
> > --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
> So what you're saying, then, is Lance really rides a 55cm frame...

 

[Corey Green]

"James Calivar" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Lance most definitely rides a 58cm; on more than one occasion, we've set
> up
> > bikes for him for commercials shot in our area (unfortunately, they don't come back
> > autographed!).
> >
> > Keep in mind OCLVs are considerably smaller, in terms of top-tube
> clearance,
> > than most other bikes. TREK measures frame size from the center of the bottom bracket all the
> > way to the top of the seat clamp, which extends
> above
> > the top tube.
> >
> > --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
> So what you're saying, then, is Lance really rides a 55cm frame...

In terms of STAND OVER HEIGHT. But with a 57cm top tube it rides like a larger bike. I am sure this
has been discussed before, but determining frame size based solely on the length of the seat tube
makes no sense. There are so many other factors that go into frame sizing. IMO the top tube has a
lot more to do with a frame sizing correctly than the seat tube. I can adjust the seat height
infinitely, but I have a limited number of ~5mm increments to adjust the bars distance from my hips.

So, if all you care about is standover height, sure it fits like a
55/56 cm bike.